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1 hour ago, Cr1028 said:

It is fair to say Carl Pelini would’ve been a poor choice but DeRuyter has a couple of decent seasons at Fresno before it went south (just like Mac). 

Venebles is still hot a head coach to this day so this is all a moot point. Plenty of highly successful coordinators have been terrible head coaches so until he wins something as a head coach there is no argument to be made here. He was never coming here as a DC so why are we bringing his Clemson DC success up?

I believe the discussion was about hiring him as a head coach not as a DC

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55 minutes ago, All About UNT said:

I believe the discussion was about hiring him as a head coach not as a DC

That is my point. We have zero indication he would be or would have been a successful head coach.

See Will Muschamp.

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7 hours ago, TheReal_jayD said:

We in the SEC? 

No, Phil Bennett at SMU wasn’t either.

You can’t say with any degree of certainty that he would’ve been a good head coach until he has been a head coach somewhere 

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1 hour ago, Cr1028 said:

No, Phil Bennett at SMU wasn’t either.

You can’t say with any degree of certainty that he would’ve been a good head coach until he has been a head coach somewhere 

Agree to disagree. I'll talk Venables. You can take Deruyter and whoever else you recommended 

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1 hour ago, TheReal_jayD said:

Agree to disagree. I'll talk Venables. You can take Deruyter and whoever else you recommended 

Talk what about Venebles? He isn’t coming here as a DC or a HC. He never was so this is a meaningless discussion.

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49 minutes ago, TheReal_jayD said:

Take*

He isn't coming here now never said he was.

Hindsight is 20/20. No way to know what would’ve happened with any Coach but Mac.

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