Obama In Mexico: Still Apologizing

Censored by Laurie · April 17, 2009

"I'm sorry CBL has such a big penis."

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BeanCounterGrad'03 · April 17, 2009

How does that Kool-Aid taste? In case you haven't realized it, George Bush is no longer president. It's time for Obama to take responsibility for what actions are happening today and to focus on the tough tasks ahead. Running around telling everyone to "look at me" and blaming America for all the ills of the world is NOT being a leader...it's being a apologist to curry favor...look at me...look at me, the young man cries, I am so pretty, I am so good, pick me, pick me!!!!

It has a grape taste. How does the conservative Kool-Aid taste? Looks like its been served up in mass quantities lately.

Tough talk is great when used sparingly and at the proper moments (Reagan's "tear down this wall" speech and Bush Jr.'s address to the nation right after 9/11 are great examples). But I would think you would catch more flies/international cooperation using honey/reconciliatory talk.

Edited April 17, 2009 by BeanCounterGrad'03

SilverEagle · April 17, 2009

How does that Kool-Aid taste? In case you haven't realized it, George Bush is no longer president. It's time for Obama to take responsibility for what actions are happening today and to focus on the tough tasks ahead. Running around telling everyone to "look at me" and blaming America for all the ills of the world is NOT being a leader...it's being a apologist to curry favor...look at me...look at me, the young man cries, I am so pretty, I am so good, pick me, pick me!!!!

Oh I'm well aware that the "W" is not in the white house any longer. It's what puts a smile on my face every day.......while I'm sipping that fine wine and celebrating that America put one if it's finest back in charge.

BTW, I'm going to remember this (your irrational time-line for change) the next time you are critical of people over on the football board for not giving Coach Dodge more time to get his program going. So far, it's been two years and what is his record?

Meanwhile the stock market is back up to over 8000.

Mean Green 93-98 · April 17, 2009

Meanwhile the stock market is back up to over 8000.

For the record, are you giving Obama credit for that?

SilverEagle · April 17, 2009

For the record, are you giving Obama credit for that?

Well, to use the phrase that is most used by President Obama haters.....it's on his watch. What was the stock market like when it was still on the Cheney/W watch? For that matter, what was it when President Clinton handed the county over to Lord Vader and Skippy?

Mean Green 93-98 · April 17, 2009

it's on his watch.

So noted.

SilverEagle · April 17, 2009

So noted.

Since you are going to file this away in your "I'll get Obama and all his admirers too" file, please look up what the stock market was when Clinton handed it over, and what it was when Bush handed it over to President Obama.

Mean Green 93-98 · April 17, 2009

Since you are going to file this away in your "I'll get Obama and all his admirers too" file, please look up what the stock market was when Clinton handed it over, and what it was when Bush handed it over to President Obama.

Or when the Republican congress handed over to Pelosi and her cronies?

Look, I have no problem at all with a President saying, "The buck stops here"--no problem at all. But there are a whole lot more factors involved than the President in whether the Dow rises or falls. Markets correct--they always have, and always will. They cannot rise indefinitely. If you want to give Obama credit for anything, you might note that fears of Obama's economic policies were a factor in driving down the market during the last couple months of Bush's administration.

SilverEagle · April 18, 2009

Or when the Republican congress handed over to Pelosi and her cronies?
Look, I have no problem at all with a President saying, "The buck stops here"--no problem at all. But there are a whole lot more factors involved than the President in whether the Dow rises or falls. Markets correct--they always have, and always will. They cannot rise indefinitely. If you want to give Obama credit for anything, you might note that fears of Obama's economic policies were a factor in driving down the market during the last couple months of Bush's administration.

Which is it? Markets correct on thier own, or they plunged because they are (allegedly) afraid of Obama's soon to be policies?

That statement really didn't make much sense, other than "I'm going to nail Obama no matter what happens."

Mean Green 93-98 · April 18, 2009

Which is it? Markets correct on thier own, or they plunged because they are (allegedly) afraid of Obama's soon to be policies?
That statement really didn't make much sense, other than "I'm going to nail Obama no matter what happens."

As I said, there are a lot of factors--nothing contradictory in what I wrote. You were the one determined to attribute market rises or falls to one cause, not me.

meangreendork · April 18, 2009

He's picking on one of the plays in the conservative playbook: The markets dropped during Obama's administration - His fault.

Here's how I see this being: New coach steps into office and during his first few weeks, looks at the other players, administration and fans and says, "Hey, our team wasn't so great last season. We messed up, called bad plays, had bad discipline on and off the field. Got other teams into trouble. I'm sorry. We're gonna try to fix that." And before this, in his first press conference, of course, some fans freak out at his new playbook and different coaching style. Fan faith drops (that's the analogy for the Dow/NasDAQ). Some fans are still wigging out, some have unjustified complete faith, and some are waiting until his first game to say anything.

Sounds like right after we got Dodge. A mix of all 3.

Obama's had a few months in office here. That's like barely getting past the recruiting stage, if even that far, for a new head coach. You guys wanna wait a game or two before you pass judgment? Hey, we did that with Dodge, right? Didn't we cut him a break all of his first season for having a bunch of Dickey leftovers in terms of behavioral issues? Didn't we cut him a break last year because it was 'only' his second season and that things don't turn around until season 3?

The logic doesn't work, guys. Give Obama a bit more time before you start calling him off, and keep in mind that there is a lot of old residue from previous administrations. It took...what, a whole season to rid the locker room of most of Dickey's old laundry? How much more when you look at the last 12 years of legislation from both parties? Think about it. The president has had all of enough time to warm his seat in the Oval Office. He may not even have his own pencil holder in there yet.

oldguystudent · April 18, 2009

Presidential limo stickers and black uniforms for the Secret Service.

FirefightnRick · April 18, 2009

President Obama doesn't have to do anything to make our country look bad to the rest of the world......

The U.S. only looks bad to the rest of the world until the rest of the world needs the U.S. to bail their asses out of another problem. Just wait, it's coming.

Rick

DeepGreen · April 18, 2009

President Obama doesn't have to do anything to make our country look bad to the rest of the world......Dick Cheney and his lap dog did a good enough job of that on their own.
And compared to the bumbling former occupant of the White House, President Obama is the second coming.

And we shall see how "the second coming" handles his first confrontation with Iran, or some other terrorist promoting country.

DeepGreen · April 18, 2009

Since you are going to file this away in your "I'll get Obama and all his admirers too" file, please look up what the stock market was when Clinton handed it over, and what it was when Bush handed it over to President Obama.

Clinton was in the White House at the right time. Remember the internet/pc explosion of the '90's? That fueled the stock market more than Clinton.

UNTflyer · April 18, 2009

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UNTflyer · April 18, 2009

He's picking on one of the plays in the conservative playbook: The markets dropped during Obama's administration - His fault.

Markets reflect what investors believe to be the future value of securities. Take a look at some investor publications - they're scared to death of what the Obama administration is doing.

UNTflyer · April 18, 2009

Are we seriously going to cite our treatment of native Americans as justification for apologizing to Mexico?

Are we forgetting a man by the name of Hernán Cortés?

DeepGreen · April 18, 2009

Are we seriously going to cite our treatment of native Americans as justification for apologizing to Mexico?
Are we forgetting a man by the name of Hernán Cortés?

It's all Christopher Columbus' fault.

Mean Green 93-98 · April 18, 2009

He's picking on one of the plays in the conservative playbook: The markets dropped during Obama's administration - His fault.
Here's how I see this being: New coach steps into office and during his first few weeks, looks at the other players, administration and fans and says, "Hey, our team wasn't so great last season. We messed up, called bad plays, had bad discipline on and off the field. Got other teams into trouble. I'm sorry. We're gonna try to fix that." And before this, in his first press conference, of course, some fans freak out at his new playbook and different coaching style. Fan faith drops (that's the analogy for the Dow/NasDAQ). Some fans are still wigging out, some have unjustified complete faith, and some are waiting until his first game to say anything.
Sounds like right after we got Dodge. A mix of all 3.
Obama's had a few months in office here. That's like barely getting past the recruiting stage, if even that far, for a new head coach. You guys wanna wait a game or two before you pass judgment? Hey, we did that with Dodge, right? Didn't we cut him a break all of his first season for having a bunch of Dickey leftovers in terms of behavioral issues? Didn't we cut him a break last year because it was 'only' his second season and that things don't turn around until season 3?
The logic doesn't work, guys. Give Obama a bit more time before you start calling him off, and keep in mind that there is a lot of old residue from previous administrations. It took...what, a whole season to rid the locker room of most of Dickey's old laundry? How much more when you look at the last 12 years of legislation from both parties? Think about it. The president has had all of enough time to warm his seat in the Oval Office. He may not even have his own pencil holder in there yet.

You're reading the posts wrong. It is the liberal who wants to give Obama all kinds of glory because the Dow just went over 8000.

ntmeangreen11 · April 18, 2009

There's only one solution, and people need to stop flirting around the issue.

Marijuana is less harmful to the body than tobacco or alcohol. If the United States is growing it, selling it, and making tax money off of it, no one is going to want to buy disgusting brick weed from a drug dealer(criminal)

It would solve more problems than one.

SilverEagle · April 19, 2009

There's only one solution, and people need to stop flirting around the issue.
Marijuana is less harmful to the body than tobacco or alcohol. If the United States is growing it, selling it, and making tax money off of it, no one is going to want to buy disgusting brick weed from a drug dealer(criminal)
It would solve more problems than one.

It would be a great source of tax revenue.