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UNTFan23 Rising Star

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Slow down speed racer.

Eye will stop my off-topic banter win people start spelling words correctly.
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Green Mean Enthusiast

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I'm happy for SMU. They deserve to win this game and I am truly pulling for them. It only spices the college football scene for the DFW area. Now it is up to UNT for them to get better and win some bowl games again.

UNT86 Mentor

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Mabey our coaches should tune in, it can't hurt.

I don't think I'm the only one tired of signing on and reading this kind of comment.

Coach DeLoach was the DC for our bowl teams, Mike Nelson has coached in 8 bowl games, Gahagan 3 Heisman Trophy winners, Ford's teams average 385 yards per game, Leftwich was here for 4 straight bowls (and they didn't exactly suck while he was at Tulsa), Peterson spent 17 years at Air Force, Conley has multiple bowls while at UT...so exactly which coaches should "tune in"? What should they be looking for? Is there a scheme our staff is missing? Maybe a route combination? Maybe a zone blitz of some kind? Perhaps a kickoff formation that is diferent from ours? Be specific. Maybe give one of our coaches a call....I'm sure they would be interested in any insight you can offer.

Like I said, I'm just tired of all the negative posts.

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I don't think I'm the only one tired of signing on and reading this kind of comment.

Coach DeLoach was the DC for our bowl teams, Mike Nelson has coached in 8 bowl games, Gahagan 3 Heisman Trophy winners, Ford's teams average 385 yards per game, Leftwich was here for 4 straight bowls (and they didn't exactly suck while he was at Tulsa), Peterson spent 17 years at Air Force, Conley has multiple bowls while at UT...so exactly which coaches should "tune in"? What should they be looking for? Is there a scheme our staff is missing? Maybe a route combination? Maybe a zone blitz of some kind? Perhaps a kickoff formation that is diferent from ours? Be specific. Maybe give one of our coaches a call....I'm sure they would be interested in any insight you can offer.

Like I said, I'm just tired of all the negative posts.

You know as well as I do that even if a fan DOES have a genius idea, no coach would be willing to listen to it.

What sort of posts did you expect from a fan base that has had to endure a three year record of 5-31?.

Maybe the position coaches wouldn't gain any sort of insight about SMU's turnaround, but our HC and AD just might.

Of course, as much as we hate SMU, and as much as we think they deserved their death penalty of 25 years ago, they do have some credible history in football. Coach Jones did have that to build on.

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Thanks for all the kind words. For us after 25 years of no bowls this is really fantastic for us. Best wishes for North Texas turning it around next year.

Congrats. We made a lot of merriment at SMU's expense, particularly on our old website... But if one Metroplex team can dig their way out of a godawful hole, good for them. Misery loves company, but there's no joy in both our programs being disasters.

Enjoy the moment.

UNT86 Mentor

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"You know as well as I do that even if a fan DOES have a genius idea, no coach would be willing to listen to it. "

Like what? What exactly is the "genius" idea? I hear lots of lip on this site, but no specifics.

"Maybe the position coaches wouldn't gain any sort of insight about SMU's turnaround, but our HC and AD just might."

Again, what kind of insight?

And remember, a couple of years ago, $MU was losing a lot of close games. They believe in Jones the same way our kids believe in Dodge.

Just give it one more season. I think you will be glad you did.

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UNT90 Newbie

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"You know as well as I do that even if a fan DOES have a genius idea, no coach would be willing to listen to it. "

Like what? What exactly is the "genius" idea? I hear lots of lip on this site, but no specifics.

"Maybe the position coaches wouldn't gain any sort of insight about SMU's turnaround, but our HC and AD just might."

Again, what kind of insight?

And remember, a couple of years ago, $MU was losing a lot of close games. They believe in Jones the same way our kids believe in Dodge.

Just give it one more season. I think you will be glad you did.

You are aware they fired that coach, right?

That comparison makes no sense.

UNT86 Mentor

UNT86

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You are aware they fired that coach, right?

That comparison makes no sense.

Maybe the comparison didn't make sense to you. My point is that if the kids don't believe in what the coach is telling them, then you have to change.

Our kids still believe in Dodge. The ones at $MU did not believe in their coach, and thus the change. But the fact remains that they were close when the kids were young, the kids stayed together, and Jones is reaping the benefit now. I think we will do the same in another year.

I am also aware that you could not answer any of the other questions.

UNT90 Newbie

UNT90

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Well, I didn't really care about the other questions, but since you asked:

A snap from under center when you are on the 1 foot line.

A double tight end set when you are on the one foot line.

Mixing in a blitz when you are getting absolutely no pressure on the QB.

Not that these are earth-shattering ideas.

I'm not asking for this on every occasion, just asking that the head coach have that option in his playbook.

The frustrating thing is we are going on year 4 and basic adjustments to the college game have not been made. I damn sure don't know everything there is to know about college football, and neither do you, but I do know that there seems to be an unwilllingness to adjust schemes to respond to this level of compitition.

The fact that Coach Dodge hasn't lost the kids is more a credit to the kids than Coach Dodge. That is not a shot at Dodge, it's just that any group of kids that can endure 2 season like this team just endured and still believe in the coach is a special group of kids, and says more about their character than anything to do with the head coach.

As far as the SMU kids coming together, it's amazing how they came together after hiring an accomplished college coach when they hadn't been able to "come together" for a bowl appearance in the last 25 years, Just a timing coincidence, I guess...

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Maybe the comparison didn't make sense to you. My point is that if the kids don't believe in what the coach is telling them, then you have to change.

Our kids still believe in Dodge. The ones at $MU did not believe in their coach, and thus the change. But the fact remains that they were close when the kids were young, the kids stayed together, and Jones is reaping the benefit now. I think we will do the same in another year.

I am also aware that you could not answer any of the other questions.

Let me help then.

How about doing more than paying lip service to the TE position? Perhaps use one for more than just an extra blocker in your predictable 3 wide sets? Maybe utilize them to throw over the middle since that area is seldom if ever utilized (allowing the LB's free reign to blitz). If it's good enough for other "spread" teams like Houston, Florida and Missouri then why not NT?

How about a bit more blitzing from our defense? Perhaps some press coverage from time to time?

Maybe put a team out there that looks like they've hit someone before (I know it's radical but perhaps they could work on this hitting thing in practices)?

As a totally out of left field idea I'd like to see some traditional option from our offense (I acknowledge SMU didn't do this). Seems to me that the one thing our QB does do well is run so why not utilize him and Lance to make the defense get out of the box? Even if only run sporadically I think it could really change the way teams defend us. Could it be that daddy Dodge is afraid (rightfully so) to let junior get out there naked in the open field?

As I've said numerous times before, the mounting losses don't annoy me so much. It's the root cause of running an inflexible, arrogant gameplan that ignores what hasn't worked...that square peg ain't going in that round hole.

shaft Community Regular

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My point is that if the kids don't believe in what the coach is telling them, then you have to change. Our kids still believe in Dodge.

Clap your hands if you believe in Dodge. Come on kids, clap your hands or coach Dodge will die.

Your an idiot if your believe year four of a coach is about "buying in" to his system.

The Dodge era is the worst in school history.

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