Description Of Army Game

untStein · November 25, 2009

I say this because I wasn't able to make the game. One of my profs was there and said it was like watching two sloppy drunks in a bar fight. This sounds accurate from what I was able to hear on the radio.

tonyhuntoon · November 25, 2009

I second that opinion.

Scary that Army may actually be in a bowl game.

eulessismore · November 25, 2009

I say this because I wasn't able to make the game. One of my profs was there and said it was like watching two sloppy drunks in a bar fight. This sounds accurate from what I was able to hear on the radio.

With the possible exception of Dunbar's TD run, It wasn't a thing of beauty. Still, and being there, I was sure wishing we could have won ugly. As Darrell Royal said, "Old ugly beats old nothing".

GoMeanGreen1999 · November 25, 2009

I second that opinion.
Scary that Army may actually be in a bowl game.

Amazing isn't it? If you can win 6 games these day, regardless of who they are against you get into a bowl game these days....and probably why we will never see a playoff.

forevereagle · November 25, 2009

Amazing isn't it? If you can win 6 games these day, regardless of who they are against you get into a bowl game these days....and probably why we will never see a playoff.

Remember when there was a time when you could win 5 games and make a bowl game? Ah, the good old days.

Huff · November 25, 2009

Army would have to defeat Navy in order to get six wins and be bowl eligible. I think that is highly unlikely.

emmitt01 · November 25, 2009

I second that opinion.
Scary that Army may actually be in a bowl game.

I hope they don't make it. The apologists will soon be trumpeting the fact that Todge "lost a close game to a bowl team."

UNT90 · November 25, 2009

Ball St. beat W. Michigan last night. A bad, young team gets better as the year progresses? What a concept.

NT80 · November 26, 2009

Remember when there was a time when you could win 5 games and make a bowl game? Ah, the good old days.

North Texas almost went to the Humanitarian Bowl in 1998 with a 3-8 record.

UNT (3-8) finished the Big West race 3-2 and owned tiebreakers over Idaho (4-1) and Nevada (3-2).

"The Vandals cruised through the season with a 7-3 record heading into a final showdown against Boise State. They needed to win against Boise to clinch the Big West title and the school’s first bowl bid. Trailing 28-35 in overtime, the Vandals scored what might have been the tying touchdown, but the Broncos called a timeout to try to ice kicker Ben Davis on the extra point. The Vandals shocked BSU by sending the offense back out for a gutsy two-point conversion attempt, which Joel Thomas scored to give Idaho a 36-35 victory."

Had Idaho lost that overtime last game, the Big West would have been obligated to give UNT the Bowl invite (this was also before the 2001 UNT (5-6) rule change that said Bowl teams must have 6 wins). BTW, Idaho was underdogs in the Bowl but beat USM. Ah, what could have been History for UNT!

football fan · November 27, 2009

Army would have to defeat Navy in order to get six wins and be bowl eligible. I think that is highly unlikely.

Army was not very good. They just barely beat VMI the week before which is a D1AA team. We gave that game to Army.

VideoEagle · November 27, 2009

Had Idaho lost that overtime last game, the Big West would have been obligated to give UNT the Bowl invite (this was also before the 2001 UNT (5-6) rule change that said Bowl teams must have 6 wins). BTW, Idaho was underdogs in the Bowl but beat USM. Ah, what could have been History for UNT!

Actually, there was no rule change. There has been a provision for conference champions to go to bowl games regardless of the number of wins for many years and the provision is still in place. Here's good old 30.9.2.3 :

Waiver for Conference Champion. [FBS] The Leadership Council, by a two-thirds majority of

its members present and voting, or a committee designated by the Leadership Council, may approve a waiver of

the six-victory requirement to enable a conference champion to participate in a bowl game when the conference

champion is scheduled contractually to participate in the game. (Adopted: 1/12/93, Revised: 10/28/97, 11/1/07

effective 8/1/08)

Here's the link to the 2009-10 Division 1 Manual.