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Started hearing this on another fairly reliable board at about 2:30 today. Third hand so far, and no links yet. I'll post if it gains any legs. May be nothing, so take it FWIW.

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Started hearing this on another fairly reliable board at about 2:30 today. Third hand so far, and no links yet. I'll post if it gains any legs. May be nothing, so take it FWIW.

There's been a lot of chatter about this being virtually a done deal since October, but nothing really formal to point to. I always dismissed it as wishful thinking by a few loud folks, but would be quite the domino mover if it went down.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_West_Conference

"The Boise, Idaho, radio station KBOI reported on Nov. 11, 2008, that the Western Athletic Conference member Boise State's president Robert Kustra had received a letter from the Mountain West Conference with an invitation to join this league. Despite the popularity of potential expansion among some fans and reporters, this report, also reported on the Boise newspaper's Web site www.IdahoStatesman.com , has been denied.[citation needed]

Later, on November 12, 2009, San Diego radio host Lee "Hacksaw" Hamilton reported that the Mountain West Conference intended to expand to gain automatic access to the Bowl Championship Series by adding Boise State, Nevada, and Fresno State:

"These rumors are everywhere out of the nation's capital. There are negotiations between the people for the BCS as well as the Mountain West Conference. If the Mountain West wants to get a guaranteed spot in the BCS they must expand. The expansion would include Boise State, Nevada-Reno and Fresno State. Make it a power twelve-team conference."[1]

The rumor created commotion on Internet message boards across the country. However, no immediate report from the Mountain West Conference, the BCS, or the NCAA was made to substantiate this claim."

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I always take conference jump reports in the media with a large grain of salt. Those reported on bbs I don't even consider. Yes, when conference jumps do happen they often are reported on bbs far in advance. But, you can probably find some message on some bbs reporting a rumor of every FBC school joining every FBC conference. Even a broken watch is right twice a day. The MWC claims to much higher academic standards than the WACy schools. Of course, they have Wyoming which is far from poor but certainly not what you would call a public ivy.

I believe conference jumps when real journalists (not blogs) who actually need two reputable sources before they type are the one's reporting.

Don't waist your time reading the rest!

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I always take conference jump reports in the media with a large grain of salt. Those reported on bbs I don't even consider. Yes, when conference jumps do happen they often are reported on bbs far in advance. But, you can probably find some message on some bbs reporting a rumor of every FBC school joining every FBC conference. Even a broken watch is right twice a day. The MWC claims to much higher academic standards than the WACy schools. Of course, they have Wyoming which is far from poor but certainly not what you would call a public ivy.

I believe conference jumps when real journalists (not blogs) who actually need two reputable sources before they type are the one's reporting.

Don't waist your time reading the rest! according to wac rules, a member must give notice by july 1st, 2010, in order to leave conference for 2011 season[google mwc realignment] if they go to 12, bosie, fresno are probably in, with houston or nevada according to speculation.

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Boise is always discussed, but then it gets muddy.

Do they take Fresno / Nevada or do they find a travel partner for TCU in Houston? If they do go to 12 teams how do they split, East/West North/South?

North/South idea

North

Boise, Wyo, Colo State, AF, BYU, Utah

South

SDSU, Fresno, Nevada, New Mexico, TCU, UH

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Boise is always discussed, but then it gets muddy.

Do they take Fresno / Nevada or do they find a travel partner for TCU in Houston? If they do go to 12 teams how do they split, East/West North/South?

North/South idea

North

Boise, Wyo, Colo State, AF, BYU, Utah

South

SDSU, Fresno, Nevada, New Mexico, TCU, UH

From what I've heard, they will add Boise if they're adding just one team. If they're adding 3 teams it will come from (in order of the preference that I've heard, no homer pick here): Fresno St, Houston, Tulsa, Nevada, UTEP, and SMU. I really don't see them taking UTEP or SMU. I think the lack of another good Western school makes it unlikely they will add more than Boise at this time because I'm not sure they really want Nevada all that badly.

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From what I've heard, they will add Boise if they're adding just one team. If they're adding 3 teams it will come from (in order of the preference that I've heard, no homer pick here): Fresno St, Houston, Tulsa, Nevada, UTEP, and SMU. I really don't see them taking UTEP or SMU. I think the lack of another good Western school makes it unlikely they will add more than Boise at this time because I'm not sure they really want Nevada all that badly.

Can you or GreenMiner explain UTEP conference affiliation to me. El Paso is a Southwestern City. Why are they not in the WAC or the MWC?

I can see the CUSA affiliation to stay relevant in the state of Texas, and stay connected to their alumni/recruiting bases in Dallas and Houston, and the perception of CUSA vs WAC but it seems like they would be a better fit in the western conferences.

Who did they piss off (what don't they have) to not be invited to MWC in the first place?

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Can you or GreenMiner explain UTEP conference affiliation to me. El Paso is a Southwestern City. Why are they not in the WAC or the MWC?

I can see the CUSA affiliation to stay relevant in the state of Texas, and stay connected to their alumni/recruiting bases in Dallas and Houston, and the perception of CUSA vs WAC but it seems like

they would be a better fit in the western conferences.

Who did they piss off (what don't they have) to not be invited to MWC in the first place?

A brief comment -

When the MWC was formed they did not invite UTEP. I believe it had a lot to do with the amount of commitment UTEP was placing on athletics at the time. As far as CUSA they (UTEP) saw it as an improvement over the WAC and a way to be in with other Texas schools. Also, and they will not admit it, there was no way UTEP wanted to stay in the same conference that NMSU was going to be in.

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