Source: Decision Made

Green to the Bone · December 1, 2009

OMG...didn't realize there was a " no cussing" rule....sorry !

I think it only applies to board posts, but I'm about to test that theory in my head.

UNT90 · December 1, 2009

This pretty much describes my feelings on the whole deal.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...deoid=659040247

GoMeanGreen1999 · December 1, 2009

So what are we waiting on? When is this announcement supposed to come and why wait another day to make it?

Quoner · December 1, 2009

So what are we waiting on? When is this announcement supposed to come and why wait another day to make it?

Because it would be poor form to take the focus off World AIDS Day.

Besides, Patterson has his big press conference tomorrow to announce his new deal, so either way, this will get even more lost in the shuffle than usual. I doubt that was a motivating factor, but funny how it shakes out.

The Fake Lonnie Finch · December 1, 2009

I think TCU is doing the righ thing by trying to keep Gary Patterson.

Do you not agree with that which I am saying to you now?

Green Dozer · December 1, 2009

I am afraid and only time will tell, that bringing Dodge back for a fourth year will be the straw that breaks a lot of backs in that we will see a larger than expected decrease in season ticket sales next year.

99,

You may lose a few. But you set in the alumni side of Fouts. Look back as if you are sitting in your seat and ask yourself, are there enough "rabid" fans that are really not going to buy season tix because of this decision? There may be a few new ones over the past 10 years that are leaving, but for the most part it is the same people who have been coming for the past 20, 30, and 40 years. To them, the avg UNT fan, this is just typical North Texas business. This is one of the reasons we find ourselves in this quagmire.

I know I changed seats last year because I thought I was sitting in death's waiting room w/ all the old folks around me. Some of them had not bought a new UNT cap or t-shirt for twenty years.

The Fake Lonnie Finch · December 1, 2009

Some of them had not bought a new UNT cap or t-shirt for twenty years.

They've missed out on a lot of logo and color changes.

Cerebus · December 1, 2009

Looks like the source may have been wrong.

http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/archives...-no-decisi.html

island eagle · December 2, 2009

Looks like the source may have been wrong.
http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/archives...-no-decisi.html

Are we watching re-runs of the "Keystone Cops"?

KingDL1 · December 2, 2009

Maybe Vito is just F'ing with us, stirring the pot to see us squirm.
Damn Vito.

Now I am sure he was F'ing with us.

Green P1 · December 2, 2009

Now I am sure he was F'ing with us.

Nah, you're just being paranoid.

GoMeanGreen1999 · December 2, 2009

Now I am sure he was F'ing with us.

Any chance that was a rumor created and floated out there to see the general fan's response?

Green P1 · December 2, 2009

Any chance that was a rumor created and floated out there to see the general fan's response?

Dear God I hope not.

NT80 · December 2, 2009

What a mess. We can't even fire anybody correctly without fumbling! :whip:

KingDL1 · December 2, 2009

Any chance that was a rumor created and floated out there to see the general fan's response?

Who knows?

I the first question should be by who? The way Vito worded it was kind of squirrelly

I have yet to confirm this, but a source close to the situation has told the Denton Record-Chronicle that three UNT assistants have or will be relieved of their duties.

So who did they tell? The whole company? So it is fair to say it was not one of Vito's sources?

Followed by,

A source said earlier in the day that three assistant coaches had or would be fired and that Dodge would return for another season at UNT.
I didn't have confirmation on the tip, which is why I mentioned right up front that it was only a source that was not solid enough to put in print and only blogged about it.

I am still scratching my head, wondering WTF?

Edited December 2, 2009 by KingDL1

DeepGreen · December 2, 2009

What a mess. We can't even fire anybody correctly without fumbling!

Yeh, kinda like a blocked extra point attempt.

eulessismore · December 2, 2009

What a mess. We can't even fire anybody correctly without fumbling!

I see it as RV attempting a punt and getting it blocked.

GoMeanGreen1999 · December 2, 2009

Who knows?
I the first question should be by who? The way Vito worded it was kind of squirrelly
So who did they tell? The whole company? So it is fair to say it was not one of Vito's sources?
Followed by,
I am still scratching my head, wondering WTF?

The idea that it was floated purposely from the AD dept was just something I thought about when I saw Maher's thread a few minutes ago. The last weeks Vito blog post usually have come from one of our posters, yet the one today was posted here by Vito himself even though he admitted he didn't have confirmation.

MeanGreen61 · December 2, 2009

Any chance that was a rumor created and floated out there to see the general fan's response?

You are kidding, right ? Float a rumor here to test the water ? Laughable.

GoMeanGreen1999 · December 2, 2009

You are kidding, right ? Float a rumor here to test the water ? Laughable.

Not anymore laughable than the current situation. At this point, I wouldn't say for sure you could eliminate much.

UNT90 · December 2, 2009

You are kidding, right ? Float a rumor here to test the water ? Laughable.

Come on, you don't think the 30 or so people that post on here control the program???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI6d4WJFRm0

KingDL1 · December 2, 2009

The idea that it was floated purposely from the AD dept was just something I thought about when I saw Maher's thread a few minutes ago. The last weeks Vito blog post usually have come from one of our posters, yet the one today was posted here by Vito himself even though he admitted he didn't have confirmation.

The way I see this mess is it could go either way, one side Vito the other side the AD.

One more possibility, and maybe most probable. The AD does not have its Head and its Ass wired together, that several people in the AD have there own ideas how to fix a situation that they had hoped would fix itself. Now without clear leadership or being somewhat distracted by the Stadium are stuck without answers. This is what lead to all the rumors floating out since the Army game. Hell RV may have even promised everyone in the AD that he would consider their input on the situation. I have heard we have more money, that they were looking into all options, that Dodge was all but gone without saying it was a done deal. The snowballs chance in hell anthology, and most recently the TFLF scenario that he outlined a few weeks ago.

Did RV start a hunt to see who is available and get caught up with stadium and get behind on this then Dr. B got out of town on him?

eulessismore · December 2, 2009

The way I see this mess is it could go either way, one side Vito the other side the AD.
One more possibility, and maybe most probable. The AD does not have its Head and its Ass wired together, that several people in the AD have there own ideas how to fix a situation that they had hoped would fix itself. Now without clear leadership or being somewhat distracted by the Stadium are stuck without answers. This is what lead to all the rumors floating out since the Army game. Hell RV may have even promised everyone in the AD that he would consider their input on the situation. I have heard we have more money, that they were looking into all options, that Dodge was all but gone without saying it was a done deal. The snowballs chance in hell anthology, and most recently the TFLF scenario that he outlined a few weeks ago.
Did RV start a hunt to see who is available and get caught up with stadium and get behind on this then Dr. B got out of town on him?

Maybe someone in the AD leaked something before the principles had sat down with their accountants.

MeanGreen61 · December 2, 2009

Maybe someone in the AD leaked something before the principles had sat down with their accountants.

Maybe the internet bunny sent a phantom e-mail. :innocent:

Green Dozer · December 2, 2009

The way I see this mess is it could go either way, one side Vito the other side the AD.
One more possibility, and maybe most probable. The AD does not have its Head and its Ass wired together, that several people in the AD have there own ideas how to fix a situation that they had hoped would fix itself. Now without clear leadership or being somewhat distracted by the Stadium are stuck without answers. This is what lead to all the rumors floating out since the Army game. Hell RV may have even promised everyone in the AD that he would consider their input on the situation. I have heard we have more money, that they were looking into all options, that Dodge was all but gone without saying it was a done deal. The snowballs chance in hell anthology, and most recently the TFLF scenario that he outlined a few weeks ago.
Did RV start a hunt to see who is available and get caught up with stadium and get behind on this then Dr. B got out of town on him?

I do not think Dr. B has her hand in this as much as we would like to believe, and RV is the only person from the athletic staff who is in on this deal right now. Oh, he might bounce and idea or 2 off of Hank, but that is about it. I think this, that the coaching staff change has been in the works since at least the Army game and probably a couple of weeks before that. And I think Dodge was given an ultimatum, at that time, either everybody (including Dodge) or a couple of the staff members. I believe Dodge is weighing his options as well as trying a power play so to speak. Most coaches stand up for their staff, and don't like for others to tell them who to hire or not hire. I do not know how long Todd Ford and he have been together, but Ford is his right hand so he is not going to break that relationship without a fight. Dr. B has probably given Rick the latitude that if Dodge balks, then he is gone. Just a guess, speculation. Now I will go and beat my head against the wall and post more speculation that I am speculating about at some point. I have probably said a lot of nothing here and i am sorry. This deal is making all our heads hurt!

Edited December 2, 2009 by Green Dozer