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There are good conference alignments in those proposals but to make it a (near) true SWC you would have to have TCU.

I still believe that the future should require a CUSA/SBC split along geographical lines. The sticky problem is getting Memphis to accept reality and

where Southern Miss lands. Also at issue might be getting the western CUSA folks to accept Louisiana (UL-Lafayette) and/or Arkansas State. Hell, as bad as we've been lately in football I'd have to even throw in North Texas.

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I wonder why a lot of people keep referring to a Texas centered conference as the new SWC. The Southwest conference was basically a Texas conference that included the state powers. Since none of the Big 12 schools are going to opt for a conference that includes the have-nots of Texas and it is unlikely that TCU with their recent success would consider it either, any league with the remaining schools would be the SWC in name only. South-central would be a more descriptive for a new Texas area based conference. Combining the western divisions of CUSA and the Belt makes too much sense to ever happen. Egos and the magical mysterious "my school is to good to be associated with your" concept will likely keep it from happening unless it is absolutely essential for survival. No matter how much red ink flows at SMU, Houston, Tulsa, Rice, Tulane and Memphis, they are just too good to be associated with NT, ULL, Ark St, etc. It matters not that an intelligent case for this belief can not be supported.

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      Florida Atlantic (1/26/25)

      I think UNT Doge needs to look at those funding trails. I’m all about creating more experience environment for our fans. For adult ideas check out the concourse activity in the Thomas and Mack for UNLV games and for the kiddos check out a Texas Legends game in Frisco. It’s nonstop entertainment. Also, how about a supporters group like the Dallas Beer Guardians in Frisco before FCD games. They have an elected Board. They have a membership level as low as $10 for the season. But this group meets religiously before every game and puts on away match watching parties in Dallas and Frisco. The after party at Miss Angeline’s was fun and connecting. Organize this on the front end before the game. Jared would be well served to hire an experience engineering team that scopes successes and simply focuses on engagement initiatives. This is not his forte - he needs a team with some influencers sprinkled in. To heck with those who don’t want to come for whatever reason (some students dormant alumni). Go get the peeps who want to be entertained at the family group and individual level. GMG
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