Jump to content

Hey Sun Belt Conference Expand Or Die

MeanGreen61

By MeanGreen61
in Mean Green Football

 Share

Recommended Posts

Quoner Veteran

Quoner

Posted
Posted

Writer claims to follow UNT. Apparent anyone can submit stuff to the Bleacher Report.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Yet, we still read it, post it and give it hits.

VideoEagle Mentor

VideoEagle

Posted
Posted (edited)

Writer claims to follow UNT. Apparent anyone can submit stuff to the Bleacher Report.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/275690-...e-expand-or-die

Whoever wrote this doesn't know very much about the schools in the conference. ULL is NOT mad at ULM over the University of Louisiana name. Western officials decided last year the SBC was better for them long term than the MAC. The MUTS to the MAC idea had even less support, if it every really had any besides a couple of fans posting on a message board.

This loony writer thinks NT would be stupid enough to go to the WAC if we had a larger athletic budget. One, after getting NMSU, USU and Idaho, the WAC has said repeatedly it is NOT interested in any school in the Central Time Zone. Two, the reasons NT doesn't fit in the WAC are well documented - significantly less media coverage, travel increases, etc.

Next this idiot decides the MAC could split into two conferences, apparently based only in some dream in the writer's head since no one from any MAC school, nor in conference official, has suggested that as a possibility. Since one of those two new groups would lose their NCAA basketball AQ, they'd be insane to split.

I stopped reading after that point as this "writer" is so woefully uninformed. If you haven't gone to the bleacher report and read the article, don't bother!

Edited by VideoEagle
wardly Grand Master

wardly

Posted
Posted

point is that cusa is most likely to split when/if big east adds football only school, such as central florida. their conference has worse travel issues than the belt. at present the mac has 11 schools since marshall pulled out in favor of cusa. since w.k and middle are locked at the hip, the mac makes sense for them. i would hope that before i die that cuas splits and adds us, la-tech, and either a-state or ulala. i think the size of your athletic budget and market will be determing factors, as well as a conference sponsor and baseball program, which we don't have. i also think the alabama and florida schools would fit well into cusa east, and la-monroe go back to southland where they belong.for automatic ncaa invitation purposes, the east may fly the sunbelt flag and the west cusa. i don't see continuing to add 1aa programs moving to 1a gets us or the belt to where it wants to be.

BeanCounterGrad'03 Rookie

BeanCounterGrad'03

Posted
Posted

point is that cusa is most likely to split when/if big east adds football only school, such as central florida. their conference has worse travel issues than the belt. at present the mac has 11 schools since marshall pulled out in favor of cusa. since w.k and middle are locked at the hip, the mac makes sense for them. i would hope that before i die that cuas splits and adds us, la-tech, and either a-state or ulala. i think the size of your athletic budget and market will be determing factors, as well as a conference sponsor and baseball program, which we don't have. i also think the alabama and florida schools would fit well into cusa east, and la-monroe go back to southland where they belong.for automatic ncaa invitation purposes, the east may fly the sunbelt flag and the west cusa. i don't see continuing to add 1aa programs moving to 1a gets us or the belt to where it wants to be.

I believe the MAC currently has 13 members.

Aquila_Viridis Rising Star

Aquila_Viridis

Posted
Posted

... and la-monroe go back to southland where they belong.

Uh, right. I am one of the biggest haters of Northeast and yet I think you have to recognize that North Texas no way is in a position to make a statement like that. They DO have a baseball program and oh didn't they beat Alabama not too long ago and won 2 of the last 3 meetings with North Texas? Plus they have a swamp on their campus which works as a positive only in Louisiana, but still. If the North Texas ship ever gets headed in the right direction, then you can go back to this kind of dumping, but not right now please. Meanwhile you should acquire a taste for fried turkey.

Shuke-D Newbie

Shuke-D

Posted
Posted

Plus they have a swamp on their campus which works as a positive only in Louisiana, but still.

I have been to this campus and said swamp. It should be noted that there is (or at least was about 10 years ago) a sign posted there that said "Do not shoot the ducks."

To extend the Simpson quoting meme from another thread:

Homer: "See? Because of me, now they have a warning."

Aquila_Viridis Rising Star

Aquila_Viridis

Posted
Posted

I have been to this campus and said swamp. It should be noted that there is (or at least was about 10 years ago) a sign posted there that said "Do not shoot the ducks."

To extend the Simpson quoting meme from another thread:

Homer: "See? Because of me, now they have a warning."

Are you saying those aren't tukeys they are frying in Monroe?

Shuke-D Newbie

Shuke-D

Posted
Posted

Are you saying those aren't tukeys they are frying in Monroe?

More to the point: Have we solved the mystery of where Turducken originated? Dang, gotta give Louisiana some credit then.

MeanMag Rising Star

MeanMag

Posted
Posted (edited)

Uh, right. I am one of the biggest haters of Northeast and yet I think you have to recognize that North Texas no way is in a position to make a statement like that. They DO have a baseball program and oh didn't they beat Alabama not too long ago and won 2 of the last 3 meetings with North Texas? Plus they have a swamp on their campus which works as a positive only in Louisiana, but still. If the North Texas ship ever gets headed in the right direction, then you can go back to this kind of dumping, but not right now please. Meanwhile you should acquire a taste for fried turkey.

Edited by MeanMag
wardly Grand Master

wardly

Posted
Posted

Uh, right. I am one of the biggest haters of Northeast and yet I think you have to recognize that North Texas no way is in a position to make a statement like that. They DO have a baseball program and oh didn't they beat Alabama not too long ago and won 2 of the last 3 meetings with North Texas? Plus they have a swamp on their campus which works as a positive only in Louisiana, but still. If the North Texas ship ever gets headed in the right direction, then you can go back to this kind of dumping, but not right now please. Meanwhile you should acquire a taste for fried turkey.

la tech will never join same conference as la/monroe. in addition, monroe athletic budget is only about $6 million, and they have no t.v.market. conference realignment is based on more than won/loss records. look at s.m.u., with no baseball program and historic poor football/basketball programs. and yes, mac has 13 teams, not 11. my bad.

VideoEagle Mentor

VideoEagle

Posted
Posted

It should be noted that there is (or at least was about 10 years ago) a sign posted there that said "Do not shoot the ducks."

You have to love a place that doesn't mind folks walking around with loaded shotguns as long as the don't shoot the ducks.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Tell a friend

    Love GoMeanGreen.com? Tell a friend!

  • What's going on Mean Green?

    1. 24

      Eric Morris needs to go

      I just hope Jared has been working the phones trying to gather up the money to get rid of this guy. We need to cut our losses before he tanks us like Mac did and we end up getting pummeled by some FCS program again.
      Venson in Mean Green Football
    2. 24

      Eric Morris needs to go

      Regarding the guys with no FBS HC experience, I personally have no issue with that. If we pluck a HC from a lower level, it needs to be somebody with extensive HC experience. There's guy who spend almost 10 years as a lower level HC. Examples include Lance Leipold of Kansas who went 109-6 over 8 seasons at D3 Wisconsin-Whitewater before being hired at Buffalo. Bob Chesney of James Madison went 111-46 over the course for 14 seasons at various D2 and FCS schools. There's guys out there to be plucked. My choice is to promote from within with Cobbs. Cobbs may not work at HC and I know it's a huge leap in responsibility but you won't know unless you try and others haven't worked out. He's worked wonders at RB and he's been doing it for a while. I'm sure he's made connections over the course of his playing and coaching career and would surround himself with experienced winners. My biggest thing is he loves this school and would want to succeed for the love of the school and not just for his own career. I looked back at Boise State head coaches since 2001 and found every single BSU HC spent time coaching at BSU prior to becoming HC and a few played at BSU as well. Several were promoted to HC from within, some went and became coordinators elsewhere before returning as their HC, and only 2 had prior HC experience, Bryan Harsin and Dan Hawkins. Harsin actually left to become Texas's co-OC and then Arkansas State's HC for a 1 year before returning to BSU as their HC but he'd been a coordinator there prior and played at BSU. I believe he's currently on the market and only 48 if we wanted somebody with experience though poor recruiting was a complaint at Auburn. Boise State kind of debunks the whole "prior HC experience" requirement, though.
      • 1
      • Upvote
      GMG_Dallas in Mean Green Football
    3. 6

      FIRE THE ELF

      Isn't that how you get a banner behind a plane?
      untphd in Mean Green Football
    4. 13

      Keebler has to go!

      Agreed. I would only do it again for a huge name that would excite the fan base, but make the contract heavily based on incentives over guaranteed money. For the Morris-type hires, three years with triggers to extend the contract automatically, like a conference championship buys the coach an extra year with a slight raise. Otherwise it is an annual discussion and negotiation.
      97and03 in Mean Green Football
    5. 0

      IF we have to keep Morris 🤢

      I would have already fired Morris but if he stays it needs to be with several conditions. 1) hand over play calling duties to an OC, either bringing in someone or elevating Davis or Cobbs to the position. (I think Davis already has the title but we know it is meaningless). 2) bring in a new ST coach 3) replace the strength and conditioning staff. Too many injuries this season and the team is gassed by the end of the game and getting steamrolled. 4) new DC needs to run a system that can stop the run and must be able to adapt throughout the season to account for opponents and personnel losses. And all of the above needs to be overseen by the AD’s office. And no contracts for more than one year. Obviously this means replacing most of the staff, which at its core means we should really fire Morris and bring in an experienced HC who already knows how to build a staff. But if we are being cheap, at least the assistants don’t require buy outs. I would also like to see the AD renegotiate Morris’ contract to reduce the base salary/buyout and increase the incentives for accomplishments, including bowl wins and championships.
      • 1
      • Upvote
      97and03 in Mean Green Football

  • Popular Contributors

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      15,479
    • Most Online
      1,865
    meangreen0015
    Newest Member
    meangreen0015
    Joined

  • Most Points

    1. 1
      El Paso Eagle
      El Paso Eagle
      166,984
    2. 2
      NT80
      NT80
      129,958
    3. 3
      KingDL1
      KingDL1
      128,415
    4. 4
      greenminer
      greenminer
      118,595
    5. 5
      TheReal_jayD
      TheReal_jayD
      104,984

  • Biggest Gamblers

    1. 1
      EdtheEagle
      EdtheEagle
      26,589,381
    2. 2
      UNTLifer
      UNTLifer
      4,156,819
    3. 3
      untphd
      untphd
      779,513
    4. 4
      flyonthewall
      flyonthewall
      670,422
    5. 5
      3_n_out
      3_n_out
      578,480
    6. 6
      SteaminWillieBeamin
    7. 7
      cousin oliver
      cousin oliver
      448,120
    8. 8
      meangreenfaninno
    9. 9
      South Texas Green
    10. 10
      outoftown
      outoftown
      314,541

WE BELIEVE IN THE MEAN GREEN!

News

Recruiting

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Please review our full Privacy Policy before using our site.