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Don't you think there is a reason he got beat out at UNLV (by Bobby Hauck, who had a whopping 0 wins as an FBS coach, although an impressive career in FCS) and SDSU (by Brady Hoke, with a whopping 34-38 head coaching record at the time) in recent years for head coaching gigs? Don't get me wrong, he would be in my top 5, barely, but not my overall choice. Obviously there has to be something keeping him from getting another gig. If only we knew the whole story.

Sometimes it's just luck. Fran has a credible resume. I think schools are put off by what happened in Aggie Land but very little has gone right in College Station the last decade or so. Ok so he got beat out by other mediocre coaches...sometimes people making the hires have a weird ass mentality. Look at our own AD...the man hired a HS coach who only had a good record with one school in which has historically been a program that has won and yet our AD hired him for D1 football HC.

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feel free to join the banned roster here mr. troll. go back to the smuuu board.

yes because getting a realistic perspective on an issue that has plagued a university or university athletics program is much worse than just shouting to everyone to patch the bellows on the sunshine pump and get on the handle and pump harder....as if anyone has been buying any of it in the past

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Coach Fran is a lazy ass too. Must have gotten lucky with TCU. If you want a Franchione, get his son. He's done really good with Blinn College from what I hear. But then again, the transition may suck like it did with TD. No Aggie coaches. They've sucked in the recent past and we don't want their dregs.

It wasn't luck. He built the UNM program into a top-25 tier (with a lot of help from a Lobo named Urlacher) before he made his way to Firt Worth.

For nearly a decade, Fran was the man you wanted to build your program

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Don't you think there is a reason he got beat out at UNLV (by Bobby Hauck, who had a whopping 0 wins as an FBS coach, although an impressive career in FCS) and SDSU (by Brady Hoke, with a whopping 34-38 head coaching record at the time) in recent years for head coaching gigs? Don't get me wrong, he would be in my top 5, barely, but not my overall choice. Obviously there has to be something keeping him from getting another gig. If only we knew the whole story.

Seriously?

Bobby Hauck coached all over the west. Positional duties at UCLA, Colorado, Washington... Then he was the head coach at Montana for 7 years, and every single year they made the D-1AA playoffs. Three times in the national championship game, all losses in the final. Average final record for Montana during his tenure: 11-2. And Hauck was willing to take a 3 year contract, and he settled for a base salary of $350k.

So UNLV got a guy who has been all over their region, building recruiting ties, with an amazing track record at the 1-AA level, who was willing to take a contract that, even if he maxes out his incentives, will only pay $500k (the lowest in all of the MWC). Meanwhile, the last time Franchione coached anywhere west of Fort Worth was 13 years ago.

I don't blame them for making the decision they did, and I don't think it reflects poorly on Franchione.

As for Hoke, he took over a Ball State team that doesn't even have an Athletics Center or dedicated offices for assistant coaches. Hoke took them to 2 of the 5 bowl appearances in school history. SDSU hired him over Fran at a time when he had just led Ball State to a 12-0 record and a #12 ranking.

I don't know if there was a hotter prospect in the college coaching universe at the time when SDSU threw money at Hoke and lured him away from Ball State before the team even finished the season. I don't think that losing out on a job to Hoke in early December of 2008 reflects poorly on Franchione at all.

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Seriously?

Bobby Hauck coached all over the west. Positional duties at UCLA, Colorado, Washington... Then he was the head coach at Montana for 7 years, and every single year they made the D-1AA playoffs. Three times in the national championship game, all losses in the final. Average final record for Montana during his tenure: 11-2. And Hauck was willing to take a 3 year contract, and he settled for a base salary of $350k.

So UNLV got a guy who has been all over their region, building recruiting ties, with an amazing track record at the 1-AA level, who was willing to take a contract that, even if he maxes out his incentives, will only pay $500k (the lowest in all of the MWC). Meanwhile, the last time Franchione coached anywhere west of Fort Worth was 13 years ago.

I don't blame them for making the decision they did, and I don't think it reflects poorly on Franchione.

As for Hoke, he took over a Ball State team that doesn't even have an Athletics Center or dedicated offices for assistant coaches. Hoke took them to 2 of the 5 bowl appearances in school history. SDSU hired him over Fran at a time when he had just led Ball State to a 12-0 record and a #12 ranking.

I don't know if there was a hotter prospect in the college coaching universe at the time when SDSU threw money at Hoke and lured him away from Ball State before the team even finished the season. I don't think that losing out on a job to Hoke in early December of 2008 reflects poorly on Franchione at all.

This.

If we could somehow get Fran to come here, it would be huge. Don't let the Aggie thing fool you. He wasn't a fit for that school at all, so the support waned. Plus, he was in the same division as Texas (won a title), OU (was in the title game twice), and Tech (who owned them under Leach). This isn't even counting a Top 25 team in OSU or the years that Mizzou and Kansas had great teams. His MO is to rebuild teams from nothing. Even at Alabama, he took over a bad team and had them winning both years he was there. Trust me, the record that he has built up and the programs he has lleft behind, except A&M, have been pretty damn good. We could use the mastermind behind TCU's rise from the ashes here in Denton and the price shouldn't be too shocking since this is his last year on the Aggies' dime. He has gotten paid handsomely for three years while doing nothing.

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