Offensive Coordinator Wishlist

UNT Mean Green · December 1, 2009

This is a comprehensive wish list for sure, and assuming UNT steps up to pay a legitimate coordinator.

Runs a multiple offense, probably 65% out of shotgun. Utilizes TE's, FB's, and a bevy of RB's. Throws the ball downfield, and requires a mobile QB.

Cale Gundy

An outstanding recruiter, and another member of a multiple offensive scheme with spread facets throughout. Has OU ties, and don't know if he'd really leave. Makes $250K.

Jay Norvell

Another assistant at a big time program that has an emphasis on Receivers, and has called plays for big time programs (Nebraska, UCLA) as well as having NFL experience. Makes $240K.

Josh Heupel

A young, enthusiastic coach who has played and coached at big time programs. Good recruiter in this area. Makes $210K.

Joe Wickline

An emphasis on Offensive Line play and the running game. Also, has coached in the Sun Belt and was a former Recruiting Coordinator at MTSU. His next step would be as a Coordinator, and it looks like Gunter Brewer could get plucked as a head coach somewhere this offseason.

Dennis Simmons

Track record with WR's speaks for itself. Makes about $190K.

Eric Russell

Former NT assistant who has been successful along the way. Makes $190K.

Phillip Mongtomery

Highly successful offensive coach who has a spread background, and has spent some time in Denton. Texas ties.

Dino Babers

Has been a very successful offensive coordinator in his day, and has good recruiting ties.

Ed Zaunbrecher

The track record pretty much speaks for itself. An established name, and has called plays for the best of the best (LSU, Florida).

Jason Phillips

Great recruiter (look at UH's success recently), a Texas guy, NFL experience. Makes $145K right now.

Bob Connelly

A metroplex guy, who has coached a large programs and been an influential recruiter. Makes $145K right now.

These are just a few, and I'm sure there's plenty more candidates.

Mean Green 93-98 · December 1, 2009

According to USA Today, the most we pay any of our assistants is $105,300. We might be willing to step it up a bit, but I doubt it's going to be what's necessary to pull away one of these guys who is doing well and happy. There are certainly some diamonds out there currently looking for work. What about some of Kragthorpe's staff? Along a similiar line, what about Charlie Stubbs?

UNT Mean Green · December 1, 2009

Yes, that'd be nice, but I think that pricetag is way out of our ballpark. However, Franklin is making $103K and FIU's top paid assistant is making $138K.

TheTastyGreek · December 1, 2009

For the serious thread... If this turns out to be the deal and we have to sweeten this piss into lemonade, I'd want Chris Thomsen, HC at Abilene Christian.

The Fake Lonnie Finch · December 1, 2009

Coach Hines.

GoMeanGreen1999 · December 1, 2009

For the serious thread... If this turns out to be the deal and we have to sweeten this piss into lemonade, I'd want Chris Thomsen, HC at Abilene Christian.

I still can't believe or don't want to believe that this is the best option for my school, but I would be much more excited about next season with this pick.

Green Dozer · December 1, 2009

Well I will bite again and add my name from the other thread.
Major Applewhite:
Coaching Assignments
2008-present: Texas (Assistant Head Coach/Running backs)
2007: Alabama (Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks)
2006: Rice (Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks)
2005: Syracuse (Quarterbacks)
2003-04: Texas (Graduate Assistant)
Definately knows and is known in Texas.
He does already make 250K, so I guess that isn't likely.

I think he is their "OC" in waiting at Texas. I think he will have Greg Davis' job.

LongJim · December 1, 2009

Out of that lineup I would choose Zaunbrecher or Babers. Would love to have Gundy, but he's not gonna make that move, and neither is Major.

Mean Green 93-98 · December 1, 2009

For the serious thread... If this turns out to be the deal and we have to sweeten this piss into lemonade, I'd want Chris Thomsen, HC at Abilene Christian.

I really don't think he wants to leave ACU. It's his alma mater, he's winning, he's the head coach . . . I don't see we could offer him to make him want to leave.

Except buckets full of cash.

The Fake Lonnie Finch · December 1, 2009

I think he is their "OC" in waiting at Texas. I think he will have Greg Davis' job.

Well, he won't have it next year...so, maybe he could see his way to giving us a hand up for a season or three.

gangrene · December 1, 2009

My vote is that we steal Tony Franklin from MTSU, hopefully killing two birds with one stone. I just think he could make the adjustment quickly and easily, plus we can afford him, hopefully.

UNT90 · December 1, 2009

Someone that wants to work for a guy that allows blame to be placed on you to keep his own job.

Someone who is comfortable working in an environment where EVERY assistant coach has been fired in the last 3 years.

Someone, basically, who needs a paycheck.

TheTastyGreek · December 1, 2009

I really don't think he wants to leave ACU. It's his alma mater, he's winning, he's the head coach . . . I don't see we could offer him to make him want to leave.
Except buckets full of cash.

He interviewed for a 1-AA HC job and got passed over last year, when his stock was even higher than it is today. If I hadn't seen him pursue that one, I wouldn't think he'd consider it, either.

ptx44 · December 1, 2009

since this is all speculation and assuming dodge is retained and then revamps the staff, it would not hurt my feelings if he was our next oc.

http://sfajacks.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/m..._shannon00.html

will be tuning in to see how they perform against montana.

Edited December 1, 2009 by ptx44

Green Dozer · December 1, 2009

Well, he won't have it next year...so, maybe he could see his way to giving us a hand up for a season or three.

Davis has been talking retirement more seriously than Mack.......but it does not matter, he is not going to leave Austin for us anyway.

Stix · December 1, 2009

Hell, let's throw Jerry Moore's name in - maybe he'd want to try again after 30 years (no, I don't think he would).

Green to the Bone · December 2, 2009

Someone that wants to work for a guy that allows blame to be placed on you to keep his own job.
Someone who is comfortable working in an environment where EVERY assistant coach has been fired in the last 3 years.
Someone, basically, who needs a paycheck.

You've just described what I suspect is a significant majority of assistant coaches nationwide. They don't get publicly blamed, but they get fired all the time. And they all need a paycheck. Except for those at the top BCS contenders, assistants in general don't make ginormous money.

UNT90 · December 2, 2009

You've just described what I suspect is a significant majority of assistant coaches nationwide. They don't get publicly blamed, but they get fired all the time. And they all need a paycheck. Except for those at the top BCS contenders, assistants in general don't make ginormous money.

Well, then you better hire one that already lives here, because with the lack of Asst coach job security on top of the lack of head coach job security, I doubt anyone is willing to sell their house and move their family to a place where there is a better than 50% chance that you won't be around next year.

Come to think of it, I don't want to hire anyone that is that stupid.

This scenerio really makes very little sense. I think Dodge is either back with full staff or is gone.

Green Dozer · December 2, 2009

Well, then you better hire one that already lives here, because with the lack of Asst coach job security on top of the lack of head coach job security, I doubt anyone is willing to sell their house and move their family to a place where there is a better than 50% chance that you won't be around next year.
Come to think of it, I don't want to hire anyone that is that stupid.
This scenerio really makes very little sense. I think Dodge is either back with full staff or is gone.

90,

Though it is speculation on my part, if Dodge stays, I say 4 to 5 wins next year and he keeps his job. There is no way RV can expect any coach to take this team to 7 wins next year. So, though there will probably be a minimum # of wins, if it 5 and there is improvement, Dodge will coach the first UNT game in the new stadium. I can't see RV demanding more wins than that. Not saying I agree or disagree, just saying.

KingDL1 · December 2, 2009

90,
Though it is speculation on my part, if Dodge stays, I say 4 to 5 wins next year and he keeps his job. There is no way RV can expect any coach to take this team to 7 wins next year. So, though there will probably be a minimum # of wins, if it 5 and there is improvement, Dodge will coach the first UNT game in the new stadium. I can't see RV demanding more wins than that. Not saying I agree or disagree, just saying.

I don't see how RV can expect less wins then 7 wins, Dodge either turns the corner or not, 5 is not a turn in year 4, this is his team and the three years have been his chance to get the team ready. Basically what you are saying is that Dodge you have built a crappy team and we can't really expect you to surprise us now. So in essence Dodge lowered his own bar, and RV is going to reward him for minimum improvement.

Edited December 2, 2009 by KingDL1

Green Dozer · December 2, 2009

I don't see how RV can expect less wins then 7 wins, Dodge either turns the corner or not, 5 is not a turn in year 4, this is his team and the three years have been his chance to get the team ready. Basically what you are saying is that Dodge you have built a crappy team and we can't really expect you to surprise us now. So in essence Dodge lowered his own bar, and RV is going to reward him for minimum improvement.

King, he is rewarding him if he gives him an extension. But how can you realistically put a 7 win ultimatum with this team? He gets 5 wins in a season which is 2 more than in three years. It just does not fit unless the players do a complete 360 and we have some recruits or JUCO come in with immediate impact. I just do not believe "Hoosiers" or "Remember the Titans" is going to happen next year. I respect where you are coming from, but as the team stands now, 5 wins would be a significant improvement.

Quoner · December 2, 2009

King, he is rewarding him if he gives him an extension. But how can you realistically put a 7 win ultimatum with this team? He gets 5 wins in a season which is 2 more than in three years. It just does not fit unless the players do a complete 360 and we have some recruits or JUCO come in with immediate impact. I just do not believe "Hoosiers" or "Remember the Titans" is going to happen next year. I respect where you are coming from, but as the team stands now, 5 wins would be a significant improvement.

Weren't some people claiming a 6 win ultimatum before this season?

I'm thinking "Remember the Titans" might be played out. Maybe "Radio" might work?

NT03 · December 2, 2009

Weren't some people claiming a 6 win ultimatum before this season?
I'm thinking "Remember the Titans" might be played out. Maybe "Radio" might work?

If we are going movie route , these first 3 seasons have played out like SAW I - III

KingDL1 · December 2, 2009

King, he is rewarding him if he gives him an extension. But how can you realistically put a 7 win ultimatum with this team? He gets 5 wins in a season which is 2 more than in three years. It just does not fit unless the players do a complete 360 and we have some recruits or JUCO come in with immediate impact. I just do not believe "Hoosiers" or "Remember the Titans" is going to happen next year. I respect where you are coming from, but as the team stands now, 5 wins would be a significant improvement.

I am fine with 7 wins, and I do think it is fair only because it is his fourth year and by year four I expect and I think everyone connected to this program should expect a winning season. If he can't pull it off then screw it he's done move on. And honesty I think we could have been 7 and 5 this year if Dodge knew how to practice a Division 1 team.

Yup, if Dodge is back I am sticking with 7 gets you 5. Anything less is ridiculous and unsatisfactory. Then it is new coach time for sure.

I think I might even start designing my signs.

TheTastyGreek · December 2, 2009

Weren't some people claiming a 6 win ultimatum before this season?
I'm thinking "Remember the Titans" might be played out. Maybe "Radio" might work?

I want the record to note that, inspired by this post, I made an RV as Radio photoshop.

After my girlfriend said it was inappropriate to change Rick's skin tone for the purposes of comedy art, I reluctantly agreed not to post it anywhere.

But it was AWESOME. And, also for the record- Rick Villarreal looks pretty badass as a black man. If it were possible to change your race... I would strongly encourage him to consider it.

Anyway... For anyone who thinks that there's no filter or boundary... You're wrong. As long as someone with a better sense of social propriety is looking over my shoulder, I can censor myself.