9th Circuit Judge:

eulesseagle · June 14, 2009

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31344672/ns/wo...news-terrorism/

1. this should be the time that the U.S. Supreme Court jumps in.

2. sort of a circumous route to finally get at the Bush attorneys, again.

3. just this last week, B. Hussain Obama, wants terrorist combatants to be given "Miranda Rights." SaY WhAt YoU sAy? let me get this straight.....our guys are in a pitch battle of kill or be killed........ok, you capture a guy with a towel around his head, dressed in a madrass dress, smells like he just copulated with a camel and hasn't shaved in a while......."you have the right to remain silent..ect ect ect.......do you understand your rights?" so are we goin' to have to set up some sort of U.S. court system overseas and how about the right to a free (tax payer supported )attorney. how would you like to have that job?

EagleD · June 14, 2009

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31344672/ns/wo...news-terrorism/
3. just this last week, B. Hussain Obama, wants terrorist combatants to be given "Miranda Rights." SaY WhAt YoU sAy? let me get this straight.....our guys are in a pitch battle of kill or be killed........ok, you capture a guy with a towel around his head, dressed in a madrass dress, smells like he just copulated with a camel and hasn't shaved in a while......."you have the right to remain silent..ect ect ect.......do you understand your rights?" so are we goin' to have to set up some sort of U.S. court system overseas and how about the right to a free (tax payer supported )attorney. how would you like to have that job?

Newt Gingrich called this worse than anything Carter ever did. But wait, it started under ...wait for it...George W. Bush!

From Olbermann:

After a report that President Obama quietly ordered FBI agents to read Miranda rights to high-value detainees captured or held at US detention facilities in Afghanistan, Gingrich promptly called this unimaginable. “It‘s worst than anything Jimmy Carter ever did. It‘s worst than anything President Bill Clinton did.”
Three hours earlier, Fox News had reported that this policy of reading some detainees Miranda rights had begun in July 2008, under President Bush. So, first, Newt Gingrich called Ronald Reagan, and said he was guilty of intellectual nonsense. Now, he says something he did was worse than anything—something Bush did was worse than something Jimmy Carter ever did, worse than anything Bill Clinton ever did. Gee, Newt, Reagan and Bush in one week. I wouldn‘t even go there.

KingDL1 · June 14, 2009

Newt Gingrich called this worse than anything Carter ever did. But wait, it started under ...wait for it...George W. Bush!
From Olbermann:

And Obama and crew are just opening the flood gates, Obama has no idea what he is getting into.

meangreendork · June 14, 2009

So now the whole detainee system has been contradictory for like a year and change. Awesome. Don't treat them like POWs, but then treat them like regular civil prisoners.

Pick one, please. Padilla essentially gave up his citizenship when he decided to work for Al Qaeda.

By the way, nice Miranda Rights policy, Bush. Ugh.

Edited June 14, 2009 by meangreendork

UNT90 · June 14, 2009

Newt Gingrich called this worse than anything Carter ever did. But wait, it started under ...wait for it...George W. Bush!
From Olbermann:

The only way miranda would apply is if the FBI were interviewing a US Citizen about a crime committed inside the US. That is most likely what Bush ordered, hence the "certain detainees" in that quote. It would make no legal sense to expand this to non-US citizens committing crimes outside the US and being detained in a foreign country/

Didn't even read the 9th Circuit's BS. They have embarrassed themselves for years as the most overturned circuit court in history.

Travis · June 14, 2009

So now the whole detainee system has been contradictory for like a year and change. Awesome. Don't treat them like POWs, but then treat them like regular civil prisoners.
Pick one, please. Padilla essentially gave up his citizenship when he decided to work for Al Qaeda.
By the way, nice Miranda Rights policy, Bush. Ugh.

Rousseau, the well known philosopher, would make a similar argument about forfeiting your rights.

emmitt01 · June 14, 2009

ok, you capture a guy with a towel around his head, dressed in a madrass dress, smells like he just copulated with a camel and hasn't shaved in a while.......

Ding. Ding. Ding. Tell him what he's won Bob...

"You've won a beautiful bronze statue for most racist person on this board. Going far beyond the necessary language to make your point about it being silly to Mirandize terrorists you went on to generalize about middle eastern brown people. For your efforts in hyperbole and jingoism you win by a landslide."

Rudy · June 14, 2009

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31344672/ns/wo...news-terrorism/
1. this should be the time that the U.S. Supreme Court jumps in.
2. sort of a circumous route to finally get at the Bush attorneys, again.
3. just this last week, B. Hussain Obama, wants terrorist combatants to be given "Miranda Rights." SaY WhAt YoU sAy? let me get this straight.....our guys are in a pitch battle of kill or be killed........ok, you capture a guy with a towel around his head, dressed in a madrass dress, smells like he just copulated with a camel and hasn't shaved in a while......."you have the right to remain silent..ect ect ect.......do you understand your rights?" so are we goin' to have to set up some sort of U.S. court system overseas and how about the right to a free (tax payer supported )attorney. how would you like to have that job?

OH there are going to be ways around this. Trust me.

eulesseagle · June 14, 2009

Ding. Ding. Ding. Tell him what he's won Bob...
"You've won a beautiful bronze statue for most racist person on this board. Going far beyond the necessary language to make your point about it being silly to Mirandize terrorists you went on to generalize about middle eastern brown people. For your efforts in hyperbole and jingoism you win by a landslide."

oh excuse me.......what do they look like???......i thought that was a pretty accurate description. not racist just fact. facts are one thing that liberal socialist's hate the most & is usually "countered" by some trite comment about the person making the comment being racist, homophobic, christian, conservative extremist. That comes straight out of Marx and Alinski.......and emmitt.

Shuke-D · June 14, 2009

oh excuse me.......what do they look like???......i thought that was a pretty accurate description. not racist just fact. facts

Ok. This just got interesting. Facts, as you've defined them before, are indisputable pieces of data typically acquired through empirical means. Given that definition, please explain how you arrived at this particular fact you listed:

"smells like he just copulated with a camel"

I'm hoping for 'deep' ethnography.

KingDL1 · June 14, 2009

Ok. This just got interesting. Facts, as you've defined them before, are indisputable pieces of data typically acquired through empirical means. Given that definition, please explain how you arrived at this particular fact you listed:
"smells like he just copulated with a camel"
I'm hoping for 'deep' ethnography.

I can't imagine that smells too good.

meangreendork · June 14, 2009

oh excuse me.......what do they look like???......i thought that was a pretty accurate description. not racist just fact. facts are one thing that liberal socialist's hate the most & is usually "countered" by some trite comment about the person making the comment being racist, homophobic, christian, conservative extremist. That comes straight out of Marx and Alinski.......and emmitt.

Terrorists may be uneducated, but their senior leadership is not stupid.

It's fine to look like "Abu the raghead" if everyone looks the same way in Iraq. But that'll get you stopped by the authorities real fast around here.

If I want to mask myself away and make it easier for me to hit high value targets, I'm going to look like you and your next door neighbor or I'm gonna recruit easily manipulated people that look just like you or your neighbor. My plan is going raise a lot less suspicion if I have a bomb in the briefcase of a clean-shaven man than if I have it delivered by a guy that looks like Osama Bin Laden.

Who are you gonna eyeball at the next Cowboys game? The guy in the Romo jersey who had a recent haircut or the guy in tribal dress with a shemagh around his head?

Edited June 14, 2009 by meangreendork

Rudy · June 14, 2009

If I want to mask myself away and make it easier for me to hit high value targets, I'm going to look like you and your next door neighbor or I'm gonna recruit easily manipulated people that look just like you or your neighbor. My plan is going raise a lot less suspicion if I have a bomb in the briefcase of a clean-shaven man than if I have it delivered by a guy that looks like Osama Bin Laden.

Actually, I just reread his first post. I think he was referring to the terrorists over there if we are in a heated battle and capture them.

meangreendork · June 14, 2009

Good call. Had to re-read that myself.

Rudy · June 14, 2009

Makes two of us. Still BullS if terrorists can sue and have to be read their rights. But, there are ways around that.

CaribbeanGreen · June 14, 2009

Ding. Ding. Ding. Tell him what he's won Bob...
"You've won a beautiful bronze statue for most racist person on this board. Going far beyond the necessary language to make your point about it being silly to Mirandize terrorists you went on to generalize about middle eastern brown people. For your efforts in hyperbole and jingoism you win by a landslide."

You're late to the party. He pulled that off by linking directly to white supremacist message boards among other fun racist facts. Now, this. Yet, it seems to be fully sanctioned, while others get banished for months for making obviously outlandish jokes. Go figure.

UNTflyer · June 14, 2009

oh excuse me.......what do they look like???......i thought that was a pretty accurate description.

These guys didn't have towels, or beards, not wearing madrass, and probably didn't smell like camel crap.

You're free to go...

Edited June 14, 2009 by UNTflyer

Quoner · June 14, 2009

You're late to the party. He pulled that off by linking directly to white supremacist message boards among other fun racist facts. Now, this. Yet, it seems to be fully sanctioned, while others get banished for months for making obviously outlandish jokes. Go figure.

I think the quote in my signature pretty much sums up the state of the world. Let the man preach!

eulesseagle · June 15, 2009

You're late to the party. He pulled that off by linking directly to white supremacist message boards among other fun racist facts. Now, this. Yet, it seems to be fully sanctioned, while others get banished for months for making obviously outlandish jokes. Go figure.

wow, another ad hominum attack that is intellectually bankrupt from a nt grad. this is just pure bigotry for supression of speech. you have reached a new low cg.

Quoner · June 15, 2009

wow, another ad hominum attack that is intellectually bankrupt from a nt grad. this is just pure bigotry for supression of speech. you have reached a new low cg.

YES!!!

n.

The attitude, state of mind, or behavior characteristic of a bigot; intolerance.

Also, congrats on posting the first "ad hominum" attack this section of the board has seen in weeks.

Edited June 15, 2009 by Quoner

CaribbeanGreen · June 15, 2009

wow, another ad hominum attack that is intellectually bankrupt from a nt grad. this is just pure bigotry for supression of speech. you have reached a new low cg.

Okay. So, if I'm intellectually bankrupt and have reached a new low, then please simply answer me, answer all of us, these questions:

1) Do you stand by "ok, you capture a guy with a towel around his head, dressed in a madrass dress, smells like he just copulated with a camel and hasn't shaved in a while....." as what you described as a "pretty accurate description" of a suspected terrorist, despite Flyer's response to you above and common sense? Also, do you not feel this is a racist statement?

2) Do you feel that posting links to white supremacist/hate site message boards on GMG.com is an acceptable practice? Do you feel that those groups are racist groups? Do you feel that any race is in any way biologically superior to another?

Edited June 15, 2009 by CaribbeanGreen

The Fake Lonnie Finch · June 15, 2009

Don't worry. The Ninth Circuit is the most overturned court in America. The Supreme Court knocks down Ninth Circuit judgments in their sleep these days.

Shuke-D · June 15, 2009

wow, another ad hominum attack that is intellectually bankrupt from a nt grad. this is just pure bigotry for supression of speech. you have reached a new low cg.

You haven't answered my question yet (might have been lost in all the posts). How do you know what a camel smells like post-copulation? This is a fact I am not aware of. I've never been around a camel, so I wouldn't know what it smells like before and after a date. Not that I'd need this info in the immediate future(?), but it is a fact that has piqued my curiosity. Please answer the question.

keith · June 15, 2009

You haven't answered my question yet (might have been lost in all the posts). How do you know what a camel smells like post-copulation? This is a fact I am not aware of. I've never been around a camel, so I wouldn't know what it smells like before and after a date. Not that I'd need this info in the immediate future(?), but it is a fact that has piqued my curiosity. Please answer the question.

I'm pretty sure he was talking about an 18 year old camel, so I think everything is OK.

Keith

Shuke-D · June 15, 2009

I'm pretty sure he was talking about an 18 year old camel, so I think everything is OK.
Keith

That's a good point. I wouldn't want to be accused of making too much out of the situation. So long as it was a consenting camel, it's no one else's business what goes on privately.