Non-White Helmets This Year?

[eppy4life]

I've never seen an action shot that only includes helmets, and if we have someone drafted high enough that they need to place our helmet on their desk then I would hope they've mentioned our name once or twice.

I'm sadly referring to many highlights of players on other teams. Ingram had a couple highlight packages that included a few plays from our game against Alabama last season. With the camera primarily focused on him all you really saw from us was our helmets.

Seeing that, I understand how having North Texas or UNT on the helmet would be better than the SOW.

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

There are many instances where our helmets are seen and nothing else. Watch NFL draft coverage. We are usually on highlights (or lowlights) and all that's seen of us is our helmets.

Yes. It was very confusing in 2010 when Sam Bradford, Nadamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Trent Williams, Eric Berry, and Russell Okung were drafted.

Bradford, McCoy, and Williams' helmets had an interlocking OU on them. Hardly any knew this meant that they played for Oklahoma.

Suh's helmet just had an ordinary N on it. No one knew it meant that he played for Nebraska.

Berry's helmet had a big T on it. Half of the country thought he went to Texas, but really he played at Tennessee.

Okung's helmet had a weirdly formed OSU on the side. As a result, a third of the country thought he went to Oregon State, while another third thought he played at Ohio State. Only a third of the people really knew that he went to Oklahoma State.

There was no clarity until Joe Haden was taken with the 7th pick. His helmet said Gators. So, obviously, he went to Florida. There were no confusing letters or interlocking letter to confuse that one. Thankfully, Florida and U and/or F have been omitted completely from the helmet, so that everyone knows it means Florida, or the University of Florida.

The main problem, as our athletic department has astutely ascertained, is that so few people watch college football that hardly anyone knows which helmet is which. That's why our branded clothing and collectibles rake in millions for us as one of the top sellers in collegiate apparel - we have our full name on the helmet, so everyone knows who we are.

In the collegiate branding game, we are winners on par with Charlie Sheen for that reason.

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

Also, if our athletic department is stupid enough to go with UNT on the helemt, we'll be confused with the University of North Tennesse or the University of Northern Toledo.

We really are smart to just spell out NORTH TEXAS. It's been wildly popular to the point where the apparel bearing the logo is always sold out; so, we can't find it in hardly any store - even in the greater Denton area!

[eppy4life]

Yes. It was very confusing in 2010 when Sam Bradford, Nadamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Trent Williams, Eric Berry, and Russell Okung were drafted.

Bradford, McCoy, and Williams' helmets had an interlocking OU on them. Hardly any knew this meant that they played for Oklahoma.

Suh's helmet just had an ordinary N on it. No one knew it meant that he played for Nebraska.

Berry's helmet had a big T on it. Half of the country thought he went to Texas, but really he played at Tennessee.

Okung's helmet had a weirdly formed OSU on the side. As a result, a third of the country thought he went to Oregon State, while another third thought he played at Ohio State. Only a third of the people really knew that he went to Oklahoma State.

There was no clarity until Joe Haden was taken with the 7th pick. His helmet said Gators. So, obviously, he went to Florida. There were no confusing letters or interlocking letter to confuse that one. Thankfully, Florida and U and/or F have been omitted completely from the helmet, so that everyone knows it means Florida, or the University of Florida.

The main problem, as our athletic department has astutely ascertained, is that so few people watch college football that hardly anyone knows which helmet is which. That's why our branded clothing and collectibles rake in millions for us as one of the top sellers in collegiate apparel - we have our full name on the helmet, so everyone knows who we are.

In the collegiate branding game, we are winners on par with Charlie Sheen for that reason.

Can't compare our brand recognition to that of the schools mentioned.

Edited May 11, 2011 by eppy4life

[MDH]

I don't believe that the consultants/brand people we're hiring haven't said something about the helmet. What's the point paying $150k for SOW if it doesn't really appear on our sports teams uniforms? And what happened to branding UNT for the sports teams?

[ColoradoEagle]

Can't compare our brand recognition to that of the schools mentioned.

That's the point. If we forever act like a bottom dweller, we'll forever be a bottom dweller.

Here's a wake up call on how bad our branding/marketing is currently, of which the athletic department has to be given the majority of blame as they're the most visible:

Texas State-SM Hats (19)

North Texas Hats (7)

We have about 1/3 the hat selection of an FCS school. Lids I think is the most objective way to view how we're doing in the marketplace as they'll truly put up anything that sells. Winning would sell more, but it's not like TSUSM is tearing up the Southland.

Again, the AD is extremely ineffective in marketing, and has made no ground (or even lost some) since 2000. I'm hoping that the RFP the school put out will bring someone in that will offer a wake up call, especially to athletics.

Edited May 11, 2011 by ColoradoEagle

[UNTLifer]

I guess if the fear is that someone watching a game from home will not know who we are if we have the new eagle on our helmet makes sense. Thank goodness they are planning on putting North Texas in block letters at mid-field. Oh, wait...

[Grant.UNT]

I love the green helmet, but I would like the logo to be the same as our NT ALUMNI logo with the N centered on the T and the star over it. Just my two cents.please don't rate me negative if you don't agree. thanks

[eppy4life]

Look, I wish we had the SOW on the helmet. But a good example of the goal is the Southern Miss helmet.

As opposed to seeing a generic eagle logo on the helmet the 'Southern Miss' is recognized immediately.

[ColoradoEagle]

Look, I wish we had the SOW on the helmet. But a good example of the goal is the Southern Miss helmet.

As opposed to seeing a generic eagle logo on the helmet the 'Southern Miss' is recognized immediately.

It's also one of the worst helmets in FBS.

[Green2012]

expect green helmets with a white face mask

[Monkeypox]

It's also one of the worst helmets in FBS.

Seriously, that Southern Miss helmet is terrible. It's even worse when you learn they didn't get it second hand from a flight school in 1979. Someone intentionally came up with that.

If you want to spell something out, spell out Mean Green. We already have it in the same font as North Texas, and at least it's unique. Or have NT on there in some configuration, as long as it doesn't look like EVERY OTHER LOGO out there. I'm averse to UNT only because it's too easy to mar into offensive slang. I'm not offended by the term, but by the number of rivals out there taking the easy joke.

[FirefightnRick]

We have been known as North Texas through most of our history and have had an "NT" on the helmet much of if not most of that time. And that tradition should continue but it won't for various reasons, one of which the URCM department continues to fight our AD department over it, eliminating any chance that the university as a whole will ever be equally represented as it deserves to be. It's shameful and pathetic IMO because of the money this program is leaving on the table.

Simply come up with a unique, distinguishable interlocking "NT" to use by itself or integrated with any of the current North Texas athletic symbols. And the second we beat Houston and Indiana and it accompanies the highlights on Sports Center we could put this problem to rest.

Rick

Edited May 12, 2011 by FirefightnRick

[jdennis82]

Look, I wish we had the SOW on the helmet. But a good example of the goal is the Southern Miss helmet.

As opposed to seeing a generic eagle logo on the helmet the 'Southern Miss' is recognized immediately.

I think the primary point here is that it doesn't matter what the helmet looks like, we just need something that will not change in 5 years. Even ugly can become traditional/classic if there's success on the field and a refusal to change.

[eppy4life]

.30 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5Te-CPk2GA

Edited May 12, 2011 by eppy4life

[UNTLifer]

It's also one of the worst helmets in FBS.

And I have a feeling this is a reason RV wants North Texas on the helmets.

[shutter]

lime green=hideous

It was not lime green, it was apple green as I remember, hehehehe