Dems Threaten To Shut Down

[eulesseagle]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSF...nelson_in_1.asp

disgusting.

[FirefightnRick]

Yup, more arm-twisting by this White House. They will go to any level to get a bill passed, even though:

CNN Poll: 61% of Americans oppose Senate Health Care Bill.

--61 percent now oppose the Senate health care bill, compared to just 36 percent who support it.

--Just 22 percent of Americans say that the proposals would help them/their family

-- 79 percent of Americans say that the Senate bill would increase the deficit.

-- And 85 percent of Americans think the Senate bill would increase their taxes.

Rick

[FirefightnRick]

Senate Health Care Bill Would Force Some Middle Class Families to Pay $15,200 Yearly Insurance Fee, According to CBO Analysis

Forget the public option. Even without it, the health care bill presented in the Senate by Majority Leader Harry Reid (D.-Nev.) would make some middle-class American families pay what amounts to a $15,200 annual federally-mandated insurance fee, according to facts revealed in analyses published by the Congressional Budget Office.....

The fee would result from the facts that the bill requires individuals—but not employers—to purchase health insurance plans and that families that earn up to 400 percent of the federal poverty level would be given government subsidies to purchase insurance in government-regulated insurance exchanges while families earning more than 400 percent of the federal poverty level would be denied government subsidies.

A family of four—two parents and two children—earning $88,200 would be at 400 percent of the poverty level this year, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. A family of four earning $88,201, therefore, would not be eligible for a federal subsidy to buy insurance under the Senate health-care bill. If the mother and father in such a family could not get employer-based health insurance—because their employers decided not to buy their workers insurance—the family would be required by law to purchase a policy with its own money that would cost an estimated $15,200 per year, according to the CBO.

The basic facts demonstrating that this would be the case if the Senate health care bill were to become law were presented in letters that the CBO sent to Sen. Harry Reid (D.-Nev.) on November 18 and to Sen. Evan Bayh (D.-Ind.) on November 30. The letters are available on the CBO Web site.

Rick

Edited December 16, 2009 by FirefightnRick

[KRAM1]

If anyone is surprised by this they simply have not been paying attention...expected tactic...more to come. The guy who couldn't bring the Olympics to his home state but could bring terrorists to Illinois, has several other "tricks" up his sleeve...just hide and watch. However, we are still a long way from any conclusion to this health care fiasco taking place in Washington.

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

---Lots of bad and incorrect info out there... Having said that they should go very slow and make sure anything passed makes sense or not pass anything. It will next to impossible to correct if passed. If most health insurance companies weren't such slime balls... this would not even be being discussed. They have been "asking for it".

--To say all Dems support it is wrong... check your facts. If so it could have been passed months ago, they now control both houses, and the White because of what happened to our economy and SEVEN years of war the GOP left us. [WWII only lasted 4 years for the USA] The GOP would still be in office if they had done better and not doubled the national debt besides. Which group has been the financial liberals.??? Now increasing the debt is hard not to do... since there less income tax collected (less capital gains now because of the 5000 DOW drop in 2008) , more unemployment benefits etc., and more war expense in Afghanistan because the last group did not take care of business in the past eight years.. Plus we started the Iraq war..not Iraq.

--No President since FDR has inherited a worse situation. It will not be corrected quickly.

Edited December 18, 2009 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66

[UNTFan23]

(less capital gains now because of the 5000 DOW drop in 2008)

So increasing capital gains taxes will help raise more funds for our government? Considering selling stock is a voluntary action and this is a buyer's market, I doubt that much more moneys will be raised as a result of the tax increase.