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Jon Stewart Vs Glenn Beck

Any Glenn Beck fans out there? He really should set the record straight on these malicious attacks.

Glenn Beck is a quack. He deserves any criticism that comes his way. Hopefully he enrolls in the UNT Radio,TV, and Film program and learns how to conduct an interview instead of talking down to his guests that he disagrees with, or talking over everyone that he has on. Screw him.

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The Olbermanns, Hannitys, O'Reillys, Maddows and Becks of the TV world are more likely to say something that will anger a viewer, who might take it out on sponsors.

I can see how this is a concern for those who actually have viewers tuning in, and how it probably is not for those who only wished they did.

Fox News Continues to dominate Cable News Ratings.

Rick

Edited by FirefightnRick
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is the real question an attempt at censorship?

If you make a point to ignore every time your side does the same thing, then yes.

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please give examples.

Letterman/Palin

You're really going to drag on a debate on whether the practice of boycotting sponsors is a brand new, partisan thing? This gets dumber every day.

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is the real question an attempt at censorship?

I don't think that's the case at all. Advertisers align themselves with products/personalities they think are positive for their product and are viewed positively by their intended targets. Clearly these advertisers felt that with this individual that was no longer the case. Same way that I doubt wal-mart or some gun manufacturer is going to run advertisements during Olbermann.

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So I have to ask. Why would you watch any of them? If the consensus here is that Glenn Beck is a total fool. What makes you think the other pundits are any different? It is all unabashed demographic pandering yet so many watch on a religious basis. Ratings are through the roof and have been for a long time. I worry that as a nation we are outsourcing our ability to think for ourselves.

Scroll through the pundits section on Politifact. Then ask yourself why you would seriously allow these people to sway you on any issue. Better yet why would you even bother to listen.

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I think that the only reason anyone listens to these people is because it makes figuring out what is going on n the country, based on that person's opinion, so much easier than paying attention and looking for yourself. However, if you are paying attention you are listening to someone, somewhere, who has an agenda and a political point of view. If our government would make it easier for us common folks to understand what it is that is going on and perhaps write things in a way that doesn't include random lawyer speak, other confusing rhetoric, 1000 page documents etc then perhaps it will be easier for the unclean masses to figure out what the hell is going on.

That essentially boils down to our ability to trust the government and I would be wiling to bet that the majority of this country doesn't trust the government and based on what we all have seen in our life times, we shouldn't. That is the main problem IMO we all sit here and complain about political pundits, people forming opinions based on editorials and their views, MSNBC, FOX News and their inherent biases and we sit here the entire time thinking that my biased information is better than your biased information... You are wrong and I am right.... Huntington post vs world net...etc. it is sad really.

The problem has become that paying attention and being informed in today's climate is practically a full time job in its own right. Hell we have members of Congress who don't even have time to read bills or show up to vote. If the elected, who's full time job is paying attention, can't do it then how the hell can we? This large amount of confusion and the built up distrust of our elected officials make these pundits thrive because I think that there really is a desire in this country to know what is going on, but most of us don't have time to really dig in and figure it out for ourselves. We can figure it out on the surface for the most part, some of us like the public option and some of us don't. IF we trusted our government that would be the end of it, we would spend time discussing the values of each. But we don't trust our elected types, so we look for the evil inherent in the opposition to our opinion. Some think the repubs are in bed with the insurance companies and find any info to back that up and on the other hand some think that the dems are using the public option as a back door into socialized medicine and will find any means to back that up... No Trust, all of it based on an opinion that I feel could be a very civil conversation in the arena of ideas, with trust.

I feel that we need politicians in office that we can trust, that back up their opinions and promises with action and that make legislation that the public can read. If that were to happen Beck and Olbermann would not be needed. I look forward to that but i don't believe that will ever happen, too many people with so many opinions and the spoils of power are looming over the heads of our elected officials in high office.

I digress.... In short Beck is no worse than Olbermann, no worse than Maddow or Dick Hunter on the local Dallas scene. All of them exist because their is that basic distrust of the government.

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I think that the only reason anyone listens to these people is because it makes figuring out what is going on n the country, based on that person's opinion, so much easier than paying attention and looking for yourself. However, if you are paying attention you are listening to someone, somewhere, who has an agenda and a political point of view. If our government would make it easier for us common folks to understand what it is that is going on and perhaps write things in a way that doesn't include random lawyer speak, other confusing rhetoric, 1000 page documents etc then perhaps it will be easier for the unclean masses to figure out what the hell is going on.

That essentially boils down to our ability to trust the government and I would be wiling to bet that the majority of this country doesn't trust the government and based on what we all have seen in our life times, we shouldn't. That is the main problem IMO we all sit here and complain about political pundits, people forming opinions based on editorials and their views, MSNBC, FOX News and their inherent biases and we sit here the entire time thinking that my biased information is better than your biased information... You are wrong and I am right.... Huntington post vs world net...etc. it is sad really.

The problem has become that paying attention and being informed in today's climate is practically a full time job in its own right. Hell we have members of Congress who don't even have time to read bills or show up to vote. If the elected, who's full time job is paying attention, can't do it then how the hell can we? This large amount of confusion and the built up distrust of our elected officials make these pundits thrive because I think that there really is a desire in this country to know what is going on, but most of us don't have time to really dig in and figure it out for ourselves. We can figure it out on the surface for the most part, some of us like the public option and some of us don't. IF we trusted our government that would be the end of it, we would spend time discussing the values of each. But we don't trust our elected types, so we look for the evil inherent in the opposition to our opinion. Some think the repubs are in bed with the insurance companies and find any info to back that up and on the other hand some think that the dems are using the public option as a back door into socialized medicine and will find any means to back that up... No Trust, all of it based on an opinion that I feel could be a very civil conversation in the arena of ideas, with trust.

I feel that we need politicians in office that we can trust, that back up their opinions and promises with action and that make legislation that the public can read. If that were to happen Beck and Olbermann would not be needed. I look forward to that but i don't believe that will ever happen, too many people with so many opinions and the spoils of power are looming over the heads of our elected officials in high office.

I digress.... In short Beck is no worse than Olbermann, no worse than Maddow or Dick Hunter on the local Dallas scene. All of them exist because their is that basic distrust of the government.

Well said. However I would not hesitate to say Beck is worse than Olbermann and Maddow....he is a sideshow at the carnival! .....Us-Anti-birthers...give no street cred at all to Glenn Beck. We do like a lively debate with O'Reilley and Hannity.

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Big Beck: Goes over 3 million viewers, beats O’Reilly in demo: Cable News Ratings for Wednesday, August 26, 2009

Though a little scandal might alienate advertisers, it’s pure ratings gold. Last night Glenn Beck had over 3 million viewers at 5pm, second only to O’Reilly for the night. But, Beck had more 25-54 viewers than O’Reilly (888K to 876K). I don’t watch or really even care about the cable news wars, but still…wow. Even though Beck airs before primetime, when there are fewer people watching TV, he had the most 25-54 viewers in the cable news world for the night.

Rick

Edited by FirefightnRick
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I think next week he might beat "The Mentalist".....anyway this just proves the point that he is a sideshow carnival......

I think the definition of a good patriot to our country is one who can say what they believe and stand firm behind what our nation is trying to do. No one wants to take away any of our freedoms. But the myths and fear this person puts into the sheep who watch him and believe him....

I really do think he is an ass-clown....I mean for real does this guy make any points? In a structured debate, I really don't like his chances against any person with knowledge of how a company or government work.

Here is your assignment .... Get me a clip of Beck giving praise to the current administration. I mean can I really predict that our President will do nothing good for our country?

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I think next week he might beat "The Mentalist".....anyway this just proves the point that he is a sideshow carnival......

I think the definition of a good patriot to our country is one who can say what they believe and stand firm behind what our nation is trying to do. No one wants to take away any of our freedoms. But the myths and fear this person puts into the sheep who watch him and believe him....

I really do think he is an ass-clown....I mean for real does this guy make any points? In a structured debate, I really don't like his chances against any person with knowledge of how a company or government work.

Here is your assignment .... Get me a clip of Beck giving praise to the current administration. I mean can I really predict that our President will do nothing good for our country?

Why does someone have to praise, or agree with the current administration to be a patriot? During the Bush years there were plenty of people protesting and disagreeing with administration policy in the wars and elsewhere and they were saying that they were more patriotic because they protested.

All in all, a patriot doesn't have to fall into a political category and doesn't have to blindly follow the nations leader. Isn't a patriot is someone with an extraordinary love of country and is willing to fight for his country, or someone that takes the promise of his country and realizes it in his own life / industry? Within means dictated by law of course. It matters not what his beliefs are but more where is heart is in relation to country.

Above all, these pundits are capitalists that have found a cord to pull that brings them money. Olbermann, Maddow, Beck, Hannity etc. all of them are capitalists and I applaud them for that. That is the American dream, find a niche and fill it, work hard, make money. Noting more patriotic than that.

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I think next week he might beat "The Mentalist".....anyway this just proves the point that he is a sideshow carnival......

I think the definition of a good patriot to our country is one who can say what they believe and stand firm behind what our nation is trying to do. No one wants to take away any of our freedoms. But the myths and fear this person puts into the sheep who watch him and believe him....

I really do think he is an ass-clown....I mean for real does this guy make any points? In a structured debate, I really don't like his chances against any person with knowledge of how a company or government work.

Here is your assignment .... Get me a clip of Beck giving praise to the current administration. I mean can I really predict that our President will do nothing good for our country?

So in your oppinion someone has to give praise to the current administration in order to be a good patriot. And I thought all they had to do was pay their fair share of taxes as VP Biden put it? By the way, on August 21st?, 22nd maybe? Orielly's ratings beat the entire NBC network that evening. No matter what, that is amazing.

Rick

Edited by FirefightnRick

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