Very Disappointed In Nt's Students

SUMG · July 27, 2009

Somehow......University of DePauw and University of North Dakota made the list. What do I have to take 3 hours a semester.....just to help our ranking?:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090727/ap_on_...ty_schools_list

oldguystudent · July 27, 2009

You see the partying students come out of the woodwork for football season, but other than that they seem to really keep to themselves. I think you can look at the timeline kinda like this:

pre 1985: Texas drinking age is 18, students across campus are drinking beer, strumming guitars, and smoking the occasional left handed cigarette.

1985-1998ish: The drinking age is 21, but universities across the nation recognize that students drink. It's the dirty little secret across campus. Students migrate from Fry St. to the porches of fraternity houses where they drink beer, strum guitars, and smoke the occasional left handed cigarette.

1998ish-present: The exponential growth of civil lawsuits creates huge liability for college campuses. Response is a sudden and total police state against underaged student drinking. Police roam the parking lot of Fouts checking IDs to make sure that students aren't drinking beer. Fraternity houses are dry in common areas, so only students over the age of 21 can drink in their own rooms and only if no person under 21 is allowed in the room. Students learn how to sneak the beer into friends' apartments where they drink underground, don't play guitars because it will draw attention, and find relief that it's a hell of a lot easier to get boatloads of left handed cigarettes than it is to get a six-pack of beer.

And this, not the students' lack of desire to party, is what I think makes UNT the quiet campus that it is.

That said, I've just found out that my fraternity is going to reform on campus this fall. That'll give me 30-40 young minds to mold..(evil laugh)

KingDL1 · July 27, 2009

I agree with oldguystudent, and I also think we are too close to Dallas and Fort Worth to be a full blown party school. Too many head into town for the weekend.

But what is really surprising is Tech, and Texas State were not on the list which makes me wonder about the validity of this survey and list.

SUMG · July 27, 2009

I agree with oldguystudent, and I also think we are too close to Dallas and Fort Worth to be a full blown party school. Too many head into town for the weekend.
But what is really surprising is Tech, and Texas State were not on the list which makes me wonder about the validity of this survey and list.

Well I was being facetious to begin with. But as to the contention that we're too close to Dallas to be a full blown party school....in the 1970s...we were named #1 Party School in the nation by Playboy Magazine.

oldguystudent · July 27, 2009

Well I was being facetious to begin with. But as to the contention that we're too close to Dallas to be a full blown party school....in the 1970s...we were named #1 Party School in the nation by Playboy Magazine.

Haha! I always love a good urban legend!

The magazine Playboy has published a list of party schools four times: in 1987, 2002, 2006 and 2009.[5]The 1987 list included forty schools, with sixteen honorable mentions; California State University, Chico ranked first, a distinction that, according to the magazine, some students considered a burden.[6] In 2002, the list featured twenty-five schools and ten honorable mentions and was topped by Arizona State University.[7] The University of Wisconsin-Madison placed first among ten schools in 2006,[8] and in 2009, the University of Miami gained the top spot out of 25, ranking highest in the "brains" category, as well as in the "bikini" category.[5]
It is widely believed that Playboy released additional lists of party schools in the past, but this claim has been debunked by Snopes.com.[7] Playboy did describe the University of Wisconsin as "the party school" in a September 1968 issue, and deemed the University of California, Los Angeles "tops in campus action" in 1976. However, the magazine did not actually rank schools until January 1987.[9]
In 2009, Playboy announced it'd make the list an annual feature in the magazine.

As for Chico on that first list, that place was downright insane back in the day. Sadly, they dropped football, killed a few students every year from alcohol poisoning, and the administration came and cracked down hard, and I do mean hard, on student drinking. But oh dear lord was that place a rockin' in its heyday.

KingDL1 · July 27, 2009

Well I was being facetious to begin with. But as to the contention that we're too close to Dallas to be a full blown party school....in the 1970s...we were named #1 Party School in the nation by Playboy Magazine.

Did North Texas live up to to hype? Sounds great!

eulessismore · July 28, 2009

Did North Texas live up to to hype? Sounds great!

I thought it did. Of course, as we all know, there was no tailgating in those days. I've wondered if, considering those who don't inside the stadium to watch the game, if UNT tailgating isn't now the biggest outdoor party in Texas north of Austin. Back in those days, big parties were called "keggers" and held out in the country with big bonfires.

And the alternative cigarette scene? I think Denton, and Denton County, were more than small players. Many of you may recall a guy named Rex Cauble, head of the "Texas Mafia" before he got busted. Somewhere I read that when he got busted, the amount seized was the record at that time.

Oh, I just knew there had to be a UNT link there somewhere: Alumni, Rex Cauble donated the Model A Ford, known as the "Green Machine" to North Texas:

Scroll down to read about Cauble's "Green Machine" donation.

Edited July 28, 2009 by eulessismore

UNT_playmaker · July 28, 2009

Yeah I always thought UNT could have the big potnential to be a big party school, but nope....

The frats are deserted, the sorority houses at UNT look abandoned, and Fry st was destroyed for no apparent reason.

Somebody should do a panty raid at all the UNT sorority houses, just for the fun of it...

oldguystudent · July 28, 2009

The frats are deserted, the sorority houses at UNT look abandoned,

I don't know about that. The physical houses maybe, but the membership is strong and I definitely see my share of hung over Greeks coming to class. They're partying somewhere, just not in their own houses. Johnny rent-a-cop would come down on them for that. One thing I do notice though is that I never see any greek party events announced on campus. Back in my time, you knew every week who was throwing what party. It was plastered all over campus in giant, poorly drawn signage. The catch was that you didn't know where the parties would be. For that you needed to get yourself an invite. Maybe that's all gone by the wayside too now. No advertising of fun allowed?

Actually, if I look at my fraternity's national website, you're apparently supposed to have pre-printed guest lists for all parties now, and there has to be some ratio of members to non-members. Liability truly is the name of the game, which is lamentable. I mean, if one can't learn professional grade ked stand technique, why else would one want to join a fraternity? Leadership skills, philanthropy, business education, personal growth and lifelong friendship? P'shaw I say!

and Fry st was destroyed for no apparent reason.

Luxury apartments, man! Let's gentrify those rowdy kids!

Somebody should do a panty raid at all the UNT sorority houses, just for the fun of it...

Sounds like a one-way express ticket to the sexual offender's registry to me. No thanks.

KingDL1 · July 28, 2009

I don't know about that. The physical houses maybe, but the membership is strong and I definitely see my share of hung over Greeks coming to class. They're partying somewhere, just not in their own houses. Johnny rent-a-cop would come down on them for that. One thing I do notice though is that I never see any greek party events announced on campus. Back in my time, you knew every week who was throwing what party. It was plastered all over campus in giant, poorly drawn signage. The catch was that you didn't know where the parties would be. For that you needed to get yourself an invite. Maybe that's all gone by the wayside too now. No advertising of fun allowed?
Actually, if I look at my fraternity's national website, you're apparently supposed to have pre-printed guest lists for all parties now, and there has to be some ratio of members to non-members. Liability truly is the name of the game, which is lamentable. I mean, if one can't learn professional grade ked stand technique, why else would one want to join a fraternity? Leadership skills, philanthropy, business education, personal growth and lifelong friendship? P'shaw I say!
Luxury apartments, man! Let's gentrify those rowdy kids!
Sounds like a one-way express ticket to the sexual offender's registry to me. No thanks.

So in short they are slowly but surely taking all the fun out College.

Edited July 28, 2009 by KingDL1

aztecskin · July 28, 2009

So in short they are slowly but surely taking out all the fun out College.

Fun? Who said college was supposed to be fun?

I know I came to harness the power of ideas through a culture of learning based on diverse viewpoints, interdisciplinary endeavors, creativity and disciplined excellence.This is accomplished through a broad and balanced array of programs where well-prepared students and dedicated scholars and artists collaborate with UNT local and global communities in the creation, integration, application and dissemination of knowledge. In this way, UNT creates an enriched and sustainable future for our students, state, nation and world.

I mean, didn't we all?

KingDL1 · July 28, 2009

Fun? Who said college was supposed to be fun?
I know I came to harness the power of ideas through a culture of learning based on diverse viewpoints, interdisciplinary endeavors, creativity and disciplined excellence.This is accomplished through a broad and balanced array of programs where well-prepared students and dedicated scholars and artists collaborate with UNT local and global communities in the creation, integration, application and dissemination of knowledge. In this way, UNT creates an enriched and sustainable future for our students, state, nation and world.
I mean, didn't we all?

I am sure that most everyone but me was in it just for serious academic achievement, and well those degenerates that partook in the debauchery with me.

I think we called it multitasking, but I wanted the whole enchilada, the full meal deal with dessert, the degree the beer and coeds, and when I was at UNT and Rush parties were still wet, wow!

I miss those days, and I am sad that they took it away. Damn Libs!!!