Rpi For 12-15

[filmerj]

RPI

On are way up. Anyone now what the double arrow means?

[UNTflyer]

Rising up fast, although I don't know why. We have yet to beat a team with a winning record.

[MDH]

Double arrow means you jumped more than 10 spots.

[CMJ]

Rising up fast, although I don't know why. We have yet to beat a team with a winning record.

But if the right teams win we also move up. OSU has been helping us as of late.

[e-bone ver2.awesome]

I wonder if our RPI will go down when we beat Houston Baptist.

[CMJ]

I wonder if our RPI will go down when we beat Houston Baptist.

I think it will.

That is honestly one of the reasons why playing Division 2 schools for tuneups isn't necessarily a bad thing. They don't hurt your RPI like a low ranked D1 school does.

[BonfireBrian]

I think it will.

That is honestly one of the reasons why playing Division 2 schools for tuneups isn't necessarily a bad thing. They don't hurt your RPI like a low ranked D1 school does.

That's a good point. I had never really thought of it that way.

It would be nice if Houston Baptist can get a few wins this year. That way, they hopefully won't hurt us too much.

[untbowler]

I think it will.

That is honestly one of the reasons why playing Division 2 schools for tuneups isn't necessarily a bad thing. They don't hurt your RPI like a low ranked D1 school does.

HBU is actually a D1 Independent fixing to join Great West conference

[CMJ]

HBU is actually a D1 Independent fixing to join Great West conference

I am aware of this which is why I said what I said. Last year we may have played 3 cupcake D2 schools, but none of them hurt us in the RPI the way HB will. I hope some of our other opponents will start to win, because quite a few of them are in the lower third of the RPI and it's beating us up badly right now.

We'll see if this changes once league play begins across the country.

Edited December 15, 2008 by CMJ

[UNTflyer]

Does our RPI really matter? I don't think so. We either win the conference tournament or go home. The NIT won't take us no matter how many 20-win seasons or OSU's we knock off.

[CMJ]

Does our RPI really matter? I don't think so. We either win the conference tournament or go home. The NIT won't take us no matter how many 20-win seasons or OSU's we knock off.

I don't think that's totally true either. But the committee doesn't JUST look at RPI either(in fact the last several committees have said it's hardly a determining factor). It's just one of the ways basketball geeks like to track programs. It's by no means exact.

[untlynchka]

Does our RPI really matter? I don't think so. We either win the conference tournament or go home. The NIT won't take us no matter how many 20-win seasons or OSU's we knock off.

The NIT has to take any regular season conference champion that does not make the field of 65. So we dont technically have to win the conference tourney to get into the postseason.

[Travis]

Question... does every D 1 conference get one automatic bid to the tourny? if not, which ones don't?

[CMJ]

Question... does every D 1 conference get one automatic bid to the tourny? if not, which ones don't?

They all do.

[CMJ]

After tonight's games here are the Sunbelt standings.

26 WKU

101 Arkansas St.

150 North Texas

152 UALR

156 South Alabama

215 FIU

226 FAU

269 New Orleans

277 LA Lafayette

287 LA Monroe

292 Troy

304 MTSU

324 Denver

[MeanMag]

After tonight's games here are the Sunbelt standings.

26 WKU

101 Arkansas St.

150 North Texas

152 UALR

156 South Alabama

215 FIU

226 FAU

269 New Orleans

277 LA Lafayette

287 LA Monroe

292 Troy

304 MTSU

324 Denver

Check out AR Pine Bluff.... 1-7 mind you

[Buford_Julep]

Does our RPI really matter? I don't think so. We either win the conference tournament or go home. The NIT won't take us no matter how many 20-win seasons or OSU's we knock off.

Once there was an NCAA Tournament Selection Committee person on the old Dan Patrick ESPN radio show. He said the rpi was completely meaningless as a selection aid and that he paid absolutely no attention to it. He said it is a terrible way to rate teams, and that the Sagarin Ratings were much more accurate.

I agree. Does anyone really think WKU is near #26 or that MTSU is near #304?

[Buford_Julep]

I think it will.

That is honestly one of the reasons why playing Division 2 schools for tuneups isn't necessarily a bad thing. They don't hurt your RPI like a low ranked D1 school does.

Why NT plays D-2's

Originally posted December 22, 2006:

Why not play a low-major instead of an NAIA or Div II?

1. Money. The American answer to almost everything. It is cheaper to bring in an NAIA or a Div II than a low Div I.

2. Availability. Low Div I teams such as Savannah State, Arkansas-Pine Bluff and Prairie View A&M are snapped up by The Baylors and Texas A&M's of the Div I world. NT can't compete with the guarantees those teams pay.

Why pay for contract games? Why not play home and away games with local teams like we used to.

MG 61, Scottie on the other board, and one other poster whose name I can't remember all posted excellent articles about scheduling and how difficult it is for mid-majors to schedule in today's enviroment. Most of this post is based on what was in those articles. Former coach Rike said forget about playing Texas Texas, Baylor or SMU. They won't even talk about playing.

It is hard to schedule nearby teams of comparable ability to home and away games because of the fear of losing to a recruiting competitor. My guess is Tulsa, a team that consistently gets players NT wants, will never play us again after losing both ends of a home and away series..

That leaves the possibility of home and away games or pre-conference tournaments with far away teams. In the past NT under coach Jones has played games with strong mid-majors Missouri State (two wins) , NC-Wilmington (1 win one loss), Weber State (win) and Winthrop (win). The dark side is these games incur expensive travel costs. Rather than schedule, and possibly lose to NT, many teams would rather try to schedule a lucrative road game with a major conference team. There is more money in it, and the coach will not be held to the fire for losing such a game to a team his fans have never heard of.

Will playing NAIA and Div II teams hurt our RPI?

In the first place , having a good RPI is not a free pass to the NCAA Tournament. Ask Missouri State.

A game with a D-2 or NAIA game does not count for or against an RPI rating. However, winning against a low rated D-1 opponent like Grambling CAN BRING DOWN your RPI.

Are NAIA teams so bad that playing them does not help a team to help keep it's competitive edge? Why not play a high school team or a YMCA team?

NAIA teams are not much worse than low D-1 teams. LINK There is nothing new about NT playing NAIA or D-2 teams. What is new is now NT is thrashing these teams instead of struggling to beat them. I am sure Jarvis Christian will be a well-conditioned, well-coached team of fine, highly skilled athletes that are just too small or lack the strength or speed to play at the D-1 level.

See you at the game.

Edited December 17, 2008 by Buford_Julep