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Fascinating concept, but it takes two to tango. Will upper echelor programs cooperate by scheduling Sun Belt teams? Time will tell. One thing is for sure, the promotions people at the conference schools better start taking basketball more seriously.

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Fascinating concept, but it takes two to tango. Will upper echelor programs cooperate by scheduling Sun Belt teams? Time will tell. One thing is for sure, the promotions people at the conference schools better start taking basketball more seriously.

One thing for sure, getting "name" schools to come to the venue will definitely boost attendance. Whenever we get Big 12 folks to play at UNT, the attendance is always way, way up over normal. Of course, there are usually more of their fans than ours, but the attendance definitely does increase big time.

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One thing for sure, getting "name" schools to come to the venue will definitely boost attendance. Whenever we get Big 12 folks to play at UNT, the attendance is always way, way up over normal. Of course, there are usually more of their fans than ours, but the attendance definitely does increase big time.

I guess we'll find out when we play TTU whether this statement is true or not.

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One thing for sure, getting "name" schools to come to the venue will definitely boost attendance. Whenever we get Big 12 folks to play at UNT, the attendance is always way, way up over normal. Of course, there are usually more of their fans than ours, but the attendance definitely does increase big time.

Did you go to the last Big 12 opponent (Oklahoma State) home game a few years back????? I believe attendance was around 7,000.. with probably 80% of that in UNT's favor. I expect similar things for the Texas Tech game.

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Did you go to the last Big 12 opponent (Oklahoma State) home game a few years back????? I believe attendance was around 7,000.. with probably 80% of that in UNT's favor. I expect similar things for the Texas Tech game.

It was just under 6,800. Of that, I'd say about 4500-4800 were there to support North Texas.

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It was just under 6,800. Of that, I'd say about 4500-4800 were there to support North Texas.

I would imagine that Tech would attract a similar crowd. Let's hope with the recent success and confidence in our team, our fans will come out in larger numbers.

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RPI calculations can be very confusing. But for anyone wondering how even a modest uptick in opponent quality can drastically impact overall RPI for the conference and individual teams... A WKU fan posted a very illuminating chart on the Arkansas State forum.

There are three elements of a team's RPI score: Your win/loss record, the win/loss record of your opponents, and the win/loss record of your opponents' opponents. When the league as a whole plays just a slightly better overall caliber of opponents (not WINS more, just plays better opponents with the same results), the cumulative impact can be tremendous.

So, what if every team in the SBC played opponents with an average of one more win over the course of the year than the teams they played? Meaning (for example), UNO and UALR still go 6-22, but their opponents have an average of one more win?

Last year's Sun Belt, without anyone winning any more OOC games at all, would jump up from 21st to 17th in conference RPI.

As a model, the chart that WKUYG posted isn't perfect... Right off the top, every "extra" opponent win would have to come from somewhere, and that isn't factored in to the RPI of the rest of the NCAA. But as a general and simple illustration of the power of slightly improved schedule across the entire conference, it's brilliant and easy to understand even for a very casual fan with a very limited interest in RPI calculations.

What would it have meant for North Texas specifically? Our team RPI would have jumped from 104th to 80th. That would have given us a higher RPI than Morgan State, Ohio, UC-Santa Barbara, and Montana, tournament teams that finished with better a RPI than us in reality. We would have separated further from Houston, this time by 30 places instead of just 6.

Montana and Ohio were 14 seeds, and Houston was a 13 seed. With a higher RPI and a much improved conference RPI, it's very likely that we would have jumped up to a 14 seed, regional priority be damned.

Nobody has to win any more than they otherwise would/did. Just by playing opponents with the smallest possible incremental improvement of win/loss record, the collective impact would have lifted the conference tremendously.

A major initiative like the 150 rule could be HUGE in improving things for SBC schools with quality basketball teams.

Big hat tip to WKUYG for the chart.

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