Liberal Taliban Issues Fatwa Against Miss California

BeanCounterGrad'03 · May 19, 2009

Just to prove a point, when I was getting documentation for my marriage license in Korea, I had to go to the US Consulate to get a Consul signature on a declaration of marriage. He stamped it with this red ink thing called a do-jang (signatures are worthless on Korean legal documents. do-jangs take their place) and explained to me that the wife and I would be officially married when his Korean counterpart put his Korean do-jang on the document. This was to take place over a month before the wedding. I asked what good the ceremony was and he said, "The ceremony just keeps your family members happy. God himself could come down and perform the ceremony but you wouldn't be married because God doesn't have a do-jang."

How fun would life be if everyone had to put their do-jang on documents before they were official!?!

oldguystudent · May 19, 2009

How fun would life be if everyone had to put their do-jang on documents before they were official!?!

Life is all fun and games until someone loses a do-jang!

BeanCounterGrad'03 · May 19, 2009

Life is all fun and games until someone loses a do-jang!

Watch out for paper cuts!

Mean Green 93-98 · May 19, 2009

Goodie goodie goodie! I'm so glad you answered my question the way I knew you would.
So ... can an Agnostic, or even better, an Atheist man and woman get married if it is God that grants the right to get married?
But before you answer, I'll answer for you:
Remember, the that last phrase anyone, pastor or judge, issues before a couple is wed is the following proclamation:
“By the power vested in me by the state (or commonwealth) of [insert state name here], I now pronounce you husband and wife.” So, therefore it is the state that is granting the right of marriage, not God.

"One nation under God."

The person performing the ceremony does so by the authority of the state, and the state gets its authority from God.

And God joins every Scripturally eligible couple who decide to be married, regardless of their personal beliefs.

Edited May 19, 2009 by Mean Green 93-98

Mean Green 93-98 · May 19, 2009

NO. NO. NO.
The government does. There is no relationship between marriage and religion. If there was, you'd go to a minister to get a divorce. You don't go to a preacher for a marriage license. You go to the county clerk.
We've had this thread before.

Civil government is the minister of God (Rom. 13:1-4).

oldguystudent · May 19, 2009

Civil government is the minister of God (Rom. 13:1-4).

1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. 4For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.

Wow. God DOES love the Muslims! How else would you explain the existence of the Saudi and Taliban authorities? Kim Jong Il? Pretty righteous authority figure!

And 5...4...3...

CMJ · May 20, 2009

"One nation under God."

Which was a phrase added to the Pledge in the 1950's during the Cold War. Just like "In God We Trust" on money - neither was in original to either. Edited May 20, 2009 by CMJ