Qb Recruit Better Than Riley Dodge?

UNTflyer · December 21, 2009

I fully expect Javia to redshirt next year and play backup in 2011. If he can develop and put on weight, he may see some time as a sophomore when we have a 4 TD lead in the 4th quarter.

cdizzle86 · December 21, 2009

Two QB system?

drycreek · December 21, 2009

I agree with KRAM1---Riley will be good---maybe the best NT has had

Green Dozer · December 21, 2009

I think he is down on him because he lost several games this year...due to poor decisions and turnovers...if he turned the ball over that much as a running back, he wouldn't be playing...TUNE is the better QB.

Riley did not lose the games..the team lost them. Tune would have the same results.

UNT90 · December 21, 2009

So Funny. It seems that the "Riley is the greatest thing since sliced cheese" crowd has run up against the "Riley sucks and is the worst QB ever" crowd. Riley is a Redshirt Freshman QB with below average D1A arm strength and height, above average D1A mobility, and is still learning how to protect the football at this level. Nothing more, nothing less right now. Everything else is to be written in the coming 3 seasons. He could turn out to be the next Ty Detmer, or he could turn out to be the next ....disappointing QB recruit (sorry, couldn't think of an example).

Edited December 21, 2009 by UNT90

KingDL1 · December 21, 2009

So Funny. It seems that the "Riley is the greatest thing since sliced cheese" crowd has run up against the "Riley sucks and is the worst QB ever" crowd. Riley is a Redshirt Freshman QB with below average D1A arm strength and height, above average D1A mobility, and is still learning how to protect the football at this level. Nothing more, nothing less right now. Everything else is to be written in the coming 3 seasons. He could turn out to be the next Ty Detmer, or he could turn out to be the next ....disappointing QB recruit (sorry, couldn't think of an example).

Ryan Leaf?

Green Dozer · December 21, 2009

Ryan Leaf?

Leaf was probably a touted recruit, it is what happened when he left Washington for the pros....

Travis Scott · December 21, 2009

Riley did not lose the games..the team lost them. Tune would have the same results.

agreed.

UNT90 · December 21, 2009

Leaf was probably a touted recruit, it is what happened when he left Washington for the pros....

Yep. I can think of a bunch of guys that were highly touted out of college that failed, but can't seem to come up with someone highly touted out of HS that failed in college.

Oldtimer?

OldTimer · December 21, 2009

Yep. I can think of a bunch of guys that were highly touted out of college that failed, but can't seem to come up with someone highly touted out of HS that failed in college.
Oldtimer?

I remember RB Kenneth Hall...all everything...reportedly turned down A$M with a bed full of money to come to NT ....put on weight I don't think he ever played RB...wound up on the line...............this was way back there too far for most of our posters.

Mean Green 93-98 · December 21, 2009

Yep. I can think of a bunch of guys that were highly touted out of college that failed, but can't seem to come up with someone highly touted out of HS that failed in college.
Oldtimer?

Ryan Perrilloux and Rhett Bomar.

greenminer · December 21, 2009

Define failed.

I can think of a couple that never played @ their position, but got some or little PT at another position.

emmitt01 · December 22, 2009

Injury Prone? Takes chances running, I will give you that. But some of the hits he takes , and gets back up from, is because we have no size on the o-line. Failure to pick up reads? Kind of hard when there is no blocking from the o line to speak of, and a rusher is on top of you as soon as you get the ball. "No Leadership Skill"? Oh, thats right you were out in the huddle, attended practice, talked to his teammates, coaches (besides his Dad) to come to this conclusion.
I will remind you he is the highest rated recruit to come to UNT regardless of his name. Applewhite was small to, but had some talent around him including a pretty decent offensive line. That is where the size thing can be made up. QB is not the biggest problem for this offense. Your down on him because his name is D-O-D-G-E.

Not to be a negative Ned but I can't allow you to put his turnovers at the feet of the o-line. Go back and look up how many sacks they gave up. Or explain to me how underthrown balls are the fault of the o-line. I agree that he will be improved, vastly in fact, but his freshman mistakes are all his.

Green Dozer · December 22, 2009

Not to be a negative Ned but I can't allow you to put his turnovers at the feet of the o-line. Go back and look up how many sacks they gave up. Or explain to me how underthrown balls are the fault of the o-line. I agree that he will be improved, vastly in fact, but his freshman mistakes are all his.

Emmitt, I don't see where I put the turnovers on the o line. He did not get sacked a lot because of his speed, but when he ran, he got the you know what knocked out him. Underthrown balls are made because a quarterback does not get his feet set, though, and is hurried. The o line has some, but not all, responsibility for that.

Edited December 22, 2009 by Green Dozer

NT03 · December 22, 2009

Yep. I can think of a bunch of guys that were highly touted out of college that failed, but can't seem to come up with someone highly touted out of HS that failed in college.
Oldtimer?

QB James Battle

eulessismore · December 22, 2009

Yep. I can think of a bunch of guys that were highly touted out of college that failed, but can't seem to come up with someone highly touted out of HS that failed in college.
Oldtimer?

Bo Levi Mitchell?

Quoner · December 22, 2009

Ryan Leaf?

Man, it would suck if Riley had a college career like Leaf's.

KRAM1 · December 22, 2009

Man, it would suck if Riley had a college career like Leaf's.

Finally, I have been waiting and waiting for someone to pick up on this. It's not my "type" of thing to post, but I was thinking Quoner or Tasty could really do some "good" with it...finally....all is right with the world! Thanks, Quoner. :lol:

Quoner · December 22, 2009

Finally, I have been waiting and waiting for someone to pick up on this. It's not my "type" of thing to post, but I was thinking Quoner or Tasty could really do some "good" with it...finally....all is right with the world! Thanks, Quoner.

I feel bad. I just realized that was two nut taps to KingDL in one day.

hickoryhouse · December 22, 2009

Emmitt, I don't see where I put the turnovers on the o line. He did not get sacked a lot because of his speed, but when he ran, he got the you know what knocked out him. Underthrown balls are made because a quarterback does not get his feet set, though, and is hurried. The o line has some, but not all, responsibility for that.

Riley always had the option of throwing the ball away when his guy wass being double covered, when he was having a hard time getting his feeet set, when he was running for his life, etc...etc...etc...

The O-Line can take a little responsibility, but Interceptions are mostly the fault of the QB. Sometimes he gets hit and that changes the ball flight, sometimes the WR runs the wrong route or doesn't knock the ball out of the DB's hands, but I wold say that is just splitting hairs. Let Riley take his shots and he will get better. No one gets better by being coddled. He will be much better next year, and if he is not then that will probably be his fault too.