Would Mike Leach Come Here?

Green P1 · September 12, 2010

Would Barry Switzer come here?

SilverEagle · September 12, 2010

Would Barry Switzer come here?

...and do what? Have affairs with some of the wives of the assistant coaches?

NT03 · September 12, 2010

Would Barry Switzer come here?

He said a few years ago he would

Green P1 · September 12, 2010

...and do what? Have affairs with some of the wives of the assistant coaches?

Exactly.

GreenMachine · September 12, 2010

...and do what? Have affairs with some of the wives of the assistant coaches?

if he brings winning football to NT, who cares?

Got5onIt · September 12, 2010

I'm all for Leach but I think a few BCS will come calling at years end.

VideoEagle · September 12, 2010

He said a few years ago he would

Really. I didn't realize we had that many assistants with cute wives. +1 for us.

Cr1028 · September 12, 2010

Since we are dreaming big maybe we can get Wade Phillips of Jason Garrett after they get fired. There is no way a high-level nationally recognized BCS conference coach is going to come and coach in the Sun Belt unless he is washed up like Schnellenburger or has run a great program into the ground like Larry Coker or Guy Morriss(great program used loosely here). Maybe we can pick up Kevin Steele or Francione?

Edited September 12, 2010 by Cr1028

Travis · September 12, 2010

if he brings winning football to NT, who cares?

I hope there is not a single bit of seriousness to your post. I want a guy who can win... but do it the right way... and with character.

I don't need some sorry dude to come in here and be that kind of example.

Winning isn't everything. You have to win the right way!

GreenMachine · September 12, 2010

I hope there is not a single bit of seriousness to your post. I want a guy who can win... but do it the right way... and with character.

I don't need some sorry dude to come in here and be that kind of example.

Winning isn't everything. You have to win the right way!

I was dead serious. Banging asst coaches wifes won't get us on NCAA probation and if its not him, it will be someone else. I don't care, I want to win.

AndersonUNT · September 12, 2010

someone needs to be chirping in RV's ear WE WANT LEACH!! WE WANT LEACH!!

GMG!! :lol:

TodgeRodge · September 12, 2010

If Leach came here the hottest ticket in town would be going to UNT football games period. I have quite a few Tech friends/alums and they all still adore Leach and will do what it takes to fix that administration up there. One of my buddies pretty much said that Lubbock is a god awful place but when Leach got there...it became a place where many players wanted to come. Leach has single handedly sort of made Lubbock into a town that has grown significant over the last few years with new developments and stuff. Say what you wanna say about Leach but the man knows football and he gets the job done on all levels other than football.

you are dreaming if you believe any of that is even close to being true

lets cut through the BS

Leach will never come to UNT.....it does nothing for his ego, he has never built a program up from nothing.....and the first thing he would do is start talking like Dickey did and asking when more improvements are going to be made and when more money will be spent......then while that is being done (pretending that UNT would actually be able to do it like Tech was able to) Leach would be flying all over the USA on coach class tickets shopping for his next big job that would pay him more, feed his ego, and accept wins over D1-AA teams and losses to all the big teams in the conference and a few losses to horrible teams sprinkled in for good measure as well

there is nothing close to being similar to Tech and UNT.....while not spectacular by any means Spike Dykes at least had a winning record in the SWC and in the BIG 12 and Tech had done more than Spike did in the past (and more than Leach as well) and Tech consistently pulled in more fans and invested more in their program than UNT ever has....Leach took over a team that had been 6-5 the year before (not great but better than 5-32 or whatever Todge is) and the Big 12 was having some issues with their southern teams when Leach took over as well

Leach is a circus act coach and he has no real coaching abilities and that showed his last year when his players finally figured out he had reached the limits of his abilities and more importantly they figured out that he knew he had reached the limits of his abilities and that was why he was looking to jump ship to another place eager for a circus geek to come try and catch lightening in a bottle

only the dumbest of the dumb and the most immature Tech fans want anything at all to change with the administration....Leach did not help build their Basketball Facility the administration did, Leach did not help build the west side of their stadium it was already planned and mostly funded when Leach arrived, Leach did not get the money for the SBC/ATT naming the administration did

Leach does not do fund raising, leach barely does coaches shows, leach makes a point to ignore fans and alumni supporters which is why Tuberville was able to raise more money in the time period BEFORE his first game ever at Tech than Leach did in his entire 10 years there.....he upgraded the practice turf, upgraded the weight room, and upgraded some of the other trophy facilities as well.....all buy doing what Leach would never do which is picking up the phone and asking

Tech sold more season tickets than ever THIS YEAR after Leach was fired and at higher prices than anytime in the past.....the athletic foundation is at a record for donations already, and their season ticket sales were higher than the total capacity of the new stadium at UNT

as for the university administration.....Tech is at record enrollments for the last few years, with higher incoming freshman metrics to boot so they have not just opened the flood gates for anyone to come be a student

4 out of 5 years Hance has been at Tech he has raised over 100 million in donations (this had nothing to do with leach period) and he has helped recruit more top faculty (and even a few groups of faculty) than at any time in the past

if anyone is "hanging out with friends that want a change in administration at Tech" then you are hanging out with a drunken, foolish, child like, immature, moron that will never have the money or the clout to change anything at Texas Tech ever and in a few years they will be remembered as "the idiots" of the group and they will be roundly mocked for their stupidity and ignorance in thinking that mush mouthed pirate had much to do with anything at Tech or Lubbock other than beating some teams he should have beat, once in a blue moon beating a really good team, and going to the spare.org bowl

what changed Lubbock probably the most dramatically was the destruction and rebuilding of north overton (the Tech ghetto) which would be similar to cement city at UNT......leach had ZERO to do with this and it would have been done even if Tech was going 5-32 in football for the last few years......the Overton Project was done by Delbert McDougal that is not working with Irving for parts of their Heritage District and with Arlington and UTA on parts of their city around UTA.....leach had zero to do with or ti influence this and it was the most dramatic thing to happen to Lubbock in several decades

another thing that helped was the transformation of Reese Air force base which McDougal also helped with and it has been still to this day the most successful transformation of a former air force base in the USA.....it was well underway before leach even dreamed of coaching in Lubbock

leach was only able to stick around in Lubbock so long because of those drunken, childish, idiots that hang their hats on putting 70 points on sisters of the poor and hang their hats on 7 and 8 win seasons and consecutive fruit bowls and .com bowls.......everyone else has figured out the reality that none of that means anything to anyone when you are paying top 10 money to a coach that recruits poorly, job shops every year instead of recruiting or preparing for his biggest bowl game ever, never makes a BCS game, and never sniffs winning the 12 team conference once in 10 years

am sure your same group of friends that wants the "administration" out at Tech was also bragging about how after 10 years of leach they still had to ride the coattails of UT to get into another conference because every other conference out there does not count the spare.web bowl and a string of seasons of beating up D1-AA teams and dropping other games to decent or even horrible teams much less the good teams you played as "accomplishments".......they count that as just another team going through the motions

yet through all of that tech has grown as a university and Lubbock has grown as a city and Tech has redone or built new nearly every athletic venue on campus.....all without the help of leach or leaches string of ho hum seasons supported by people that have the point of view of last week and the vision of the future through the bottom of a beer bottle

could leach improve unt.....perhaps in wins and losses on the field, but I am not even convinced of that.....and he would do nothing to improve other facilities (although he would demand they be improved and pout if they were not)....he would improve the amount of money you spend on coaches because if he did not he would be on the next plane to the coaches conference to sit in a bar for two hours with the AD of some bigger program and "not talk about football or their coaching vacancy".....instead of recruiting, raising funds, or meeting with fans or alumni much less working on defense or special teams or beating the top teams in the conference

leach would be at best a 2 or 3 year flash in the pan at UNT and at worse he would just be the next highly over paid Todge

take the risk if you want to, but if you think Leach will build long term support, improve facilities through his efforts, improve Denton in any way shape or form, or do anything other than promote mike leach while he is there you are dreaming and listening to idiots that have the life experience of a nat and the brains and vision of a flea which is what those that wish for leach to still be at Tech or for any administrator to leave or be let go at Tech possess

TodgeRodge · September 12, 2010

Mike Leach is the equivalent of a Rivals 5 star skill player as it relates to coaching. HOWEVER, in this case it is perfectly acceptable to pay this player whatever we want, throw perks at him like free BMWs, Free 6,000 ft. condos, etc.. Think about that for a minute. And then thing about the additional revenue from the student athletic fees. Then put your elongated index finger to your temple and say aloud "HMMMMM"....

leach is equivalent to a 5 star player that still drives around in his car with 4 pounds of weed and his gat while playing and getting a free ride at a top program......if you want him have at it

TheTastyGreek · September 12, 2010

Mike Leach would get us to Tier 1 and bring the Law School back under the UNT-Denton banner.

Discuss.

Eagle1855 · September 12, 2010

you are dreaming if you believe any of that is even close to being true

lets cut through the BS

Leach will never come to UNT.....it does nothing for his ego, he has never built a program up from nothing.....and the first thing he would do is start talking like Dickey did and asking when more improvements are going to be made and when more money will be spent......then while that is being done (pretending that UNT would actually be able to do it like Tech was able to) Leach would be flying all over the USA on coach class tickets shopping for his next big job that would pay him more, feed his ego, and accept wins over D1-AA teams and losses to all the big teams in the conference and a few losses to horrible teams sprinkled in for good measure as well

there is nothing close to being similar to Tech and UNT.....while not spectacular by any means Spike Dykes at least had a winning record in the SWC and in the BIG 12 and Tech had done more than Spike did in the past (and more than Leach as well) and Tech consistently pulled in more fans and invested more in their program than UNT ever has....Leach took over a team that had been 6-5 the year before (not great but better than 5-32 or whatever Todge is) and the Big 12 was having some issues with their southern teams when Leach took over as well

Leach is a circus act coach and he has no real coaching abilities and that showed his last year when his players finally figured out he had reached the limits of his abilities and more importantly they figured out that he knew he had reached the limits of his abilities and that was why he was looking to jump ship to another place eager for a circus geek to come try and catch lightening in a bottle

only the dumbest of the dumb and the most immature Tech fans want anything at all to change with the administration....Leach did not help build their Basketball Facility the administration did, Leach did not help build the west side of their stadium it was already planned and mostly funded when Leach arrived, Leach did not get the money for the SBC/ATT naming the administration did

Leach does not do fund raising, leach barely does coaches shows, leach makes a point to ignore fans and alumni supporters which is why Tuberville was able to raise more money in the time period BEFORE his first game ever at Tech than Leach did in his entire 10 years there.....he upgraded the practice turf, upgraded the weight room, and upgraded some of the other trophy facilities as well.....all buy doing what Leach would never do which is picking up the phone and asking

Tech sold more season tickets than ever THIS YEAR after Leach was fired and at higher prices than anytime in the past.....the athletic foundation is at a record for donations already, and their season ticket sales were higher than the total capacity of the new stadium at UNT

as for the university administration.....Tech is at record enrollments for the last few years, with higher incoming freshman metrics to boot so they have not just opened the flood gates for anyone to come be a student

4 out of 5 years Hance has been at Tech he has raised over 100 million in donations (this had nothing to do with leach period) and he has helped recruit more top faculty (and even a few groups of faculty) than at any time in the past

if anyone is "hanging out with friends that want a change in administration at Tech" then you are hanging out with a drunken, foolish, child like, immature, moron that will never have the money or the clout to change anything at Texas Tech ever and in a few years they will be remembered as "the idiots" of the group and they will be roundly mocked for their stupidity and ignorance in thinking that mush mouthed pirate had much to do with anything at Tech or Lubbock other than beating some teams he should have beat, once in a blue moon beating a really good team, and going to the spare.org bowl

what changed Lubbock probably the most dramatically was the destruction and rebuilding of north overton (the Tech ghetto) which would be similar to cement city at UNT......leach had ZERO to do with this and it would have been done even if Tech was going 5-32 in football for the last few years......the Overton Project was done by Delbert McDougal that is not working with Irving for parts of their Heritage District and with Arlington and UTA on parts of their city around UTA.....leach had zero to do with or ti influence this and it was the most dramatic thing to happen to Lubbock in several decades

another thing that helped was the transformation of Reese Air force base which McDougal also helped with and it has been still to this day the most successful transformation of a former air force base in the USA.....it was well underway before leach even dreamed of coaching in Lubbock

leach was only able to stick around in Lubbock so long because of those drunken, childish, idiots that hang their hats on putting 70 points on sisters of the poor and hang their hats on 7 and 8 win seasons and consecutive fruit bowls and .com bowls.......everyone else has figured out the reality that none of that means anything to anyone when you are paying top 10 money to a coach that recruits poorly, job shops every year instead of recruiting or preparing for his biggest bowl game ever, never makes a BCS game, and never sniffs winning the 12 team conference once in 10 years

am sure your same group of friends that wants the "administration" out at Tech was also bragging about how after 10 years of leach they still had to ride the coattails of UT to get into another conference because every other conference out there does not count the spare.web bowl and a string of seasons of beating up D1-AA teams and dropping other games to decent or even horrible teams much less the good teams you played as "accomplishments".......they count that as just another team going through the motions

yet through all of that tech has grown as a university and Lubbock has grown as a city and Tech has redone or built new nearly every athletic venue on campus.....all without the help of leach or leaches string of ho hum seasons supported by people that have the point of view of last week and the vision of the future through the bottom of a beer bottle

could leach improve unt.....perhaps in wins and losses on the field, but I am not even convinced of that.....and he would do nothing to improve other facilities (although he would demand they be improved and pout if they were not)....he would improve the amount of money you spend on coaches because if he did not he would be on the next plane to the coaches conference to sit in a bar for two hours with the AD of some bigger program and "not talk about football or their coaching vacancy".....instead of recruiting, raising funds, or meeting with fans or alumni much less working on defense or special teams or beating the top teams in the conference

leach would be at best a 2 or 3 year flash in the pan at UNT and at worse he would just be the next highly over paid Todge

take the risk if you want to, but if you think Leach will build long term support, improve facilities through his efforts, improve Denton in any way shape or form, or do anything other than promote mike leach while he is there you are dreaming and listening to idiots that have the life experience of a nat and the brains and vision of a flea which is what those that wish for leach to still be at Tech or for any administrator to leave or be let go at Tech possess

So you're opposed to Mike Leach coming to UNT?

TodgeRodge · September 12, 2010

I think that if Mike Leach had "lock people in a shed" written into his contract, there would be a LINE of people (me at the front) volunteering for prisoner duty to keep him happy and around to coach this team.

actually he would not sign such a document.....which is why he is no longer coaching anywhere

leach will come in, act like a child, make a lot of demands, and then at the end find something to be unhappy about and a way to drive a wedge between him and the university and the administration while crying to the public about it

while what leach did to adam james was in itself not that huge of a deal the things HE SAID in the process and more importantly his refusal to see or understand the massive legal liabilities he opened Tech up to during the process and most importantly (and why he was fired) he refused to acknowledge those liabilities and sign off on a document that Texas Tech HAD TO HAVE PERIOD that dealt with the FUTURE treatment of injured players and their medical care......his refusal to acknowledge or agree to that change IN WRITING was the kind of legal liability that only a moron or a moron administration would accept at a public university and because of that he was shown the door

again if you want an ego filled bag of beating D1-AA teams and losing to top programs and some horrible teams along the way....all at a HUGE price tag and zero loyalty....get leach.....if not get anyone else

TheTastyGreek · September 12, 2010

actually he would not sign such a document.....which is why he is no longer coaching anywhere

leach will come in, act like a child, make a lot of demands, and then at the end find something to be unhappy about and a way to drive a wedge between him and the university and the administration while crying to the public about it

while what leach did to adam james was in itself not that huge of a deal the things HE SAID in the process and more importantly his refusal to see or understand the massive legal liabilities he opened Tech up to during the process and most importantly (and why he was fired) he refused to acknowledge those liabilities and sign off on a document that Texas Tech HAD TO HAVE PERIOD that dealt with the FUTURE treatment of injured players and their medical care......his refusal to acknowledge or agree to that change IN WRITING was the kind of legal liability that only a moron or a moron administration would accept at a public university and because of that he was shown the door

again if you want an ego filled bag of beating D1-AA teams and losing to top programs and some horrible teams along the way....all at a HUGE price tag and zero loyalty....get leach.....if not get anyone else

I gave you a specific topic (two, actually) to discuss. This wasn't it.

This is a warning. Next time I may have to use a -1. :ph34r:

UNT90 · September 12, 2010

you are dreaming if you believe any of that is even close to being true

lets cut through the BS

Leach will never come to UNT.....it does nothing for his ego, he has never built a program up from nothing.....and the first thing he would do is start talking like Dickey did and asking when more improvements are going to be made and when more money will be spent......then while that is being done (pretending that UNT would actually be able to do it like Tech was able to) Leach would be flying all over the USA on coach class tickets shopping for his next big job that would pay him more, feed his ego, and accept wins over D1-AA teams and losses to all the big teams in the conference and a few losses to horrible teams sprinkled in for good measure as well

there is nothing close to being similar to Tech and UNT.....while not spectacular by any means Spike Dykes at least had a winning record in the SWC and in the BIG 12 and Tech had done more than Spike did in the past (and more than Leach as well) and Tech consistently pulled in more fans and invested more in their program than UNT ever has....Leach took over a team that had been 6-5 the year before (not great but better than 5-32 or whatever Todge is) and the Big 12 was having some issues with their southern teams when Leach took over as well

Leach is a circus act coach and he has no real coaching abilities and that showed his last year when his players finally figured out he had reached the limits of his abilities and more importantly they figured out that he knew he had reached the limits of his abilities and that was why he was looking to jump ship to another place eager for a circus geek to come try and catch lightening in a bottle

only the dumbest of the dumb and the most immature Tech fans want anything at all to change with the administration....Leach did not help build their Basketball Facility the administration did, Leach did not help build the west side of their stadium it was already planned and mostly funded when Leach arrived, Leach did not get the money for the SBC/ATT naming the administration did

Leach does not do fund raising, leach barely does coaches shows, leach makes a point to ignore fans and alumni supporters which is why Tuberville was able to raise more money in the time period BEFORE his first game ever at Tech than Leach did in his entire 10 years there.....he upgraded the practice turf, upgraded the weight room, and upgraded some of the other trophy facilities as well.....all buy doing what Leach would never do which is picking up the phone and asking

Tech sold more season tickets than ever THIS YEAR after Leach was fired and at higher prices than anytime in the past.....the athletic foundation is at a record for donations already, and their season ticket sales were higher than the total capacity of the new stadium at UNT

as for the university administration.....Tech is at record enrollments for the last few years, with higher incoming freshman metrics to boot so they have not just opened the flood gates for anyone to come be a student

4 out of 5 years Hance has been at Tech he has raised over 100 million in donations (this had nothing to do with leach period) and he has helped recruit more top faculty (and even a few groups of faculty) than at any time in the past

if anyone is "hanging out with friends that want a change in administration at Tech" then you are hanging out with a drunken, foolish, child like, immature, moron that will never have the money or the clout to change anything at Texas Tech ever and in a few years they will be remembered as "the idiots" of the group and they will be roundly mocked for their stupidity and ignorance in thinking that mush mouthed pirate had much to do with anything at Tech or Lubbock other than beating some teams he should have beat, once in a blue moon beating a really good team, and going to the spare.org bowl

what changed Lubbock probably the most dramatically was the destruction and rebuilding of north overton (the Tech ghetto) which would be similar to cement city at UNT......leach had ZERO to do with this and it would have been done even if Tech was going 5-32 in football for the last few years......the Overton Project was done by Delbert McDougal that is not working with Irving for parts of their Heritage District and with Arlington and UTA on parts of their city around UTA.....leach had zero to do with or ti influence this and it was the most dramatic thing to happen to Lubbock in several decades

another thing that helped was the transformation of Reese Air force base which McDougal also helped with and it has been still to this day the most successful transformation of a former air force base in the USA.....it was well underway before leach even dreamed of coaching in Lubbock

leach was only able to stick around in Lubbock so long because of those drunken, childish, idiots that hang their hats on putting 70 points on sisters of the poor and hang their hats on 7 and 8 win seasons and consecutive fruit bowls and .com bowls.......everyone else has figured out the reality that none of that means anything to anyone when you are paying top 10 money to a coach that recruits poorly, job shops every year instead of recruiting or preparing for his biggest bowl game ever, never makes a BCS game, and never sniffs winning the 12 team conference once in 10 years

am sure your same group of friends that wants the "administration" out at Tech was also bragging about how after 10 years of leach they still had to ride the coattails of UT to get into another conference because every other conference out there does not count the spare.web bowl and a string of seasons of beating up D1-AA teams and dropping other games to decent or even horrible teams much less the good teams you played as "accomplishments".......they count that as just another team going through the motions

yet through all of that tech has grown as a university and Lubbock has grown as a city and Tech has redone or built new nearly every athletic venue on campus.....all without the help of leach or leaches string of ho hum seasons supported by people that have the point of view of last week and the vision of the future through the bottom of a beer bottle

could leach improve unt.....perhaps in wins and losses on the field, but I am not even convinced of that.....and he would do nothing to improve other facilities (although he would demand they be improved and pout if they were not)....he would improve the amount of money you spend on coaches because if he did not he would be on the next plane to the coaches conference to sit in a bar for two hours with the AD of some bigger program and "not talk about football or their coaching vacancy".....instead of recruiting, raising funds, or meeting with fans or alumni much less working on defense or special teams or beating the top teams in the conference

leach would be at best a 2 or 3 year flash in the pan at UNT and at worse he would just be the next highly over paid Todge

take the risk if you want to, but if you think Leach will build long term support, improve facilities through his efforts, improve Denton in any way shape or form, or do anything other than promote mike leach while he is there you are dreaming and listening to idiots that have the life experience of a nat and the brains and vision of a flea which is what those that wish for leach to still be at Tech or for any administrator to leave or be let go at Tech possess

leach is equivalent to a 5 star player that still drives around in his car with 4 pounds of weed and his gat while playing and getting a free ride at a top program......if you want him have at it

These posts, by this poster, have made me absolutely sure that Mike Leach is the answer at UNT,

TodgeRodge · September 12, 2010

So you're opposed to Mike Leach coming to UNT?

honesty it really does not make a difference to me one way or the other

but the reality IMO is that he would never come to UNT so thinking he would is dreaming.....or I believe he would fail at UNT or have a very limited amount of success (by UNT and UNT ONLY standards) and then jump ship

I think he would fail and for that alone I would not mind seeing it because it would smash the few leach fans left on the planet over the head with their silver thunder 40oz and wake everyone up to the fact that a circus act that never changes is just an old tired circus that only little kids want to see until they have seen it once or twice or until they have grown up

then it is the same old BS from the same old BSer

Green P1 · September 12, 2010

honesty it really does not make a difference to me one way or the other

but the reality IMO is that he would never come to UNT so thinking he would is dreaming.....or I believe he would fail at UNT or have a very limited amount of success (by UNT and UNT ONLY standards) and then jump ship

I think he would fail and for that alone I would not mind seeing it because it would smash the few leach fans left on the planet over the head with their silver thunder 40oz and wake everyone up to the fact that a circus act that never changes is just an old tired circus that only little kids want to see until they have seen it once or twice or until they have grown up

then it is the same old BS from the same old BSer

So you're opposed to Mike Leach coming to UNT?

TodgeRodge · September 12, 2010

Mike Leach would get us to Tier 1 and bring the Law School back under the UNT-Denton banner.

Discuss.

I am not sure that the UNT law school will ever open up for UNTd or for UNT.....it is certainly not needed and the graduates from it will have next to no chance of finding a job in the legal profession or if they do it will be a job that can't even cover their student loans if they have them

as for "tier 1" mike will do ZERO to help UNT grow their endowment past 90 million much less get it close to the needed 400 million......the "students" that would be attracted to mike leach and a university where mike coaches would do next to nothing to raise the incoming freshman profile, and after mike left in a few years UNT would be exactly where they are now

and mike certainly would do nothing to get UNT above 17 million in in total or the 9 million in federal research that UNT produced in 2008 (with 35 million in federal and "restricted" research for 2 years in a row being the number one goal and the primary requirement before any other)(TxState dis 19 million in total research and 3.3 million in federal that same year for comparison (TxState had much higher state and private research dollar amounts))

Mike would not help get a National Research Library designation or a Phi Beta Kappa chapter, Mike would not help UNT restructure their PhD programs to better meet the "tier 1" goals" and mike would not attract faculty that are members of national academies

so no Mike would be zero help in meeting the state requirements for "tier 1"

I gave you a +1 for being funny though :lol:

Edited September 12, 2010 by TodgeRodge

TodgeRodge · September 12, 2010

So you're opposed to Mike Leach coming to UNT?

well if I wanted to see UNT fans suffer, leach fans have their lives shattered, and UNT go through more failure or have slight success and be dumped on then I would be for it

I would love to see leach fans have their lives shattered, but I figure UNT fans have suffered enough

so I am against leach for UNT

plus I know he would never come to UNT for a multitude of reasons so thinking he will is dreaming

I would much rather see leach go to a program where leach fans are sure he can win and watch him repeat the same 10 years of really doing nothing of significance while leach fans chant the mike leach mantra of "next year"

again UNT fans have been tortured with that mantra enough and leach fans would point to the decades of failure as yet another excuse for leach and still cling to his bag of nothing at Tech while hoping he gets another chance at a "good program"

Edited September 12, 2010 by TodgeRodge

UNT90 · September 12, 2010

well if I wanted to see UNT fans suffer, leach fans have their lives shattered, and UNT go through more failure or have slight success and be dumped on then I would be for it

I would love to see leach fans have their lives shattered, but I figure UNT fans have suffered enough

so I am against leach for UNT

I would love for Leach to come here, win 9 or 10 games a couple of times, and then drop a big old heaping steamer right on top of our heads.

Thoughts?

TodgeRodge · September 12, 2010

I would love for Leach to come here, win 9 or 10 games a couple of times, and then drop a big old heaping steamer right on top of our heads.

Thoughts?

leach won ten or more games one time in 10 years and it was the year when his contract was no longer being automatically renewed because Tech was tired of his contract demands with results that were not equal or better than his pay check

leach won 9 games three times....one year playing two D1-AA teams and FIU.....one year playing 13 regular season games and a bowl game.......and one year playing SMU, Rice, and UTEP along with Northwestern State.......so what on earth makes you think leach would do that in a couple of years at UNT before he left

more like leach coming in and going 4-8 and then 6-6 and taking a dump on UNT to go to some BCS program that went win less the year before

UNT90 · September 12, 2010

leach won ten or more games one time in 10 years and it was the year when his contract was no longer being automatically renewed because Tech was tired of his contract demands with results that were not equal or better than his pay check

leach won 9 games three times....one year playing two D1-AA teams and FIU.....one year playing 13 regular season games and a bowl game.......and one year playing SMU, Rice, and UTEP along with Northwestern State.......so what on earth makes you think leach would do that in a couple of years at UNT before he left

more like leach coming in and going 4-8 and then 6-6 and taking a dump on UNT to go to some BCS program that went win less the year before

Ya, cause a BSC program would be sooooooo interested in him if the best he could do was 6-6 against the Belt and OOC games like Rice, SMU, and Army.

Oh, remind me, when was the last time we beat Rice, SMU, or Army?

And yes, I think with the schedule UNT plays, Leach would easily win 8-10 games by his 3rd year.

Edited September 12, 2010 by UNT90