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With the debt out of control, unemployement at new highs, stimulus packages, congressional payoffs to pass bills and future admendments, health care estimated taking up to one-sixth of our gnp ......

....my question.....

where has all the liberal democratic supporters of these measures melted away to on the gmg board?? the dems did state, quite clearly, that they were going to pass these measures.......

how do ya'll feel now about these measures??? do ya'll still support them or are you having second/third/fourth thoughts about the consequences they will impose or have imposed??

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SCREAMING EAGLE-66
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---The Liberals (or the one you call Liberals) aren't as Liberal as you try to label them.... just as the Conservatives weren't that Conservative [note the debt doubled between 2000-08... that is not

SCREAMING EAGLE-66
SCREAMING EAGLE-66

--Give it up.... He had half-crazy Christian minister and you complained about that too. PS: The Puritans did not celebrate Christmas or Easter but some here keep about pounding keeping the tradit

SCREAMING EAGLE-66
SCREAMING EAGLE-66

--You are absolutely correct..... but we can't have it both ways... The last reduction in taxes was a large contributing factor in the debt doubling between 2000-2008. Meanwhile our expenses increas

Green Gas Newbie

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With the debt out of control, unemployement at new highs, stimulus packages, congressional payoffs to pass bills and future admendments, health care estimated taking up to one-sixth of our gnp ......

....my question.....

where has all the liberal democratic supporters of these measures melted away to on the gmg board?? the dems did state, quite clearly, that they were going to pass these measures.......

how do ya'll feel now about these measures??? do ya'll still support them or are you having second/third/fourth thoughts about the consequences they will impose or have imposed??

Don't worry they are around.

Green Gas Newbie

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Thumbs up all around.

I hope they pass a bill that legalizes public gay sex between stoned Muslims. In a Prius. While they perfrom abortions.

You know I believe you are that guy.

Green P1 Enthusiast

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Thumbs up all around.

I hope they pass a bill that legalizes public gay sex between stoned Muslims. In a Prius. While they perfrom abortions.

I would expect you'd think that way.

UNTflyer Apprentice

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Can you list the specific measures that you would like for us to respond to?

(And please try to contain your urge to list the measures with your own cute conservative spin terms...thanks!)

Health care death panels.

Marriage tax.

Murder of the unborn.

The War on Christmas.

Appeasement of terrorists and communists.

Just to name a few...

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BeanCounterGrad'03

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Health care death panels.

Marriage tax.

Murder of the unborn.

The War on Christmas.

Appeasement of terrorists and communists.

Just to name a few...

Just couldn't contain yourself, could you?

When you get more specific and list these issue WITHOUT YOUR SPIN, then I'll be happy to respond.

UNTflyer Apprentice

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Just couldn't contain yourself, could you?

When you get more specific and list these issue WITHOUT YOUR SPIN, then I'll be happy to respond.

How do you feel about a half-Muslim president ignoring the problem of Muslims hating airplanes and Christmas?

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How do you feel about a half-Muslim president ignoring the problem of Muslims hating airplanes and Christmas?

It's the worst crisis this country has known since the Pope secretly ran America through his puppet, John F. Kennedy.

Popery!!!!

yyz28 Enthusiast

yyz28

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Thumbs up all around.

I hope they pass a bill that legalizes public gay sex between stoned Muslims. In a Prius. While they perfrom abortions.

That's already legal in Oregon.

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Ok, in all fairness, here's a short list of items I think were hot buttons in the election for many of the true libs, and would like a score card on how you think the president has done on them and why you feel that way. ...and I'm looking for response from folks who self identify as a liberal, not an independant.

1. The Healthcare Bill as currently structured, as best you understand it right now.

2. The wars in Iraq and Afganistan.

3. The decision to try the 9/11 attackers in civillian/criminal courts.

4. The closing of (or the plans to close) Gitmo.

I look forward to seeing your responses.

SCREAMING EAGLE-66 Rookie

SCREAMING EAGLE-66

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---The Liberals (or the one you call Liberals) aren't as Liberal as you try to label them.... just as the Conservatives weren't that Conservative [note the debt doubled between 2000-08... that is not being conservtive ]

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SCREAMING EAGLE-66 Rookie

SCREAMING EAGLE-66

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How do you feel about a half-Muslim president ignoring the problem of Muslims hating airplanes and Christmas?

--Give it up.... He had half-crazy Christian minister and you complained about that too.

PS: The Puritans did not celebrate Christmas or Easter but some here keep about pounding keeping the traditions of our forefathers. They also burned people at the stake for not believing as they did. I am very much a Christian but what you think was true is often a myth. The Southern Christians had no problem with owning slaves either.

Muslims hate airplanes ????? Seems like some of them love to use them as weapons.

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3. The decision to try the 9/11 attackers in civillian/criminal courts.

I really, really hate getting involved in these, but the word stickler in me can't help it... The attackers, in the most appropriate sense of the word, would have to be tried in a sieve or an hourglass. You're talking about the people we're prosecuting for planning the attacks.

Don't assume anything about my politics... Just saying that all the people who actually carried out the attack are dead.

UNTflyer Apprentice

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note the debt doubled between 2000-08... that is not being conservtive

And that projected debt has almost quadrupled again in just the first 6 months under Obama... I bet you're REALLY mad about that!!!

(Oh, wait... he has a (D) by his name, so that makes it OK. Selective outrage.)

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Quoner

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So, I guess no serious discussion? Anyone?

...and I'm looking for response from folks who self identify as a liberal, not an independant.

Sorry.

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SCREAMING EAGLE-66 Rookie

SCREAMING EAGLE-66

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So, I guess no serious discussion? Anyone?

Nope... Everyone knows who was President when this economic mess started... It will be expensive to recover from it plus after the 5000+ DOW drop, the capitol gains are now nearly non-existant on tax forms which mean a lot less taxes will be collected as well... plus we have more un-employment expenses now as a result.... By collecting less taxes and having more expensives --- of course the debt will rise... We all know when this started...

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UNTFan23 Community Regular

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Nope... Everyone knows who was President when this economic mess started... It will be expensive to recover from it plus after the 5000+ DOW drop, the capitol gains are now nearly non-existant on tax forms which mean a lot less taxes will be collected as well... plus we have more un-employment expenses now as a result.... By collecting less taxes and having more expensives --- of course the debt will rise... We all know when this started...

Regardless, there is no plan to have a budget surplus ... evah. We're going to need increase taxes dramatically at some point if we're ever going to pay down any of this debt we've accumulated.

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Regardless, there is no plan to have a budget surplus ... evah. We're going to need increases taxes dramatically at some point if we're ever going to pay down any of this debt we've accumulated.

Or we need to need to spend less and pay off our debts. I dislike the idea that you have to raise taxes to pay off debt. I don't get to just increase my income if I get into debt.

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