Nfl Targets 2012 For 18-Game Season

[NT80]

The proposal is for 20 total games: 2 preseason, 18 regular season. Owners are for it, players are thinking about it...fear more injuries, shorter careers, want more $$. I think it's a good idea, too many meaningless preseason games now.

Would colleges ever adopt a preseason game or formal scrimmage against another opponent?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Goodell-says-extended-regular-season-tied-to-new-labor-agreement-082510

[THOR]

i think it's stupid and greedy on the owners part. if they were concerned about the health of their players, they would just cut a couple of preseason games and keep the normal 16 game season. there is NO reason to increase the number of games in the season, but plenty of reasons to cut the games in the preseason.

[Green P1]

Eff the record books.... again.

[NT03]

i think it's stupid and greedy on the owners part. if they were concerned about the health of their players, they would just cut a couple of preseason games and keep the normal 16 game season. there is NO reason to increase the number of games in the season, but plenty of reasons to cut the games in the preseason.

I think this is the 1st time I've ever agreed with you;)

[THOR]

I think this is the 1st time I've ever agreed with you;)

ahhhh shiat....it is getting cooler outside...hell better not be freezing over!

[forevereagle]

i think it's stupid and greedy on the owners part. if they were concerned about the health of their players, they would just cut a couple of preseason games and keep the normal 16 game season. there is NO reason to increase the number of games in the season, but plenty of reasons to cut the games in the preseason.

How is the current format not more greedy? In order to buy season tickets you have to purchase tickets to two games that you don't want to see. At least this way they are giving you more meaningful football. There is NO way they are going to drop a preseason game. The revenue generated is too great for the teams to just dismiss it. Not saying that I like a 4 game preseason, but if you are going to play the same number of games, why not make more of them count?

[Green Mean]

What is wrong with the owners being greedy? Welcome to the world of business. It's all about the money and there is nothing wrong with that. The players are just as greedy if not more. They want a piece of the pie as well and they will get it.

[THOR]

i understand both players and owners are greedy, it's the nature of the business. i just don't see any point to playing two more regular season games just because they are getting rid of two preseason games.

i don't see having to buy preseason games in order to have season tickets as a big deal or greedy. it's just like having to buy a seat license or make a donation. you get things you may or may not care about. season tickets have always come with a stipulation.

[jdennis82]

Would colleges ever adopt a preseason game or formal scrimmage against another opponent?

do they not already?

[KRAM1]

Greedy???? That's laughable on the face of it. You are talking about professional sports, the epicenter of greediness. I thought I read recently that the players get 60% of the revenue as it is and they complain about the "greedy" owners, and the "greedy" owners complain about the players not being willing to give more and so it goes while the fans keeping buying overpriced tickets, paying outlandish parking fees and concession prices, and are even willing to shell out for seat licenses just to have the right to buy the overpriced tickets. That's funny stuff right there. When a career back-up like Sam Hurd can make $1.8million a year sitting on the bench, well, I don't think either side has any room to call the other "greedy". Too funny. This is business, let the games begin. The best seat in the house in pro football soon just might be the one after the season when the collective bargaining agreement is being re-negotiated. I am looking for a lock-out by the owners for the 2011 season. What a shame that would be, but never underestimate the stupidity of two parties at the bargaining table when one side is represented by a union and the other is a bunch of rich guys who have a very expensive toy on their hands.

Get your front row seats now. Greedy...that's really funny...guys making close to $10 million a year are boycotting training camp because they think they are underpaid and owners are giving unproven rookies $18million cash bonuses just to sign and then HOPE they can play in the NFL.

The sad part is that the fans think all this is serious stuff. To paraphrase Shakespeare...the world is a circus and we are all clowns! Bring on the clowns. It's the NFL folks and unless you make your living somehow related to the NFL, it's just entertainment plain and simple.

I do love that entertainment, however...but not nearly as much as college ball.

GO MEAN GREEN! OK, Go COWBOYS TOO!

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

Bad idea jeans.

[Green Mean]

Greedy???? That's laughable on the face of it. You are talking about professional sports, the epicenter of greediness. I thought I read recently that the players get 60% of the revenue as it is and they complain about the "greedy" owners, and the "greedy" owners complain about the players not being willing to give more and so it goes while the fans keeping buying overpriced tickets, paying outlandish parking fees and concession prices, and are even willing to shell out for seat licenses just to have the right to buy the overpriced tickets. That's funny stuff right there. When a career back-up like Sam Hurd can make $1.8million a year sitting on the bench, well, I don't think either side has any room to call the other "greedy". Too funny. This is business, let the games begin. The best seat in the house in pro football soon just might be the one after the season when the collective bargaining agreement is being re-negotiated. I am looking for a lock-out by the owners for the 2011 season. What a shame that would be, but never underestimate the stupidity of two parties at the bargaining table when one side is represented by a union and the other is a bunch of rich guys who have a very expensive toy on their hands.

Get your front row seats now. Greedy...that's really funny...guys making close to $10 million a year are boycotting training camp because they think they are underpaid and owners are giving unproven rookies $18million cash bonuses just to sign and then HOPE they can play in the NFL.

The sad part is that the fans think all this is serious stuff. To paraphrase Shakespeare...the world is a circus and we are all clowns! Bring on the clowns. It's the NFL folks and unless you make your living somehow related to the NFL, it's just entertainment plain and simple.

I do love that entertainment, however...but not nearly as much as college ball.

GO MEAN GREEN! OK, Go COWBOYS TOO!

Kram, you are making it sound like college athletics is a charity. I laugh when people try to compare everyday life to pro athletes or famous people. You just can't do that because the nature of the business is different. Both sides are greedy and its understandable. Tons of people in real day life that switches job on a bi annual basis because they have an opportunity to make maybe a few grand more a year...why isn't that called being greedy?

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

You say potatoe, I say potahtoe...you call it greed, I call it government bailed-out capitalism.

[KRAM1]

Kram, you are making it sound like college athletics is a charity. I laugh when people try to compare everyday life to pro athletes or famous people. You just can't do that because the nature of the business is different. Both sides are greedy and its understandable. Tons of people in real day life that switches job on a bi annual basis because they have an opportunity to make maybe a few grand more a year...why isn't that called being greedy?

Just musing about the fact that anyone in the pros would call anyone else "greedy". Not comparing it to college ball, not trying to say anything about any other occupation or field....just laughing over the fact that the word "greed" is even used to describe pro athletes and owners these days. I have thought that was a "given" for years. I don't begrudge them for getting every red cent they can as it is private enterprise and people can either pay or not pay as they wish...no government mandate in this area (YET!), I just think the folks that "pay" them through buying all that overpriced professional gear, tickets, parking, concessions are simply enablers for all this craziness...that's all.

College ball and the costs and salaries involved? Well, that a different discussion for a different thread.

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

Actually, since only a dozen or so athletic department broke even last year, I'd say this isn't a case of pure capitalism. I'd like to see how many raided school funds )gleaned from tuitions, donations, and tax-payer funded grants) to stay afloat.