I'm Done

eulesseagle · October 11, 2009

The past two seasons some of the fire TD crew whined about the massive amount of points that were scored against the reminence of coach DD. Bottom of the barrel in "O" and "D" for the last two gave plenty of you ammo for your scathing hyperbole. Now NT lost to Ohio by "ONE" and lost by "FOUR" in the last seconds to lala. NT's "O" is immensley improved ..... probably in the 70's range in offense and the "D" probably higher. Redshirt RD is doing and learning the curve and IMHO is doing a great job. Yea, he makes freshman mistakes....so what.....???? does anyone expect him to play like a junior or senior???

Coach Dodge has brought in some fantastic talent and they are, now begining to pay off. Some of the fire TD crowd will never be satisfied no matter what type of team NT fields. One satisfying fact is that there are way more supporters of TD than the fire TD knee jerkers. If you want something fast go to Burger King's drive through.....unfortunately, recruiting, rebuilding and winning takes a little longer than the length of time than coach TD has been here.

Heck, I wish NT/RV could give him a contract extention and raise after this year.....because he deserves it.

GreenStreet · October 11, 2009

todd is NOT the reason they lost tonight! it's riley's fault! three int's and a fumble. no way ull should have been in the game tonight!

Todd should know when to pull his son.

GreenStreet · October 11, 2009

This one doesn't sound like it's on TD. So maybe this thread is a bit of a knee-jerk. Plus I'm not sure we're at a place as a program where we're able to call for the coach's head after every loss- especially when we want to build him a bronze statue after every win. Just saaaayiiiinnnn....

Can we get rid of him based on age? or is that just at FSU..

GreenStreet · October 11, 2009

I agree with many others in that this team is light years ahead of last year's team. If you can't see that then you weren't watching the previous two seasons. The adjustments made and talent compiled by coach's Dodge and Deloach is very telling to me. Give Deloach another season and we very well may find ourselves next to the top defensively......again as it was before he left for UCLA.
But that will only happen when as an offense we learn to control and manage the clock when time requires it. There were two series last night I remember in which if we simply snap the ball and fall down rather than trying to pass ULL ends up with no timeouts and not enough time to make their final drive. When you have a ten point lead there's no reason to hurry up and snap the ball to pass. This will come with time as this very young team and their coaching staff grow together.
Lastly, please keep in mind, that is Todd Dodge on the sidelines, not The Buick. He has already proven to us all that he will learn from his mistakes and make changes where needed to succeed and build for the future.
Rick

My question is what will we be saying next year?

UNT90 · October 11, 2009

Heck, I wish NT/RV could give him a contract extention and raise after this year.....because he deserves it.

Dude, lets not get crazy. He has proven he can recruit, but not yet that he can win. Let's see what this year and the next hold before doing anything either way.

TheTastyGreek · October 11, 2009

My question is what will we be saying next year?

My guess? Either:

1) Man, what a great job our new OC, __________, did in his first year to put us over the top again. Good thing we brought that guy in here.

Or:

2) Coach Kragthrope just oversaw one of the greatest single season turnarounds in NCAA history... AGAIN! How lucky for us that Louisville let him go and we were able to snap him up at just the right time.

A guy can dream... :wub:

GoMeanGreen1999 · October 11, 2009

My guess? Either:
1) Man, what a great job our new OC, __________, did in his first year to put us over the top again. Good thing we brought that guy in here.
Or:
2) Coach Kragthrope just oversaw one of the greatest single season turnarounds in NCAA history... AGAIN! How lucky for us that Louisville let him go and we were able to snap him up at just the right time.
A guy can dream...

Where is Todd Ford going? :ph34r:

TheTastyGreek · October 11, 2009

Where is Todd Ford going?

You don't stand pat on the problems we're still having in year 3.

GoMeanGreen1999 · October 11, 2009

You don't stand pat on the problems we're still having in year 3.

Yea but what happens when that problem is Quonier?

NTEX1990 · October 12, 2009

Ease up, everyone.
Look, for those of us who said this would be a 3 or 4 win season, and that we'd be happy with being more competitive...that's what this season is. During the offseason and after beating Ball State, many of you who are now frustrated tried to make this team into something it isn't.
The truth is, this is a 3 or 4 win team. That's fine this year as long as we are competitive. I know this is going to sound weird coming from me, but you can't knee jerk right now. You have to put this thing into context:
(1) Dodge has handcuffed himself by not signing any true QBs except Giovanni Vizza, and now he's gone. Riley isn't great, but the guys behind him...well, two walk-ons and a guy who played at Glen Rose? Come one. He can't pull Riley now, even if he wanted to. He's got nothing behind him. It's his own fault, yes. But, it's the hard fact that became reality when Vizza transferred down to A&M.
(2) The defense is keeping this team competitive. And, until yesterday, so was the special teams. And, even with the off night punting, the special teams was still doing well on kick returns. Remember, we just finished two season where no part of the special teams worked at any time in almost every game. Without the turnovers, this defense wins the game for us easily.
Now, look...it's no secret that I'm no fan of the hire of Todd Dodge. But, this thing can be fixed, I believe if two things are done...after the season ends:
(1) Todd Dodge has got to bite the bullet and get college coaches to round out the offensive side of the ball. Look at the defense and special teams. The improvement since Mendoza and Drake were jettisoned is immense. We have got to have an offensive coordinator and wide receivers coach who can put the offense on the next level as well. Whether or not the two guys there now are nice is irrelevent. They've got to go. We'd be 4-1 if the offense was taking care of the ball...that includes not just protecting it, but also getting open more often and making catches/fighting for the ball.
(2) Todd Dodge has got to sign two bona fide quarterbacks to come in here and compete with Riley for the starting job. One has to be a JUCO, and the other has to be a bona fide, pass first, passer. And, these guys need to be tall and bigger. We've got no option but to stick with Riley now, as ugly as it is going to be at times. But, the guy is taped up from head to toe already after just four games this season. He cannot endure it for four seasons. And, he doesn't have a deep ball arm to back off a defense. He just doesn't. You can argue that he does from here to eternity, but he doesn't. The 2010 signing class needs two QBs: A JUCO and a prep - both at least 6'2" and 215+ with strong arms.
Other than that. Hang in there. Before the season, I predicted that we'd beat FAU. I stand by that prediction. The Owls lost nine starters from their 2009 defense plus their top two running backs. They have a good QB, but he can't play defense and tailback. We have no excuse not to beat this FAU team and I think we will.
Think about Dodge, too, you all. He's put himself in a position to where he's going to have to hurt the feelings of guys he's know personally for many years if he's to turn this thing completely around. But, if he can go ahead and do it, we will certainly be in the title hunt in 2010.

i would let off the walk on CRAP.

Tune earned a scholly almost immediately

Baine turned down a hald dozen schollys to play baseball (including air force, navy and Buffalo)

Quoner · October 12, 2009

You don't stand pat on the problems we're still having in year 3.

Quoner reminds me of Romo.

This recap is going to be fun.

Rudy · October 12, 2009

Meanwhile June Jones has SMU 2-0 in Conference USA in only his second season. And Jones just needs one more win to equal the 4 wins dodge now has in 3 1/2 seasons.

Wow, why dont you give JJ a call and see if his wife is gone so you can go over there with your kneepads. Please tell me you are not REALLY an NT alum.

untbowler · October 12, 2009

Wow, why dont you give JJ a call and see if his wife is gone so you can go over there with your kneepads. Please tell me you are not REALLY an NT alum.

Guess truth sucks for UNT fans some, time to put the Kool-Aid down. Jones has SMU playing better in season #2, while we are now sayinh wait until Season 4.

JayDub · October 12, 2009

Wow, why dont you give JJ a call and see if his wife is gone so you can go over there with your kneepads. Please tell me you are not REALLY an NT alum.

*facepalm*

What untbowler said...

Edited October 12, 2009 by JayDub

NT03 · October 12, 2009

Wow, why dont you give JJ a call and see if his wife is gone so you can go over there with your kneepads. Please tell me you are not REALLY an NT alum.

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Green P1 · October 12, 2009

For some unexplainable reason I'm still a Dodge supporter.... but anyone who thinks he is anywhere near the caliber of JJ is a football moron. That being said, I hate that scumbag pony trash coach.

Edited October 12, 2009 by Green P1

Rudy · October 12, 2009

I never said that Dodge is a better coach, or that I wouldnt rather have JJ. My problem is Pen Yen has some gay man crush on him, and its really annoying. This post had NOTHING to do with JJ, yet he still shoehorned him in.

+23

JayDub · October 12, 2009

+23

-47

You're not allowed to give yourself points.

Rudy · October 12, 2009

Awww, come on, you cant flag me if I dont know the rules.

shaft · October 12, 2009

Is this the place where I officially get to say "I told you so."

The Dodge era is the worst in school history.

Rudy · October 12, 2009

Is this the place where I officially get to say "I told you so."
The Dodge era is the worst in school history.

No, the official place is New Mexico where DD is.

eulessismore · October 12, 2009

For some unexplainable reason I'm still a Dodge supporter.... but anyone who thinks he is anywhere near the caliber of JJ is a football moron. That being said, I hate that scumbag pony trash coach.

That's not far from what the guys on Ponyfans were saying...LAST WEEK! Oh yeah, and Bo Levi Mitchell is NOT the answer at quarterback.

Rudy · October 12, 2009

That's not far from what the guys on Ponyfans were saying...LAST WEEK! Oh yeah, and Bo Levi Mitchell is NOT the answer at quarterback.

Dont stop bo-levi'ing.

That little bit ruined that song. Journey should sue SMU

Got5onIt · October 12, 2009

For some unexplainable reason I'm still a Dodge supporter.... but anyone who thinks he is anywhere near the caliber of JJ is a football moron. That being said, I hate that scumbag pony trash coach.

Soo, comparing Dodge to his peers is not applicable??? Why???

eulessismore · October 12, 2009

Wow, why dont you give JJ a call and see if his wife is gone so you can go over there with your kneepads. Please tell me you are not REALLY an NT alum.

Rudy, not jumping on board with your concept one way or the other, but I did just get a laugh recalling how someone of THAT board was telling someone who mentioned UNT and Dodge's win at Ball State words to the effect "you still have a hard weenie for Dodge". Hope that's not being too crude. Just thinking about how deja vu things can seem at times.