Jump to content

Pomeroy Makes Us The Favorite

CMJ

By CMJ
in Mean Green Basketball

 Share

Recommended Posts

KoldBeer Newbie

KoldBeer

Posted
Posted

Despite the recent blowouts of really bad teams, this UNT team isn't deep enough to go too far. Someone knocks us out of the SBC tournament and no matter the season record we go nowhere for the post-season. Sorry, Tasty.

Not true. If we win regular season Sun Belt title we will get to go to the NIT postseason tournament.

KoldBeer Newbie

KoldBeer

Posted
Posted

Ok well I guess that is something...

I know NIT isn't the NCAA tournament, but it is post season play (which is hard to achieve in basketball unlike football). We could win a game or two in the NIT and might actually get to play on ESPN.

MeanGreenTexan Grand Master

MeanGreenTexan

Posted
Posted

Not true. If we win regular season Sun Belt title we will get to go to the NIT postseason tournament.

Exactly, with probably a 5 or 6 seed.

I know NIT isn't the NCAA tournament, but it is post season play (which is hard to achieve in basketball unlike football). We could win a game or two in the NIT and might actually get to play on ESPN.

You guys are talking like we've already lost... WHAT's WRONG WITH YOU?!?!

Maybe we need to chug on over to mamby-pamby land?? YOU JACKWAGONS!! :angry:

YES we're going to win the SBC Regular Season race, and we're also going to win the SBC Conference Tourney. That's a fact!

  • Upvote 1
Green P1 Enthusiast

Green P1

Posted
Posted

Despite the recent blowouts of really bad teams, this UNT team isn't deep enough to go too far. Someone knocks us out of the SBC tournament and no matter the season record we go nowhere for the post-season. Sorry, Tasty.

Debbie Downer.

TheTastyGreek Collaborator

TheTastyGreek

Posted
Posted

Despite the recent blowouts of really bad teams, this UNT team isn't deep enough to go too far. Someone knocks us out of the SBC tournament and no matter the season record we go nowhere for the post-season. Sorry, Tasty.

I love you.

Welcome back.

You are wrong.

Last year, we played the tournament with a 6 man rotation. Odufuwa/Tramiel/White/Thompson all played 30-39 minutes each night for three straight nights. Mangrum and Shorter split most of the rest of the minutes. The only person to play more than 5 minutes in any game even once was Cam Spencer. He played 8 minutes in the final against Troy. 16 minutes total in 3 games, and he was the biggest bench contributor by far. Nobody else played more than 10 TOTAL minutes in the entire tournament.

So, this year, with everyone in that rotation back but Tramiel and Mangrum, replacing the two of them with Kedrick Hogans and Dom Johnson... We're suddenly not deep enough to win? Even with 9 scholarship players at our disposal, we're deeper in terms of a tournament roster than we were last year.

I'm not saying we're a slam dunk to win the thing. But depth is the concern for the tournament? Didn't seem to be a problem last year. And in 2007, I think we went 7 deep with guys who played serious minutes.

If someone gets hurt, we're in trouble. But that would have been true last year, too. If everyone else is healthy, we're the toughest out in the tournament, even allowing for home court advantage to the Arkansas team.

  • Upvote 2
  • Downvote 1
TheTastyGreek Collaborator

TheTastyGreek

Posted
Posted (edited)

Nice well-thought out response. I guess I was mostly referring to depth hurting us in the NCAA tournament.

Then I referred to our chances of getting into the tourney if we lost in the SBC tourney. How I typed that all out was confusing and maybe have given the idea I think we can't/won't win the SBC tournament. 4am posting will do that. I think we will and should. (Can we? Will we?)

I think we very well might be the best team in the league, though the SHSU and MUTS losses have me a bit scared. I know we can't win them all, though really we should. With as little respect as the SBC is getting and has earned this year, it could lead to another 15 seed unless UNT really dominates the rest of the schedule. If we end up playing yet another of the big boys in the first round again, I think a lack of depth (especially at the guard position with the lossed there) can really hurt the chances of advancing if we get into foul trouble or someone turns an ankle.

But your point is well taken.

If we finish conference at 13-3 (very possible, even with the bummer loss to MTSU), I think we win the regular season title outright. That guarantees us the NIT bid, a worst-case record (round 1 SBC tourney loss) of 24-6 and a likely 6 seed in the NIT. Courtland is the NITologist, I leave further NIT analysis and speculation to him.

If we win the SBC tournament, that would give us a 27-5 record and a minimum 14 seed with a strong shot at a 13 in the NCAA tournament.

A strong finish and conference tournament win from us is almost this league's only shot at a spot above the 15 line. Depending on who wins it, we could see the SBC in the 16 line for the first time I know of. I'm pretty sure that no Sun Belt representative (or, as far as I know, current member of the Sun Belt) has ever been a 16 seed. If a non-bye team wins the tournament, or if a team like Denver or FIU wins 10-11 conference games, gets a 2 seed and wins the tournament, a 16 seed is VERY possible.

Edited by TheTastyGreek
  • Upvote 3
  • Downvote 1
CMJ Grand Master

CMJ

Posted
  • Author
Posted

The most important thing for us is to get a bye. I want to win the West and/or the regular season outright. But as long as we are in the top of our division we get a bye in Hot Springs. That is paramount.

Mean Green Matt Veteran

Mean Green Matt

Posted
Posted

If we finish conference at 13-3 (very possible, even with the bummer loss to MTSU), I think we win the regular season title outright. That guarantees us the NIT bid, a worst-case record (round 1 SBC tourney loss) of 24-6 and a likely 6 seed in the NIT. Courtland is the NITologist, I leave further NIT analysis and speculation to him.

If we win the SBC tournament, that would give us a 27-5 record and a minimum 14 seed with a strong shot at a 13 in the NCAA tournament.

A strong finish and conference tournament win from us is almost this league's only shot at a spot above the 15 line. Depending on who wins it, we could see the SBC in the 16 line for the first time I know of. I'm pretty sure that no Sun Belt representative (or, as far as I know, current member of the Sun Belt) has ever been a 16 seed. If a non-bye team wins the tournament, or if a team like Denver or FIU wins 10-11 conference games, gets a 2 seed and wins the tournament, a 16 seed is VERY possible.

This gave me some peace of mind. Thank you.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

WE BELIEVE IN THE MEAN GREEN!

News

Recruiting

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Please review our full Privacy Policy before using our site.