Unt Mean Green As Compared To Sam Houston State.

codeman1021 · March 16, 2010

Don't know about you guys but I'm still peeved at the fact that the Mean Green didn't get the 14 seed on Sunday. I like most of you probably were was at the pourhouse and was incensed to see that Sam Houston got the 14 seed over us. On my way out I had a chance to share a few words with Rick Villareal and he shared similar sentiments...

After comparing stats (which just served to piss me off more) I saw that Sam lost to Lafayette and UTA, two teams that we beat in the regular season. Sure they played Kentucky and I'm sure that was a factor in that getting that seed but they still lost by 10 points. Whats worse is that they get Baylor, one of the more overrated teams in the tournament.

Heres Sams record on rivals:

SHSU record

Heres ours:

NTX record

Just for posterity heres one of the links from another post that founds my argument even more.

Team Report

So what do yall think??? I know our Mean Green are going to give K-State hell!!!! Go get em boys.

Edited March 16, 2010 by codeman1021

wardly · March 16, 2010

Don't know about you guys but I'm still peeved at the fact that the Mean Green didn't get the 14 seed on Sunday. I like most of you probably were was at the pourhouse and was incensed to see that Sam Houston got the 14 seed over us. On my way out I had a chance to share a few words with Rick Villareal and he shared similar sentiments...

After comparing stats (which just served to piss me off more) I saw that Sam lost to Lafayette and UTA, two teams that we beat in the regular season. Sure they played Kentucky and I'm sure that was a factor in that getting that seed but they still lost by 10 points. Whats worse is that they get Baylor, one of the more overrated teams in the tournament.
we lost to fiu at home in ot, 2 days later sam houston beat fiu at home by 30. also, check sargin ratings and compare ooc schedule.
Heres Sams record on rivals:
SHSU record

Heres ours:
NTX record

Just for posterity heres one of the links from another post that founds my argument even more.
Team Report

So what do yall think??? I know our Mean Green are going to give K-State hell!!!! Go get em boys.

CMJ · March 16, 2010

I don't really have a beef with SHSU. I DO have a problem with being seeded under Ohio

Edited March 16, 2010 by CMJ

Censored by Laurie · March 16, 2010

I don't really have a beef with SHSU. I DO have a problem with being seeded under Ohio

And Houston

codeman1021 · March 16, 2010

@ Wardly, I knew that the FIU incident would be brought up, but I honestly don't feel that's a good enough reason for Sam to get a better seed than us. We've got a really impressive winning streak going right now which could possibly negate that. But as for Kentucky... Ive got a problem with Sagarins ratings altogether but ill save that for another post...

foutsrouts · March 16, 2010

I don't really have a beef with SHSU. I DO have a problem with being seeded under Ohio

And Montana.

untbowler · March 16, 2010

Don't know about you guys but I'm still peeved at the fact that the Mean Green didn't get the 14 seed on Sunday. I like most of you probably were was at the pourhouse and was incensed to see that Sam Houston got the 14 seed over us. On my way out I had a chance to share a few words with Rick Villareal and he shared similar sentiments...

After comparing stats (which just served to piss me off more) I saw that Sam lost to Lafayette and UTA, two teams that we beat in the regular season. Sure they played Kentucky and I'm sure that was a factor in that getting that seed but they still lost by 10 points. Whats worse is that they get Baylor, one of the more overrated teams in the tournament.

Heres Sams record on rivals:
SHSU record

Heres ours:
NTX record

Just for posterity heres one of the links from another post that founds my argument even more.
Team Report

So what do yall think??? I know our Mean Green are going to give K-State hell!!!! Go get em boys.

If JJ would have gotten the guys ready for Boise St. trip it would not be an issue, then add in early losses to FIU and ULL, plus a weak OOC and we get what we get. I am just happy to see them in the tournament, as for Baylor being overrated?? Many have them beating Nova and possibly Duke in the easiest region.

drex · March 16, 2010

Those weak games in Denton have bitten us in the butt.

foutsrouts · March 16, 2010

If JJ would have gotten the guys ready for Boise St. trip it would not be an issue, then add in early losses to FIU and ULL, plus a weak OOC and we get what we get. I am just happy to see them in the tournament, as for Baylor being overrated?? Many have them beating Nova and possibly Duke in the easiest region.

I agree. Baylor is big and athletic. Glad we avoided them.

akriesman · March 16, 2010

I was looking at all the 13 and 14 seeds schedules. I cannot fathom how any computer or group of individuals could possibly give Ohio that high of a seed. Houston is another one that is a head scratcher.

I am sure that K-State is not exactly thrilled about having to play UNT, especially in OKC. I expect us to put up a fight and not be a team that will go down easily, like most 15 seeds do.

codeman1021 · March 16, 2010

If JJ would have gotten the guys ready for Boise St. trip it would not be an issue, then add in early losses to FIU and ULL, plus a weak OOC and we get what we get. I am just happy to see them in the tournament, as for Baylor being overrated?? Many have them beating Nova and possibly Duke in the easiest region.

Baylors young and cocky my friend. I'm not saying they don't deserve to be in the tourney by any means (although I believe the Aggies should have their seed)but I wouldn't count Sam Houston out of an upset which is another reason for me to be ticked at their 14 seed. I wouldn't pick them to advance past the sweet 16 in my brackets because if Sam doesn't get em I bet ND will... They are just too cocky, which in my opinion has them begging to be upset despite their weak bracket.

Check this rivals article

Overrated teams.

Edited March 16, 2010 by codeman1021

greenminer · March 16, 2010

Baylors young and cocky my friend. I'm not saying they don't deserve to be in the tourney by any means (although I believe the Aggies should have their seed)but I wouldn't count Sam Houston out of an upset which is another reason for me to be ticked at their 14 seed. I wouldn't pick them to advance past the sweet 16 in my brackets because if Sam doesn't get em I bet ND will... They are just too cocky, which in my opinion has them begging to be upset despite their weak bracket.

Check this rivals article
Overrated teams.

You've probably dismissed Kentucky, too?

codeman1021 · March 16, 2010

You've probably dismissed Kentucky, too?

Not hardly. Besides following the sunbelt I follow the big 12 a bit too and honestly I just don't think Baylor has what it takes to compared with Kansas or even K-State for that matter. Mark my words, first or second round and they are done... As for Kentucky, everyone knows they are legendary in terms of NCAA basketball right there with Duke, UNC, Kansas, Michigan State, and etc...

foutsrouts · March 16, 2010

Baylors young and cocky my friend. I'm not saying they don't deserve to be in the tourney by any means (although I believe the Aggies should have their seed)but I wouldn't count Sam Houston out of an upset which is another reason for me to be ticked at their 14 seed. I wouldn't pick them to advance past the sweet 16 in my brackets because if Sam doesn't get em I bet ND will... They are just too cocky, which in my opinion has them begging to be upset despite their weak bracket.
Check this rivals article

Overrated teams.

Nothing wrong with being young and cocky. The Fab 5 was definitely young and cocky, and they did pretty well. Besides, Baylor isn't all that young anyway. I think they start 1 Senior, 2 Juniors, and 2 Sophomores. I have them going far in my bracket.

codeman1021 · March 16, 2010

Nothing wrong with being young and cocky. The Fab 5 was definitely young and cocky, and they did pretty well. Besides, Baylor isn't all that young anyway. I think they start 1 Senior, 2 Juniors, and 2 Sophomores. I have them going far in my bracket.

I agree there's nothing wrong with walking with a bit of swagger but... Its like dealing with a kid that picks a fight on the grade school playground, I'd be more willing to punch the kid that talks a lot of noise in the mouth (Baylor) than I would the kid that never talks at all (K-State etc..), you never know what they are thinking... Just my opinion though... I see the passion that both Kansas teams play with and its scary good, I just don't see it as much with Baylor, or Texas for that matter.

greenminer · March 16, 2010

Not hardly. Besides following the sunbelt I follow the big 12 a bit too and honestly I just don't think Baylor has what it takes to compared with Kansas or even K-State for that matter. Mark my words, first or second round and they are done... As for Kentucky, everyone knows they are legendary in terms of NCAA basketball right there with Duke, UNC, Kansas, Michigan State, and etc...

I'm just asking if you are applying the same Baylor logic to Kentucky. Because they are very young and athletic...probably moreso than Baylor.

codeman1021 · March 16, 2010

I'm just asking if you are applying the same Baylor logic to Kentucky. Because they are very young and athletic...probably moreso than Baylor.

There's not a doubt in my mind that Kentucky is more athletic than Baylor, I mean kids grow up dreaming about playing for teams like Kentucky and I think that makes the difference... The fact that KY has had a whole host of awesome coaches throughout the years doesn't hurt either.