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Sad, very sad...seems like this was a good guy who just couldn't give up the dream of playing pro ball. It is tough to give it up, I am sure, although I have no personal experience with that, but it does point out that there needs to be some sort of perspective for these kids as they develop as athletes as to what to do and how to prepare for a life after sports. I know many schools stress this, but perhaps there needs to be more emphasis placed on it at a younger age...as young as jr high perhaps. This is a real tragedy...this guy could have gone on to do good things, but now we wil never know...how very sad. How very sad.....

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The story mentioned he graduated with a degree, that SHOULD prepare him of life after football. I think not making the NFL is provinding his friends and family a convienient answer to the question asked by most loved ones of suicides...WHY? That's why depression can be so tragic for those left behind, what the catalyst for this final act may never be known.

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Sorry...flame me if you want...but that was just stupid. Everyone knows how difficult it is to make it in the NFL...ask Johnny Quinn. Quite frankly, and no offense to him especially considering that I have been so impressed by him from day 1, it is truly amazing what Patrick Cobbs has been able to do in the NFL. PC seems to be one of the truly lucky ones...and there are not many.

BUT TO TAKE YOUR OWN LIFE??? What a SELFISH act!!! I am certain his friends and family would have not thought any differently of him. I am certain that this fine young man would have been a highly productive member of this society.

Tragic? Yes. But so senseless...

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Sorry...flame me if you want...but that was just stupid. Everyone knows how difficult it is to make it in the NFL...ask Johnny Quinn. Quite frankly, and no offense to him especially considering that I have been so impressed by him from day 1, it is truly amazing what Patrick Cobbs has been able to do in the NFL. PC seems to be one of the truly lucky ones...and there are not many.

BUT TO TAKE YOUR OWN LIFE??? What a SELFISH act!!! I am certain his friends and family would have not thought any differently of him. I am certain that this fine young man would have been a highly productive member of this society.

Tragic? Yes. But so senseless...

i agree....

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Certainly suicide is selfish, but it really is *your* life and not anyone elses. That doesn't mean I support suicide, or agree with this young man, but of course choosing when you have had enough is selfish... At the very least he didn't have an kids or a wife.

With that said, mental illness is very hard to understand. I think any otherwise healthy person who kills themselves was mentally ill (before death). It is easy to say, "get over it, man up, quit whining, we all suffer losses, we all have let downs, etc." Somethings, regardless if it makes sense to anyone else, is just too much to handle. Therefore, how can I really comment on it.

I find it sad that he showed so many signs of slipping mentally, and there really wasn't a real way to force him to get help. I can only assume people had talks with him about life after football.. Depressed people "brave face" those types of conversations. To the other party, they seem ok and that they got the message.

My neighbor's friend just hanged herself. The night before they were all at a holiday party.. this friend didn't seem depressed to anyone there. Crazy. Merry Christmas!

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No, a degree helps provide you the opportunity to make a living. Its the job of everyone; coaches, teachers, friends, and famliy to prepare someone for a life after football.

Yes, suicide is actually a very selfish act. Many times one does not consider the feelings and the aftermath of their actions.

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Many players are pushed into only thinking about the "next step in their football careers" constantly by family and friends as they grow up. They ask "have you made varsity?", "will you start this week?", "who is recruiting you?", "have you received any calls?", "why don't you go try Canadian football?", "Maybe you need another agent", etc. ...only asking them about football as if nothing else in their life is important. They are put on a pedestal and when they fall off it we wonder why. Truly sad there is so much pressure on them about sports and nobody telling them how to prepare for life off the field.

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My neighbor's friend just hanged herself. The night before they were all at a holiday party.. this friend didn't seem depressed to anyone there. Crazy. Merry Christmas!

Crap do I hate the hangings. Gives me the creeps when such little else does. They are always found by a family member, and it's the horrible screems and whaling from them that hits home to you. They are the ones you really feel for.

Rick

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Crap do I hate the hangings. Gives me the creeps when such little else does. They are always found by a family member, and it's the horrible screems and whaling from them that hits home to you. They are the ones you really feel for.

Rick

Okay, Rick, have you ever seen this one...this is one handled by an insurance company I used to work for:

We insured this fellow's rental out in the high desert of California, around Apple Valley. Anyway, the tenant was late for rent and the landlord couldn't reach him by phone. After a few days, he decided to go out there to try to collect the rent in person.

He caught a bad stench as he approached the porch. He opened the door, there was a pool of blood near a wall in the living room with a trail to the kitchen. He followed the trail. Blood in the sink. And, another blood trail out to the garage...where he found the tenant - hanging with both wrists slit.

We figured he'd slit his wrists in the kitchen, gone to the living room and sat down against the wall. When that was taking too long, he got up, went back through the kitchen to the garage and hanged himself there. Worse, we figured it'd been done a week or so before the landlord found him.

What you guys and insurance adjusters have to see sometimes...I couldn't do it for what they pay. You all are a different, very special, breed. Those are hard scenes to encounter.

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