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Obama's India visit to cost $200 Million per day?

That's $200 Million, not $2 Million.

Mumbai: The US would be spending a whopping $200 million (Rs. 900 crore approx) per day on President Barack Obama's visit to the city.

"The huge amount of around $200 million would be spent on security, stay and other aspects of the Presidential visit," a top official of the Maharashtra Government privy to the arrangements for the high-profile visit said.

Read more at: http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/us-to-spend-200-mn-a-day-on-obama-s-mumbai-visit-64106?cp

Yes I realize this could be one of those viral stories but it's out there, as hard as it is to believe. And I've seen "Brewster's Millions", but how in hell can you spend that much in one day for a visit?

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http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/us-to-spend-200-mn-a-day-on-obama-s-mumbai-visit-64106

How in hell can you spend that much in one day for a visit?

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India could be considered pretty hostile territory. I can see needing a lot of security for the visit. $200M seems a little high, but the daily number doesn't seem out of order. You have to pay the people, that you can trust, and have a place for them to stay.

How much does it cost per day for him to visit LA or NY? How much did it cost Bush to visit these types of places? There isn't anything to compare this to, so I don't think that judging him harshly on this is in order.

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Obama's India visit to cost $200 Million per day?

That's $200 Million, not $2 Million.

Yes I realize this could be one of those viral stories but it's out there, as hard as it is to believe. And I've seen "Brewster's Millions", but how in hell can you spend that much in one day for a visit?

Rick

I think it is vitally important that we know who the 3,000 people are that will be going on the trip. Why are so many leaving the country? Something doesn't make sense. Fourty five airplanes are needed?

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India could be considered pretty hostile territory. I can see needing a lot of security for the visit. $200M seems a little high, but the daily number doesn't seem out of order. You have to pay the people, that you can trust, and have a place for them to stay. There are probably a lot of people making the trip.

How much does it cost per day for him to visit LA or NY? How much did it cost Bush to visit these types of places? There isn't anything to compare this to, so I don't think that judging him harshly on this is in order.

I would assume a lot of this has to do with security seeing as how India is having terrorism problems in its own living room. It's not the same as traveling in the US for any number of reasons, but $200M is probably a bit steep. Then again, I don't know the itineraries of everyone on the trip, so I don't really have room to discuss costs.

But hey, if it can secure India as a military and economic partner, I guess it works out for the best. No reason to turn down someone who will press down on international terrorism while also being a trading partner based on their strategic location between the Far East and the rest of the world.

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I would assume a lot of this has to do with security seeing as how India is having terrorism problems in its own living room. It's not the same as traveling in the US for any number of reasons, but $200M is probably a bit steep. Might be time to look at the per diem on all of the people moving out for this.

These things happen when you don't read the article. I was looking at the title and seeing $2M per day. While still high, that is not the outrageous amount that $200M is. Probably a bit excessive.

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Ladies and Gentlemen, I plead with you to please turn off the political pundits and quit clicking on The Drudge Report and other websites of it's ilk. This story was spread so fast over the airwaves and internet that it makes me seriously concerned for America and our capacity to think for ourselves. You all know this story from an Indian Media outlet that based its information on a unidentified Indian source is not true. At the very least you are all reasonable enough people to question the article immediately and look for confirmation.

With that said here is an article from factcheck.org that shines some light on the original allegation.

FactCheck.org

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Ladies and Gentlemen, I plead with you to please turn off the political pundits and quit clicking on The Drudge Report and other websites of it's ilk. This story was spread so fast over the airwaves and internet that it makes me seriously concerned for America and our capacity to think for ourselves. You all know this story from an Indian Media outlet that based its information on a unidentified Indian source is not true. At the very least you are all reasonable enough people to question the article immediately and look for confirmation.

With that said here is an article from factcheck.org that shines some light on the original allegation.

FactCheck.org

Typical smug lib response. I posted this by first stating that this could be one of those viral stories, meaning, one of those crazy hair brained stories that may not be true. And it may not, I don't see how we as standard citizens could ever find out? But the point you easily mask over with your lib snide remark is that it COULD BE true, or possibly close to being true because your guy is a lib with a taste for wasteful spending himself and everyone knows it, and this may be part of why his fellow libs got their clocks cleaned two days ago. One simply needs to reference back to Michelle "Marie Antoinette" Obama's trip to spain for example, or their date night to New York and his needless campaign to Chicago and back

All facts that lead one to simply ask if the India trip is true or not? If you don't like the rest of the country asking where our money is being spent then considering the change of guard Tuesday you might want to close your ears because your not going to like what the near future is going to bring.

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Typical smug lib response. I posted this by first stating that this could be one of those viral stories, meaning, one of those crazy hair brained stories that may not be true. And it may not, I don't see how we as standard citizens could ever find out? But the point you easily mask over with your lib snide remark is that it COULD BE true, or possibly close to being true because your guy is a lib with a taste for wasteful spending himself and everyone knows it, and this may be part of why his fellow libs got their clocks cleaned two days ago. One simply needs to reference back to Michelle "Marie Antoinette" Obama's trip to spain for example, or their date night to New York and his needless campaign to Chicago and back

All facts that lead one to simply ask if the India trip is true or not? If you don't like the rest of the country asking where our money is being spent then considering the change of guard Tuesday you might want to close your ears because your not going to like what the near future is going to bring.

Rick

God, people hate your posts. I purposefully TRY to get -1's and I still end up with a sea of green numbers.

I am truly in awe.

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There isn't anything to compare this to, so I don't think that judging him harshly on this is in order.

It's a lot easier to blame the country's and world's problems on a colored President who has a Muslim father.

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dont forget about the 34 warships.........

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/34-warships-sent-from-us-for-obama-visit-64459

dont forget having the coconuts removed from the trees........

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/8109295/Coconuts-removed-from-trees-in-preparation-for-Barack-Obamas-India-trip.html

dont forget about the 40+ military aircraft going.

monkey catchers on the ready for Obama's visit:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/8102597/Monkey-catchers-on-guard-for-Barack-Obamas-India-visit.html

and dont forget being elitist:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,727235,00.html

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Don't forget common sense:

Snopes review of the story

I loathe the return of Fox News commentary to the Eagles Nest <_<

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So much so you feel the urge to post about it. If you don't want to read it..... Uh, don't read it.

But that's why I loathe it...no matter how hard I resist getting involved in the poo-fling-fest that is political discussion, eventually my will power gives and I lash out with a post or two (I try to keep them short and sarcastic though).

It's a character flaw that my therapist and I are working on.

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But that's why I loathe it...no matter how hard I resist getting involved in the poo-fling-fest that is political discussion, eventually my will power gives and I lash out with a post or two (I try to keep them short and sarcastic though).

It's a character flaw that my therapist and I are working on.

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I think you should consider a different therapist:

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FWIW, Snopes is not the reliable source it once was considered to be...

...but let's assume here for sake of argument that the number isn't $200M per day - the number of folks travelling with the President hasn't really been debated. What in God's name, no matter what the cost, do the taxpayers need to pay for 3000 people to go to India?

I don't like it when folks take a dumb decision and then make it seem less terrible by making it sound worse than it is. ...clearly that is what happened with this viral (which IS how Rick prefaced it) e-mail.

I don't really care the ACTUAL cost, it is the idea that the Feds feel they can ask the taxpayers to pay for 3000 people to go on a trip like this that I object to in the first place. I don't care if it costs 200 thousand or 200 million. It is OUR money, that WE ALL bust our ass to make and then hand over to the Government.

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FWIW, Snopes is not the reliable source it once was considered to be...

...but let's assume here for sake of argument that the number isn't $200M per day - the number of folks travelling with the President hasn't really been debated. What in God's name, no matter what the cost, do the taxpayers need to pay for 3000 people to go to India?

I don't like it when folks take a dumb decision and then make it seem less terrible by making it sound worse than it is. ...clearly that is what happened with this viral (which IS how Rick prefaced it) e-mail.

I don't really care the ACTUAL cost, it is the idea that the Feds feel they can ask the taxpayers to pay for 3000 people to go on a trip like this that I object to in the first place. I don't care if it costs 200 thousand or 200 million. It is OUR money, that WE ALL bust our ass to make and then hand over to the Government.

I am curious. What do you base this on? I am sure they have made a few mistakes along the way but I have seen nothing reported that would lead me to believe they are unreliable.

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Typical smug lib response.

Typical smug fucking idiot who believes whatever bullshit he is force-fed by Fox News response.

Do we know how much Bush's clandestine trips to Iraq cost the taxpayers? What about Dick Cheney's almost-weekly trips to Jackson Hole, WY in a VIP Boeing 757 over the course of eight years? (which, if nothing else, cost my company untold amounts of money in holding fuel, delays, and diversions). Did we care then? No. These are the generally accepted costs of the United States Presidency. Why do you suddenly care now? Seriously, when will you admit that the only reason you and your ilk suddenly give a shit about any government spending is because the President is black...and, we just can't have that, now can we?

This report originated in India, where 200,000,000 Indian Rupees comes out to about $4,523,761 US. Still a lot of money, but perhaps this was just a case of a conversion error that made things sound worse than they really are? Basic logic and rational thought would look at that possibility first. Or, maybe, the numbers are close, but that includes the monies spent by the media (which make up the majority of those 3,000 people), not the government. Of course, you can't throw the President you hate under the bus with such relatively small numbers...so, the $200 Million number flies with the extreme-right because it suits their purposes better. Facts be damned.

If you want to bitch and whine about spending, how about that $190 million per day we've been spending in Afghanistan? Or, perhaps the more than $1.1 trillion we've spent in Iraq & Afghanistan combined since 2001 (your share comes out to about $7,655...and, ya know, the burden we all must carry for sending thousands of young men to their deaths for reasons that are still unclear). At least those numbers come from a legitimate accounting source, as opposed to the calculations of a noted mathematical genius like Michelle Bachmann.

But, dammit, it was worth it, eh? I mean, we got bin Laden, afterall...right?

I hate that I have to write in the same hyperbolic undertones as you (I prefer rational, civilized discussion), however, I deduce that hyperbole is what you are conditioned by your leaders (political, religious, and otherwise) to understand best.

P.S. - Since it is the 5th of November, has anyone ever noticed the parallels between Lewis Prothero (in V for Vendetta) and Glenn Beck? Wow...disturbing.

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Typical smug fucking idiot who believes whatever bullshit he is force-fed by Fox News response.

Do we know how much Bush's clandestine trips to Iraq cost the taxpayers? What about Dick Cheney's almost-weekly trips to Jackson Hole, WY in a VIP Boeing 757 over the course of eight years? (which, if nothing else, cost my company untold amounts of money in holding fuel, delays, and diversions). Did we care then? No. These are the generally accepted costs of the United States Presidency. Why do you suddenly care now? Seriously, when will you admit that the only reason you and your ilk suddenly give a shit about any government spending is because the President is black...and, we just can't have that, now can we?

This report originated in India, where 200,000,000 Indian Rupees comes out to about $4,523,761 US. Still a lot of money, but perhaps this was just a case of a conversion error that made things sound worse than they really are? Basic logic and rational thought would look at that possibility first. Or, maybe, the numbers are close, but that includes the monies spent by the media (which make up the majority of those 3,000 people), not the government. Of course, you can't throw the President you hate under the bus with such relatively small numbers...so, the $200 Million number flies with the extreme-right because it suits their purposes better. Facts be damned.

If you want to bitch and whine about spending, how about that $190 million per day we've been spending in Afghanistan? Or, perhaps the more than $1.1 trillion we've spent in Iraq & Afghanistan combined since 2001 (your share comes out to about $7,655...and, ya know, the burden we all must carry for sending thousands of young men to their deaths for reasons that are still unclear). At least those numbers come from a legitimate accounting source, as opposed to the calculations of a noted mathematical genius like Michelle Bachmann.

But, dammit, it was worth it, eh? I mean, we got bin Laden, afterall...right?

I hate that I have to write in the same hyperbolic undertones as you (I prefer rational, civilized discussion), however, I deduce that hyperbole is what you are conditioned by your leaders (political, religious, and otherwise) to understand best.

P.S. - Since it is the 5th of November, has anyone ever noticed the parallels between Lewis Prothero (in V for Vendetta) and Glenn Beck? Wow...disturbing.

Do you think possibly someone can disapprove of the President because they don't agree with their social and fiscal policies? You can read your liberal MSNBC crap and get the same information, this is a waste of money for a trip. You were a douchebag at Gainesville that nobody liked and I can see things haven't changed a bit. I'd be a bitter SOB too if I couldn't graduate from college and had a shitty job. Go ahead and ban me mods, tired of the fucking bullshit on this board anyone.

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Typical smug fucking idiot who believes whatever bullshit he is force-fed by Fox News response.

Do we know how much Bush's clandestine trips to Iraq cost the taxpayers? What about Dick Cheney's almost-weekly trips to Jackson Hole, WY in a VIP Boeing 757 over the course of eight years? (which, if nothing else, cost my company untold amounts of money in holding fuel, delays, and diversions). Did we care then? No. These are the generally accepted costs of the United States Presidency. Why do you suddenly care now? Seriously, when will you admit that the only reason you and your ilk suddenly give a shit about any government spending is because the President is black...and, we just can't have that, now can we?

This report originated in India, where 200,000,000 Indian Rupees comes out to about $4,523,761 US. Still a lot of money, but perhaps this was just a case of a conversion error that made things sound worse than they really are? Basic logic and rational thought would look at that possibility first. Or, maybe, the numbers are close, but that includes the monies spent by the media (which make up the majority of those 3,000 people), not the government. Of course, you can't throw the President you hate under the bus with such relatively small numbers...so, the $200 Million number flies with the extreme-right because it suits their purposes better. Facts be damned.

If you want to bitch and whine about spending, how about that $190 million per day we've been spending in Afghanistan? Or, perhaps the more than $1.1 trillion we've spent in Iraq & Afghanistan combined since 2001 (your share comes out to about $7,655...and, ya know, the burden we all must carry for sending thousands of young men to their deaths for reasons that are still unclear). At least those numbers come from a legitimate accounting source, as opposed to the calculations of a noted mathematical genius like Michelle Bachmann.

But, dammit, it was worth it, eh? I mean, we got bin Laden, afterall...right?

I hate that I have to write in the same hyperbolic undertones as you (I prefer rational, civilized discussion), however, I deduce that hyperbole is what you are conditioned by your leaders (political, religious, and otherwise) to understand best.

P.S. - Since it is the 5th of November, has anyone ever noticed the parallels between Lewis Prothero (in V for Vendetta) and Glenn Beck? Wow...disturbing.

LOL, so how much is the trip going to cost there drop out genius? Damn, you couldn't even make it at North Texas but you must know something the rest of us don't? So tell us, how much is the trip going to cost us? If it was $10 Million 12 to 15 years ago what is it in 2010? Of course they refuse to tell us. The truth is probably not far off from the original rumored price?

Rick

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