I Am Sure Half Of You Have A Problem With This Too

[Green Guy Bass]

So what problems do you have with this? Interested to hear it.

[UNTflyer]

It should have been his first decision.

[NT03]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say this thread will lead to a lock down

[SUMG]

One video that should have never been released is the one of Obama trying to bowl.

Edited May 13, 2009 by SUMG

[EagleD]

So what problems do you have with this? Interested to hear it.

I disagree with his decision.

[UNTnewbie]

The first Obama CHANGE I agree with.

[KingDL1]

They were probably not graphic enough to help his case.

Why on earth were photos taken to begin with.

[eulessismore]

They were probably not graphic enough to help his case.

Why on earth were photos taken to begin with.

A good question, but I think the digital camera being widely available at the time facilitated this in the way that photography developments just before the Civil War made Matthew Brady's work inevitable. Build it and they will shoot?

[eulesseagle]

Red Liberal perceptions of abuse are as brutal as some deviant breaking a fingernail while eating sushi.

Would anyone call the Gitmo Gut abuse? (prisoners have gained at least 20 pounds....from an earlier post)

Not worth worrying about.

[UNTLifer]

So what problems do you have with this? Interested to hear it.

None, other than he should have never de-classified the memos. I think our enemie should be scared to death of us, earned or not, and anything to weaken our defenses/national security should never be considered. Obama is quickly learning that his campaign promises are going to be hard to keep.

[KingDL1]

None, other than he should have never de-classified the memos. I think our enemie should be scared to death of us, earned or not, and anything to weaken our defenses/national security should never be considered. Obama is quickly learning that his campaign promises are going to be hard to keep.

I didn't know Obama had a hard time breaking campaign promises, the list is starting to get long.

[hickoryhouse]

I think that his change of heart is showing that he might be starting to understand how this course of action has placed our troops in greater danger in the Middle East. I am glad that he is changing his mind but I think that this is a choice that he never should have had to make, on many levels.

[CMJ]

I think Obama's public reversal is to give the Right a false victory, for ACLU will probably win in the Appeals court or SCOTUS, and if that happens Obama can wipe his hands clean and release those photos, saying how he's following the Court's orders.

Honestly, it's kinda genius.

[untbowler]

I think Obama's public reversal is to give the Right a false victory, for ACLU will probably win in the Appeals court or SCOTUS, and if that happens Obama can wipe his hands clean and release those photos, saying how he's following the Court's orders.

Honestly, it's kinda genius.

BINGO!

Obama could issue an Executive Order on the photos if he truly did not want them released. He only made the decision knowing that Press Media will fawn over him and follow him like lemmings no matter what.

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

They were probably not graphic enough to help his case.

Why on earth were photos taken to begin with.

Because you had national guard running around Iraq doing many things instead of professional soldiers. Don't get me wrong, the weekend warriors play a significant role in our military. But, when all is said and done, it's not their livelihood the way it is for the career soldier. Therefore, they are more likely to do things a professional soldier would know better than to do.

They are more likely to have stress get to them and let their emotions, good or bad, take over in an instant. The professional soldier or Marine has been broken of that those emotional stress barriers, by and large. It was national guard troops that took the original photos that came out in 2004. It was too much for them.

I've said this many times, and I'll say it again, it's a pity that some people view the military as a social program. The fact of the matter is, it's a tough job to be soldier. To think that you can be one part-time and be nearly as effective is simply wishful thinking. And, those with one foot in the military and one foot in the civilian world are going to make more judgement errors than their career counterparts.

By the way, I should qualify all comments by revealing that I have a cousin who is in the national guard and spent a year in Baghdad. I've also got friends who are career Marine and solider who served in Iraq. So, I have a tiny bit of insight based on their tales.

Edited May 14, 2009 by The Fake Lonnie Finch

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

None, other than he should have never de-classified the memos. I think our enemie should be scared to death of us, earned or not, and anything to weaken our defenses/national security should never be considered. Obama is quickly learning that his campaign promises are going to be hard to keep.

This is so true. I've said all along it would be the southern and midwestern Democrats that would have to save us from much of the bilge he wants to push on the country. He's finding that you can't just do what you want simply because you sit in the Oval Office and your party "has the numbers."

[yyz28]

There is no good that can come from releasing the pictures. We all know they are there and this happened but to release them would put our troops in increased danger. This is a good decision and I applaud the President.

...if the case gets to the courts and they try and force him to relase them, we'll see if he's really serious or if this is just a political stunt. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

I didn't know Obama had a hard time breaking campaign promises, the list is starting to get long.

--- He is just following the lead of the former Prez when he claimed to be Conservative then he took a balanced budget, messed that up and then doubled the national debt in eight years...... [ in other words he increased it as much as the previous 42 presidents...COMBINED ..... repeating...one administration ran it up as much as the 42 previous Presidents... COMBINED !!! ]

---And then some wonder why the economy is in a mess... When Obama started his campaign, he never realized how bad it would become before he took office.. How can anyone support what happened in those years...?? don't even mention Iraq.... WWII was far worse, more tragic, and much more expensive than Iraq..

------------- The truth hurts, doesn't it ? ------------

Edited May 14, 2009 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66

[KingDL1]

--- He is just following the lead of the former Prez when he claimed to be Conservative then he took a balanced budget, messed that up and then doubled the national debt in eight years...... [ in other words he increased it as much as the previous 42 presidents...COMBINED ..... repeating...one administration ran it up as much as the 42 previous Presidents... COMBINED !!! ]

---And then some wonder why the economy is in a mess... When Obama started his campaign, he never realized how bad it would become before he took office.. How can anyone support what happened in those years...?? don't even mention Iraq.... WWII was far worse, more tragic, and much more expensive than Iraq..

------------- The truth hurts, doesn't it ? ------------

No he claimed to be a compassionate conservative, what ever that is.

Just be glad Gore was not elected, he would spent 5 times the money.

[KRAM1]

--- He is just following the lead of the former Prez when he claimed to be Conservative then he took a balanced budget, messed that up and then doubled the national debt in eight years...... [ in other words he increased it as much as the previous 42 presidents...COMBINED ..... repeating...one administration ran it up as much as the 42 previous Presidents... COMBINED !!! ]

---And then some wonder why the economy is in a mess... When Obama started his campaign, he never realized how bad it would become before he took office.. How can anyone support what happened in those years...?? don't even mention Iraq.... WWII was far worse, more tragic, and much more expensive than Iraq..

------------- The truth hurts, doesn't it ? ------------

ONE MORE TIME...Bush is not the president any longer! Good grief, will these liberal folks ever get that????? It's like a small child saying "well he did it too" all the time as if that was justification for something done wrong! Grow up, read the papers and you will find out that Bush is no longer president. Time to have "your guy" step up and take a little responsibility for the mess he is making out of just about everything he and his administration touches.

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

ONE MORE TIME...Bush is not the president any longer! Good grief, will these liberal folks ever get that????? It's like a small child saying "well he did it too" all the time as if that was justification for something done wrong! Grow up, read the papers and you will find out that Bush is no longer president. Time to have "your guy" step up and take a little responsibility for the mess he is making out of just about everything he and his administration touches.

---Did the GOP forget Clinton was President and about his actions..... NOPE. What is good for one is good for the other.

---Besides we are still having to live with the problems Bush left us and some of you are now trying to push the blame onto Obama. I am not big fan of him but let us at least be honest. ... Like I said the truth hurts when it involves your hero of the past eight years. You were told what was happening.... but did not listen.

---I am far from a liberal... (few Democrats are as some try to picture them...which is gay, un-Christian, unpatriotic, or wanting to run up the debt...(which Bush did) . Personally I do support telling the truth and not invading countries on flimsy excuses which were not even true and rspending money you don't have and letting financial instutions run wild like a classroom of unsupervised kids. ..... which is exactly what they did once so many controls were removed.

--- As said above, releasing those pictures can do no good ..... and it might cause us harm... This is not about keeping any promises.... Grow up.

Edited May 15, 2009 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66

[UNT90]

--- He is just following the lead of the former Prez when he claimed to be Conservative then he took a balanced budget, messed that up and then doubled the national debt in eight years...... [ in other words he increased it as much as the previous 42 presidents...COMBINED ..... repeating...one administration ran it up as much as the 42 previous Presidents... COMBINED !!! ]

---And then some wonder why the economy is in a mess... When Obama started his campaign, he never realized how bad it would become before he took office.. How can anyone support what happened in those years...?? don't even mention Iraq.... WWII was far worse, more tragic, and much more expensive than Iraq..

------------- The truth hurts, doesn't it ? ------------

All the above amounts to is a big "Yea for my team, boo for your team". Yes, Bush overspent, so does Pres. Obama tripling what Bush did make any sense???

But then again, you can't cheer widely for your "team" if you acknowledge this fact. Complete joke of a post.

Edited May 15, 2009 by UNT90

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

All the above amounts to is a big "Yea for my team, boo for your team". Yes, Bush overspent, so does Pres. Obama tripling what Bush did make any sense???

But then again, you can't cheer widely for your "team" if you acknowledge this fact. Complete joke of a post.

--- You just don't get it.. My "team" is about what about what is best for America and being honest ...not about any party I am not about to defend Obama. He is trying correct the problems created by Bush... It may not work at all but stick around and see what happens. Doing nothing sure isn't going to work.

OVERSPENT.... ??? That is an understatement... he incresaed the national debt as much maybe more than all of the other 42 Presidents combined and you still think he was a conservative as he claimed and you defend him ... get real.

Edited May 15, 2009 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66

[UNT90]

--- You just don't get it.. My team is what is best for America and being honest ...not about any party I am not about to defend Obama. He is trying correct the problems created by Bush... It may not work at all but stick around and see what happens. Doing nothing sure isn't going to work.

I get it exactly...If you didn't have a side, you would have acknowledged the crazy spending spree by Pres. Obama in the 1st 100 days of his presidency, but you just skip right by that fact. What about the 3 trillion tag that is coming with the Socialization of the health industry? Want to address that? Or is that just another stimulus plan that we "have to have".

And you will never see me defending Bush's spending.

Ya, your not a democrat. You believe Bush lied about the war, you think Wall Street should be over-regulated, and you ignore Obama when speaking of overspending. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...

Edited May 15, 2009 by UNT90

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

I get it exactly...If you didn't have a side, you would have acknowledged the crazy spending spree by Pres. Obama in the 1st 100 days of his presidency, but you just skip right by that fact. What about the 3 trillion tag that is coming with the Socialization of the health industry? Want to address that? Or is that just another stimulus plan that we "have to have".

---Socialized medicine...?? It hasn't passed and no bill has been written. ....... and you have numbers for it.... interesting... One thing you tend to forget..the GOP tends to vote in lock-step... the Democrats don't and are more independent thinking and don't just support everything they are asked to support. .... there is a lot of opposition to it.

Edited May 15, 2009 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66