Ok..i'll Admit It - I Voted Democrat Because

[KingDL1]

I voted Democrat because

I love the fact that I can now marry whomever I want.

I've decided to marry my rich uncle.

I voted Democrat because

I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are

obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of gas

at 15% isn't.

I voted Democrat because

I believe the government will do a better job of

spending the money I earn than I can.

I voted Democrat because

Freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.

I voted Democrat because

When we pull out of Iraq I trust that the bad guys will stop what they're doing because they now think we're good people.

I voted Democrat because

I'm way too irresponsible to own a gun, and I know that my local police are all I need to protect me from murderers and thieves.

When seconds count, I know the police are only minutes away.

I voted Democrat because

I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday can tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away In ten years if

I don't start driving a Prius.

I voted Democrat because

I'm not concerned about the slaughter of millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

I voted Democrat because

I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as THEY see fit.

I voted Democrat because

I believe liberal judges need to rewrite The Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would never get their agendas past the voters.

I voted Democrat because

I know doubling the car tax will help revive the ailing car industry and banking system.

I voted Democrat because

My head is so firmly planted up my ass that it is unlikely that I'll ever have another point of view.

"A Liberal is a person who will give away everything they don't own."

[KRAM1]

Priceless...can't wait to see the "usual suspect" relies. It's Friday afternoon so some good fun is in order. KingDL1, you get my vote for post of the day!

[GreenBat]

You forgot the real reason you voted Democrat.

Because you have a brain and are tired of the country being F'd up by idiot conservatives.

Oh, I forgot this was an unfunny attempt at humor by an aforementioned idiot conservative.

[GreenMachine]

Oh, I forgot this was an unfunny attempt at humor by an aforementioned idiot conservative.

wow, I got banned for much less than this. We'll see how fair the punishments are handed out.

[oldguystudent]

In anticipation of that fair and balanced news bill thing they want to pass...

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[UNTflyer]

You forgot the real reason you voted Democrat.

Because you have a brain and are tired of the country being F'd up by idiot conservatives.

Oh, I forgot this was an unfunny attempt at humor by an aforementioned idiot conservative.

Thank God Obama is in charge... his bailout plan and budget proposals have driven stocks down by 20% since his inauguration. I'm looking for investment bargains when it breaks below 30%.

March 6 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama now has the distinction of presiding over his own bear market.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average has fallen 20 percent since Inauguration Day, the fastest drop under a newly elected president in at least 90 years, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The gauge has lost 53 percent from its October 2007 record of 14,164.53, slipping 4.1 percent to 6,594.44 yesterday.

More than $1.6 trillion has been erased from U.S. equities since Jan. 20 as mounting bank losses and rising unemployment convinced investors the recession is getting worse. The president is in danger of breaking a pattern in which the Dow rallied 9.8 percent on average in the 12 months after a Democrat captured the White House, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

Edited March 6, 2009 by UNTflyer

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

wow, I got banned for much less than this. We'll see how fair the punishments are handed out.

Wow.. me too... I once just used the phrase "Germany in the 30's" ... without other names and was banned for 24 hours .

______________________

--- Who was President when all of this financial meltdown started last summer and fall.???

--- Who was President when the Bank and Wall Street bailouts resulted in the CEO's taking all of those crazy bonuses..??

--- Who are in charge of Senate Banking committee that kept pushing for less government interference and controls on Wall Street and the Banking community and then wrote most of the bills that did so.?? ( Phil Gramm**, he took credit then... he still deserves it now ) .

**His wife was on the board of directors of Enron (also their audit committee) and he had done them a "lot of legislative favors" as well. He then withdrew his re-election bid.

How soon they forget...

Edited March 6, 2009 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66

[Mean Green 93-98]

You forgot the real reason you voted Democrat.

Because you have a brain and are tired of the country being F'd up by idiot conservatives.

Oh, I forgot this was an unfunny attempt at humor by an aforementioned idiot conservative.

Must agree about the "idiot conservatives" comment. When professed conservatives suck up to liberals, implement liberal policies, and (mess) up our country in so doing, they are absolute idiots.

I would have a hard time voting for Newt because of moral concerns, but he oversaw the passing of much more sensible legislation than has been done the past few years.

[BeanCounterGrad'03]

You forgot the real reason you voted Democrat.

Because you have a brain and are tired of the country being F'd up by idiot conservatives.

Oh, I forgot this was an unfunny attempt at humor by an aforementioned idiot conservative.

Don't poke the monkeys...you'll anger them and they might rip your face and hands off.

Expect a Democrat/liberal/Obama bashing thread about once everyday (some may include the label "for fun"). Its a small price to pay for having who I believe to be the right leadership in office right now.

In fairness, a few left leaning posters did this some the last 8 years, but the right on this board has a bigger megaphone (not surprising in Tejas).

Edited March 6, 2009 by BeanCounterGrad'03

[UNTBill]

I voted Democrat because

I love the fact that I can now marry whomever I want.

I've decided to marry my rich uncle.

I voted Democrat because

I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are

obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of gas

at 15% isn't.

I voted Democrat because

I believe the government will do a better job of

spending the money I earn than I can.

I voted Democrat because

Freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.

I voted Democrat because

When we pull out of Iraq I trust that the bad guys will stop what they're doing because they now think we're good people.

I voted Democrat because

I'm way too irresponsible to own a gun, and I know that my local police are all I need to protect me from murderers and thieves.

When seconds count, I know the police are only minutes away.

I voted Democrat because

I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday can tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away In ten years if

I don't start driving a Prius.

I voted Democrat because

I'm not concerned about the slaughter of millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

I voted Democrat because

I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as THEY see fit.

I voted Democrat because

I believe liberal judges need to rewrite The Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would never get their agendas past the voters.

I voted Democrat because

I know doubling the car tax will help revive the ailing car industry and banking system.

I voted Democrat because

My head is so firmly planted up my ass that it is unlikely that I'll ever have another point of view.

"A Liberal is a person who will give away everything they don't own."

I also think it was Margret Thatcher that said "Socialism won't work because eventually the socialist will run out of other peoples money"

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

Must agree about the "idiot conservatives" comment. When professed conservatives suck up to liberals, implement liberal policies, and (mess) up our country in so doing, they are absolute idiots.

I would have a hard time voting for Newt because of moral concerns, but he oversaw the passing of much more sensible legislation than has been done the past few years.

---Well I agree on the morality comment.. his affairs broke up two of his marriages and was even having one with a 29 year old secretary when the "Clinton one" hit the fan. However some of that sensible legislation you mention is now hitting the fan in the financial community because of those reduced oversights and less rules on banks and loans. .....in fairness though most of that blame should go to P. Gramm because those first came from the Senate. .

Doubt me? -- start reading this and other sourses.... McCain "fired" him from his campaign after all this came out. There is more than is stated here. note... I am not even blaming Bush for this one. I just think credit should go to those that really deserve it.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9246.html

Edited March 6, 2009 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

I also think it was Margret Thatcher that said "Socialism won't work because eventually the socialist will run out of other peoples money"

--Ah-- you read one of those crazy emails that is circulating..

I also got one at the same time supposedly from Australia saying you won't see these in American media ...the problem... check the sources on the edge of those cartoons... they are all American newspapers or websites..... the second one was from the "New Orleans Picayune" newspaper.

So much for honesty.....

Edited March 6, 2009 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66

[UNTLifer]

wow, I got banned for much less than this. We'll see how fair the punishments are handed out.

Don't question or you'll be banned.

[greenminer]

Don't question or you'll be banned.

Only if done publicly. I find they're quite personable via the message service.

There is a fun Hispanic-themed thread going on in the Non-UNT sports forum. I need some inspiration though, so get in there and fire away!

[UNTflyer]

Its a small price to pay for having who I believe to be the right leadership in office right now.

Millions of investors disagree.

[TheTastyGreek]

You people suck at having fun.

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

Millions of investors disagree.

You seemed to left off a few details.... It went down during the entire year of 2008... a full year before Obama became President.

Again the Whole Truth seems to be a problem....Look at the last number...

The Dow

Date Open High Low Close Avg Vol Adj Close*

Mar-09 7,056.48 7,056.48 6,531.28 6,594.44 9,534,909,800 6,594.44

Feb-09 8,000.62 8,376.56 6,952.06 7,062.93 7,022,036,200 7,062.93

Jan-09 8,772.25 9,175.19 7,856.86 8,000.86 5,844,561,500 8,000.86

Dec-08 8,826.89 9,151.61 8,072.47 8,776.39 5,320,791,300 8,776.39

Nov-08 9,326.04 9,711.46 7,392.27 8,829.04 6,199,530,000 8,829.04

Oct-08 10,847.40 11,022.06 7,773.71 9,336.93 7,290,362,100 9,336.93

Sep-08 11,545.63 11,831.29 10,266.76 10,850.66 7,009,506,600 10,850.66

Aug-08 11,379.89 11,933.55 11,144.59 11,543.55 4,264,482,300 11,543.55

Jul-08 11,344.64 11,820.21 10,731.96 11,378.02 5,923,937,200 11,378.02

Jun-08 12,637.67 12,652.81 11,226.34 11,350.01 4,840,303,300 11,350.01

May-08 12,818.34 13,191.49 12,397.56 12,638.32 4,039,814,700 12,638.32

Apr-08 12,266.64 13,052.91 12,208.42 12,820.13 4,113,069,000 12,820.13

Mar-08 12,264.36 12,687.61 11,650.44 12,262.89 4,661,172,000 12,262.89

Feb-08 12,638.17 12,841.88 12,006.79 12,266.39 4,148,143,000 12,266.39

Jan-08 13,261.82 13,338.23 11,508.74 12,650.36 4,925,982,300 12,650.36

Dec-07 13,368.22 13,850.92 13,059.32 13,264.82 3,299,866,500 13,264.82

Not a pretty chart.. but just look at last number. The problems started in last administration...if not why the bail out in Sept by Bush. ???

It had dropped 5200 points under Bush and 1500 since then.

The GOP people hate colleges and the mainstream media who actually check facts.

Edited March 6, 2009 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66

[UNTflyer]

You seemed to left off a few details.... It went down during the entire year of 2008... a full year before Obama became President.

Stock prices are reflection of what shareholders see as their future value. They have dropped 20% since Barack was sworn in because investors are terrified of his proposals.

Face the facts... investors have no confidence in his plan.

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

Stock prices are reflection of what shareholders see as their future value. They have dropped 20% since Barack was sworn in because investors are terrified of his proposals.

Face the facts... investors have no confidence in his plan.

---Maybe not... but he did not create this mess, removing controls and regulations on Wall Street and Banking did... and he did not do that either.

--- Your comments sort of seems like blaming the doctor for a guy's death after a serious accident... He did not cause this situation.

--- I also haven't heard any great suggestions from the other side of the aisle.... do they have any??

Edited March 6, 2009 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66

[yyz28]

Maybe not... but he did not create this mess, removing controls and regulations on Wall Street and Banking did... and he did not do that either.

--- I also haven't heard any great suggestions from the other side of the aisle.... do they have any??

Wrong. Freddie and Fannie are at the root of this, A lack of control allowd Wallstreet to run amuck, but you can't blame one and not the other. Add to that the Mark to Market regulation which is acutally making it worse, not better. Both may have LED to the recession, but this deepening is a direct result of the entire business community pulling in as this guy puts us in a deeper hole by the day. There is a reason that on days the White House is fairly quiet the market is relatively calm and when they are out there stumping for more spending and nationalizing banks and the healthcare industry the market tanks.

When are you guys gonna realize that the Government can't spend us out of this mess, and trying to will only make things worse in the long run?

...and the ideas from the other side of the isle are loud and clear - DO WHAT HAS WORKED EVERY TIME WE'VE TRIED IT. LOWER TAXES ON EVERYONE, SPEND WITH LASER BEAMS ON HIGH RETURN PROJECTS, not with a shotgun, quit putting the screws progressively tighter on the investment class and let the people have more of their money to spend.

Edited March 6, 2009 by yyz28

[oldguystudent]

All of you will be happy to know that my econ text, written by UNT faculty states as historical fact that Reagan's tax cut policies didn't work. I pointed out to the department that they should take more care in what they portray as concrete fact. I expect a revision in the next printing.

[forevereagle]

Stock prices are reflection of what shareholders see as their future value. They have dropped 20% since Barack was sworn in because investors are terrified of his proposals.

Face the facts... investors have no confidence in his plan.

I don't know that I agree with this statement. Stock prices are a reflection of what investors think the value will be tomorrow. Stocks are too volitile and subject to recent events to actually be based on anything more than the immediate future. Values wouldn't change so drastically after quarterly earnings were announced if it was truely about the future.

[BeanCounterGrad'03]

Millions of investors disagree.

A majority of voters agree.

[UNTflyer]

---Maybe not... but he did not create this mess, removing controls and regulations on Wall Street and Banking did... and he did not do that either.

As pointed out in one of the previous political threads, this is false. Clinton signed the bill deregulating banks in 1999, the famous Gramm Bill that you claim caused this.

President Bill Clinton after signing the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act in 1999. The law partially deregulated the securities industry. (Photo: Justin Lane/The New York Times)

This is one of those talking points that has been repeated ad nauseum, yet no one can really explain it. The sheeple swallow it hook line and sinker.

I would point out that Sarbanes-Oxley, implemented under Bush, costs publicly traded companies 4% right off the top. In other words, heavy-handed regulations signed by Bush has sucked nearly $1.4 TRILLION out of the economy. So, my point is that OVER-regulation has really harmed the economy, not under-regulation.

I challenge you to post EXACTLY what controls or regulations were removed by Bush that "created this mess".

Edited March 7, 2009 by UNTflyer

[UNTflyer]

--- I also haven't heard any great suggestions from the other side of the aisle.... do they have any??

Uhh, yeah. The same suggestion we've been presenting for 20 years... eliminate the capital gains tax, which is nothing more than double taxation.

Eliminate capital gains taxes and the Dow will shoot up 5,000 points and banks will be eager to lend money.