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http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/96731...eas-from-soccer

Ok, yes, everyone knows I am a "soccer guy", but the article...see link above...did make some "interesting", if somewhat "out there" points regarding sport in the US. Forget your bias against everything soccer for a moment and take a look and see what you think. Could some of the ideas...in season tournaments, transfer rules, etc. work in the US? Might they be good for pro sport in the US? Who knows, but interesting to speculate upon none the less.

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No, No, and No.

Why should the major American pro sports....which are ten times more popular than soccer (here in the US)....take some ideas from soccer? They shouldn't.

Maybe soccer should take an idea that baseball considered a few years back. Contraction. As in every team, in every league, in every country.

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No, No, and No.

Why should the major American pro sports....which are ten times more popular than soccer (here in the US)....take some ideas from soccer? They shouldn't.

Maybe soccer should take an idea that baseball considered a few years back. Contraction. As in every team, in every league, in every country.

Typical predicatble response :lol:

I guess "some" of you just can't respect soccer and sea what its dun for the world. This kind of myopic thinking is why the World Cup is the biggest event in the world while the "Super" Bol is in danger of "folding" once the ad guys figure out how to spend money. Sheesh, I guess you can't please some folks. Besides look in our own backyard, besides soccer, theirs not two much to get excited about. At least not yet, but good things are just around the "bend." I hope you open you're eyes "before" we get there! :rolleyes:

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No, No, and No.

Why should the major American pro sports....which are ten times more popular than soccer (here in the US)....take some ideas from soccer? They shouldn't.

Maybe soccer should take an idea that baseball considered a few years back. Contraction. As in every team, in every league, in every country.

So, SUMG how closed minded can someone be? In your opinion then, American professional sports are absolutely perfect and should consider no ideas? OK, good enough. Anyone else?

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Typical predicatble response :lol:

I guess "some" of you just can't respect soccer and sea what its dun for the world. This kind of myopic thinking is why the World Cup is the biggest event in the world while the "Super" Bol is in danger of "folding" once the ad guys figure out how to spend money. Sheesh, I guess you can't please some folks. Besides look in our own backyard, besides soccer, theirs not two much to get excited about. At least not yet, but good things are just around the "bend." I hope you open you're eyes "before" we get there! :rolleyes:

Soccer still sucks, and is only popular world wide because soccer is cheap to play, and in many countries the only team sport they have to watch.

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So, SUMG how closed minded can someone be? In your opinion then, American professional sports are absolutely perfect and should consider no ideas? OK, good enough. Anyone else?

Where did I say American sports were perfect? I didn't. I just said that it's idiotic for American pro sports....which are popular to take ideas from a sport which isn't popular here.

Maybe your next post will be about how UT, A &M, Ohio State, and Tennessee....should take lessons on how to raise money for Athletics.....from UTA.

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This is not about whether you like soccer or not...believe me no one cares if you do or not...it is susposed to be about whether the US professional sports landscape could learn anything from the success another sport has had on a world-wide basis. If it is such a bad deal, I wonder why so many American Owners are rushing tobuy up the top soccer clubs in England and several have made inquiries into clubs in other countries as well?

Anyway...this was not intended to be another string of "I love vs I hate soccer" rants, but looks like some folks just can't seem to help them selves. Must be a slow Friday at work. If anyone would actually like to read the article and offer any thoughtful opinios I would be interested in hearing what you have to say...please note that I did not offer an opinion or value statement one way or the other in the hopes of seeing some real discussion.

But, these threads have a way of "going where no man has gone before" at times. I guess I can thank SUMG for de-railing it before it ever got started. Thanks, buddy! :lol:

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Typical predicatble response :lol:

I guess "some" of you just can't respect soccer and sea what its dun for the world. This kind of myopic thinking is why the World Cup is the biggest event in the world while the "Super" Bol is in danger of "folding" once the ad guys figure out how to spend money. Sheesh, I guess you can't please some folks. Besides look in our own backyard, besides soccer, theirs not two much to get excited about. At least not yet, but good things are just around the "bend." I hope you open you're eyes "before" we get there! :rolleyes:

Changing your username to Quram1 in the near future? :)

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Changing your username to Quram1 in the near future? :)

Sounds too much like Purim - and I'm really not down with anything Esther did. Or the Jews really.

I do like that it almost looks like Koran though.

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Sounds too much like Purim - and I'm really not down with anything Esther did. Or the Jews really.

I do like that it almost looks like Koran though.

Yeah. My first draft had it as Qram1. But since this particular thread just didn't feel like it was living up to the toxicity mean for the forum in general, I revised it kick to it up a notch. Bam!

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Here's what I hate:

A lesser sport would have taken the hint years ago: America was not interested.

The NASL folded. The MISL folded. The WUSA folded.

But like a drunk guy with no ride home, soccer just kept pawing at us. And against all odds, a love connection may finally be forming.

The Seattle Sounders of MLS are averaging almost 30,000 fans a game. A new women's professional league has launched. Americans have purchased more tickets than any other country to World Cup 2010 in South Africa.

And, depending on the water cooler or watering hole, American sports fans are actually talking about the pricey transfers of Cristiano Ronaldo and Kaka to Real Madrid. (Heck, the Manchester United owner blessing the $131M transfer of Ronaldo is yank tycoon Malcolm Glazer who also owns the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.)

I'm 52. This is probably the 500th article that I've read since 1970....where some gasbag wants to imply that soccer is finally catching on here.

Here are just some of the times that we were told that US soccer was the next big thing:

1) 1970s....the NASL New York Cosmos sign Pele. I may be wrong, but I don't think the NASL...even made it to the 80s.

2) Indoor soccer. That will be what wins the Americans over. There's scoring...lots of scoring. Heck Dallas won two championships. Anyone care? I did run into Tatu the other day...had a short conversation with him. Well I had to talk to him, since he was taking my money for the Super Big Gulp I had purchased. One neat thing: Upon purchase...he did throw his 7-11 smock to me.

3) July 1994.....we host the World Cup. By August of 1994...no one in America cared about the World Cup.

4) 1999---The US hosts the Women's World Cup. Soon after the women's pro league was formed. That thing folded quicker than Brandi Chastain's sports bra.

5) Oh my God!!!! Oh My God! OH My God! David Beckham is going to play for the LA Galaxy! BTW....I was next to him at a urinal once. Sorry, but there's not enough there for him to "bend it like Beckham."

Anyway, about every three years....the soccer nuts tell us their great sport is the next big thing. At least the Pro Bowlers Tour knows where they sit on the US sports food chain.

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http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/96731...eas-from-soccer

Ok, yes, everyone knows I am a "soccer guy", but the article...see link above...did make some "interesting", if somewhat "out there" points regarding sport in the US. Forget your bias against everything soccer for a moment and take a look and see what you think. Could some of the ideas...in season tournaments, transfer rules, etc. work in the US? Might they be good for pro sport in the US? Who knows, but interesting to speculate upon none the less.

I think it's funny that you are open to European ideas about how to run a sports franchise, but relatively shut off to their practice of health-care. Just sayin'. And just to make peace Pujols went deep again. High five.

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2) Indoor soccer. That will be what wins the Americans over. There's scoring...lots of scoring. Heck Dallas won two championships. Anyone care? I did run into Tatu the other day...had a short conversation with him. Well I had to talk to him, since he was taking my money for the Super Big Gulp I had purchased. One neat thing: Upon purchase...he did throw his 7-11 smock to me.

:lol::clapping:

That's some funny sheeze right there!

Rick

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Here's what I hate:

A lesser sport would have taken the hint years ago: America was not interested.

The NASL folded. The MISL folded. The WUSA folded.

But like a drunk guy with no ride home, soccer just kept pawing at us. And against all odds, a love connection may finally be forming.

The Seattle Sounders of MLS are averaging almost 30,000 fans a game. A new women's professional league has launched. Americans have purchased more tickets than any other country to World Cup 2010 in South Africa.

And, depending on the water cooler or watering hole, American sports fans are actually talking about the pricey transfers of Cristiano Ronaldo and Kaka to Real Madrid. (Heck, the Manchester United owner blessing the $131M transfer of Ronaldo is yank tycoon Malcolm Glazer who also owns the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.)

I'm 52. This is probably the 500th article that I've read since 1970....where some gasbag wants to imply that soccer is finally catching on here.

Here are just some of the times that we were told that US soccer was the next big thing:

1) 1970s....the NASL New York Cosmos sign Pele. I may be wrong, but I don't think the NASL...even made it to the 80s.

2) Indoor soccer. That will be what wins the Americans over. There's scoring...lots of scoring. Heck Dallas won two championships. Anyone care? I did run into Tatu the other day...had a short conversation with him. Well I had to talk to him, since he was taking my money for the Super Big Gulp I had purchased. One neat thing: Upon purchase...he did throw his 7-11 smock to me.

3) July 1994.....we host the World Cup. By August of 1994...no one in America cared about the World Cup.

4) 1999---The US hosts the Women's World Cup. Soon after the women's pro league was formed. That thing folded quicker than Brandi Chastain's sports bra.

5) Oh my God!!!! Oh My God! OH My God! David Beckham is going to play for the LA Galaxy! BTW....I was next to him at a urinal once. Sorry, but there's not enough there for him to "bend it like Beckham."

Anyway, about every three years....the soccer nuts tell us their great sport is the next big thing. At least the Pro Bowlers Tour knows where they sit on the US sports food chain.

The pro bowlers and golfers can help you when you need to get your nap started. Soccer suks! Once I was playing soccer during 8th grade gym and kicked at the ball at the same time the guy who was in his 4th year of 8th grade kicked (he woke up from his nap after he got picked for a team-before me). When our big toes hit that ball at the same time, it hurt like a muthah! My big toenail broke, shriveled and eventually fell off. I don't think it hurt the big guy any. You know, he couldn't pass 8th grade, but he could play soccer!

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Here's what I hate:

A lesser sport would have taken the hint years ago: America was not interested.

The NASL folded. The MISL folded. The WUSA folded.

But like a drunk guy with no ride home, soccer just kept pawing at us. And against all odds, a love connection may finally be forming.

The Seattle Sounders of MLS are averaging almost 30,000 fans a game. A new women's professional league has launched. Americans have purchased more tickets than any other country to World Cup 2010 in South Africa.

And, depending on the water cooler or watering hole, American sports fans are actually talking about the pricey transfers of Cristiano Ronaldo and Kaka to Real Madrid. (Heck, the Manchester United owner blessing the $131M transfer of Ronaldo is yank tycoon Malcolm Glazer who also owns the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.)

I'm 52. This is probably the 500th article that I've read since 1970....where some gasbag wants to imply that soccer is finally catching on here.

Here are just some of the times that we were told that US soccer was the next big thing:

1) 1970s....the NASL New York Cosmos sign Pele. I may be wrong, but I don't think the NASL...even made it to the 80s.

2) Indoor soccer. That will be what wins the Americans over. There's scoring...lots of scoring. Heck Dallas won two championships. Anyone care? I did run into Tatu the other day...had a short conversation with him. Well I had to talk to him, since he was taking my money for the Super Big Gulp I had purchased. One neat thing: Upon purchase...he did throw his 7-11 smock to me.

3) July 1994.....we host the World Cup. By August of 1994...no one in America cared about the World Cup.

4) 1999---The US hosts the Women's World Cup. Soon after the women's pro league was formed. That thing folded quicker than Brandi Chastain's sports bra.

5) Oh my God!!!! Oh My God! OH My God! David Beckham is going to play for the LA Galaxy! BTW....I was next to him at a urinal once. Sorry, but there's not enough there for him to "bend it like Beckham."

Anyway, about every three years....the soccer nuts tell us their great sport is the next big thing. At least the Pro Bowlers Tour knows where they sit on the US sports food chain.

Oh, and pay no attention to cultural phenomena in Seattle! Take it from a guy who is definitely left of center politically (except when my sister who lives in San Francisco shows up, who's so far left that everyone else in the room becomes right of Calvin Coolidge by comparison); Seattle is Communist! Yep, I lived there for a year; was wandering around the "Capitol Hill" (make sure you make that with an "o", not an "a", capitol, and what did I come across? An Enver Hoxha bookstore. Yes, this was back around 1980, but still, an entire bookstore devoted to the Stalinist leader of then Communist Albania! Mind you, the Soviet Union had dissolved, so this was post Soviet Bloc Albania. This was no Barnes and Noble in size, but still, maybe as large as Albania, and large enough to make you think, "I didn't know Enver Hoxha had written or inspired that many books".

No, patriots, feel reassured on this day after Flag Day that Seattle's contributions to the American Scene have to do with Jimi, Hendrix, grunge bands, airplanes (just say to yourself, "If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going"), software, and the only D1 football team that lost more games last year than UNT. And there may be your explanation for 30,000 at a soccer game in Seattle; the possibility of seeing a local team win.

And oh yeah, you had already bolded the relevant part, so I had to Italic it. You're not making it easy, even when I support you on this.

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I think it's funny that you are open to European ideas about how to run a sports franchise, but relatively shut off to their practice of health-care. Just sayin'. And just to make peace Pujols went deep again. High five.

Apples and oranges.

GO CARDS!

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