The Country Of Texas

UNT_playmaker · December 5, 2008

THE COUNTRY OF TEXAS

Please note that Texas is the only state with a legal right to secede from the Union . (Reference the Texas-American Annexation Treaty of 1848.)

We Texans love y'all, but we'll probably have to take action since B. Hussein Obama won the election. We'll miss you too. Here is what can happen:

#1: Barack Hussein Obama becomes President of the United States , Texas immediately secedes from the Union .

#2: George W. Bush will become the President of the Republic of Texas ??? (Please, is this a joke?)

So what does Texas have to do to survive as a Republic?

1. NASA is just south of Houston , Texas . We will control the space industry.

2. We refine over 85% of the gasoline in the United States .

3. Defense Industry--we have over 65% of it. The term "Don't mess with Texas ," will take on a whole new meaning.

4. Oil - we can supply all the oil that the Republic of Texas will need for the next 300 years. Yankee states? Sorry about that.

5. Natural Gas - again we have all we need and it's too bad about those Northern States. John Kerry will have to figure out a way to keep them warm....

6. Computer Industry - we currently lead the nation in producing computer chips and communications--small companies like Texas Instruments, Dell Compu ter, EDS, Raytheon, National Semiconductor, Motorola, Intel, AMD, Atmel, Applied Materials, Ball Miconductor, Dallas Semiconductor, Delphi, Nortel, Alcatel, etc, etc. The list goes on and on.

7. Medical Care - We have the largest research centers for cancer research, the best burn centers and the top trauma units in the world, as well as other large health centers. Dallas has some of the best hospitals in the United States .

8. We have enough colleges to keep us going: University of Texas , Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Rice, SMU, University of Houston , Baylor, UNT ( University of North Texas ), Texas Women's University, etc. Ivy grows better in the South anyway.

9. We have a ready supply of workers. We could just open the border when we need some more.

10. We have essential control of the paper industry, plastics, insurance, etc.

11. In case of a foreign invasion, we have the Texas National Guard and the Texas Air National Guard. We don't have an Army, but since everybody down here has at least six rifles and a pile of ammo, we can raise an Army in 24 hours if we need one. If the situation really gets bad, we can always call the Department of Public Safety and ask them to send over Chuck Norris and a couple of Texas Rangers.

12. We are totally self-sufficient in beef, poultry, hogs, and several types of grain, fruit and vegetables, and let's not forget seafood from the Gulf. Also, everybody down here knows how to cook them so that they taste good. Don't need any food.

This just names a few of the items that will keep the Republic of Texas in good shape. There isn't a thing out there that we need and don't have.

Now to the rest of the United States under President Obama:

Since you won't have the refineries to get gas for your cars, only President Obama will be able to drive around in his big 9 mpg SUV. The rest of the United States will have to walk or ride bikes.

You won't have any TV as the Space Center in Houston will cut off satellite communications.

You won't have any natural gas to heat your homes, but since Mr. Obama has predicted global warming, you will not need the gas as long as you survive the 2000 years it will take to get enough heat from Global Warming.

Signed, The People of Texas

P.S. This is not a threatening letter - just a note to give you something to think about!

SLEEP WELL TONIGHT THE EYES OF TEXAS ARE UPON YOU!!

One Nation Under God

Cerebus · December 5, 2008

THE COUNTRY OF TEXAS

Please note that Texas is the only state with a legal right to secede from the Union . (Reference the Texas-American Annexation Treaty of 1848.)

I'm not even going to comment on the rest of this. But Texas has no right to secede from the Union. This is an urban legend.

The legend probably has roots in the 1845 Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas, which in order to try and maintain the Missouri Compromise stated that Texas had the option to split into 5 smaller states, in which those north of the 36°30'N slavery demarcation would be free states and those south of 36°30'N would have slavery decided by popular vote.

This is all moot since the treaty was nullified not only by the Kansas-Nebraska act, but also by Texas seceding in 1861. Texas was not readmitted into the union, under different treaty, in 1865.

Not that the whole splitting a state up thing was NOT unique. Article IV, Section 3 of the Constitution already detailed how any state legislature could decide to split a state if they wanted.

Censored by Laurie · December 5, 2008

I liked it better when racists were just open with their sentiments.

Eagle1855 · December 5, 2008

2 responses in, Im already digging the direction of this thread.

Green P1 · December 5, 2008

I'm not even going to comment on the rest of this. But Texas has no right to secede from the Union. This is an urban legend.

Oh yea!?! Well why don't you explain why we are the only state that gets to fly our flag at the same level as the Stars and Stripes?

It's cause we can legally secede from that Stupid, Liberal, Gay lovin Union whenever the hell we want.

I can't freaking wait.... The Cowboys are gonna totally dominate the National Football League of Texas.

Edited December 5, 2008 by Green P1

Cerebus · December 5, 2008

Look if we did secede we would deport

and have to listen to this all day... is that what you guys really want?

IS IT??!

Now, if you excuse me, I have to go listen to some Godspeed You! Black Emperor to try repair my aging hipster street cred after linking a Cowboy Troy song.

Green P1 · December 5, 2008

My childhood home was right next to a railroad crossing. I played chicken with the train train quite a few times while flattening pennies. I completely feel where Cowboy Troy is coming form in that song.

Edited December 5, 2008 by Green P1

Censored by Laurie · December 5, 2008

Godspeed You! Black Emperor

8th Best Canadian Band...ever...right after Stars...right a head of Barenaked Ladies

My childhood home was right next to a railroad crossing. I played chicken with the train train quite a few times while flattening pennies. I completely feel where Cowboy Troy is coming form in that song.

Thats why so many people love his music...they identify with his rich, meaningful lyrics.

Cerebus · December 5, 2008

8th Best Canadian Band...ever...right after Stars...right a head of Barenaked Ladies
Thats why so many people love his music...they identify with his rich, meaningful lyrics.

Uh, point of order, I'm pretty sure there are only 6 known Canadian bands.

Censored by Laurie · December 5, 2008

Uh, point of order, I'm pretty sure there are only 6 known Canadian bands.

Uhh...lets not sell the Great White North music scene short, thank you...The Dears, The Band, Neil Young, Leonard Cohen, The Weakerthans, The Arcade Fire, Gordon Lightfoot, The New Pornographers, Great Lake Swimmers, Stars, The Stills, Wintersleep...and thats not even mentioning indie darlings that I really can't get into and my music friends don't understand why; Ra Ra Riot and Broken Social Scene.

These all just happen to be on the tip of my tongue b/c I've decided that I'm choosing where I'm going to move to next based upon music playlists that i've set up featuring artists from the prospective regions...and Canada is a very strong player...I hear Vancouver is nice.

Chrisattsu · December 5, 2008

Oh yea!?! Well why don't you explain why we are the only state that gets to fly our flag at the same level as the Stars and Stripes?
It's cause we can legally secede from that Stupid, Liberal, Gay lovin Union whenever the hell we want.
I can't freaking wait.... The Cowboys are gonna totally dominate the National Football League of Texas.

False again..

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/texasflag.asp

You can also look up the Texas and the US flagcodes if you like.

Cerebus · December 5, 2008

Uhh...lets not sell the Great White North music scene short, thank you...The Dears, The Band, Neil Young, Leonard Cohen, The Weakerthans, The Arcade Fire, Gordon Lightfoot, The New Pornographers, Great Lake Swimmers, Stars, The Stills, Wintersleep...and thats not even mentioning indie darlings that I really can't get into and my music friends don't understand why; Ra Ra Riot and Broken Social Scene.
These all just happen to be on the tip of my tongue b/c I've decided that I'm choosing where I'm going to move to next based upon music playlists that i've set up featuring artists from the prospective regions...and Canada is a very strong player...I hear Vancouver is nice.

Lets go through this list.

The Dears: Obviously a made up name.

The Band: They brokeup a decade ago, also the Weight makes no sense.

Neil Young: I'll give you Neil Young.

Leonard Cohen: Poet, as a singer/songwriter he had a voice only bull elephants could here. He did get us a sweet Jeff Buckley cover though.

The Arcade Fire: The Butlers are from Texas and the band was formed in NH. They are just dodging the draft in Canada.

Gordon Lightfoot: Half credit, the man is greatness, but his last hit came out the same year I was born.

New Pornographers: The name over promises. <_<

Great Lake Swimmers: Another made up name.

Stars: A hockey team.

The Stills: This list is less entertaing than I thought, and I need to go eat. I'll distract you with this:

N0gb9v4LI4o

Censored by Laurie · December 5, 2008

Lets go through this list.
The Dears: Obviously a made up name.
The Band: They brokeup a decade ago, also the Weight makes no sense.
Neil Young: I'll give you Neil Young.
Leonard Cohen: Poet, as a singer/songwriter he had a voice only bull elephants could here. He did get us a sweet Jeff Buckley cover though.
The Arcade Fire: The Butlers are from Texas and the band was formed in NH. They are just dodging the draft in Canada.
Gordon Lightfoot: Half credit, the man is greatness, but his last hit came out the same year I was born.
New Pornographers: The name over promises.
Great Lake Swimmers: Another made up name.
Stars: A hockey team.
The Stills: This list is less entertaing than I thought, and I need to go eat. I'll distract you with this:
N0gb9v4LI4o

In case anyone is interested...Toby Jones does not check his voicemail too frequently...mailbox is full

Jeff Buckley

Taken WAY too soon...he and Elliott Smith are my 1A & 1B

Edited December 5, 2008 by Censored by Laurie

December 5, 2008

...and the best thing from the New Pornographers is Neko Case.

She is Americano.

However, I think Canadia still has come good musics.

Censored by Laurie · December 5, 2008

...and the best thing from the New Pornographers is Neko Case.
She is Americano.
However, I think Canadia still has come good musics.

GA-GREEEE! Like Jenna Fisher and Gillian Anderson got together and made beautiful sweet love (in front of me) and Neko was the result of the sapphic session

Edited December 5, 2008 by Censored by Laurie

Green P1 · December 5, 2008

If/when we do secede I'm going to petition that we annex both Lightfoot and Young. I'd also like the corpse of Warren Zevon dug up and brought this side of the Red River.

Now I'm going to have the Edmund Fitzgerald and Excitable Boy in my head all day long. Its a very odd combo.

Edited December 5, 2008 by Green P1

December 5, 2008

Taken WAY too soon...he and Elliott Smith are my 1A & 1B

I never got the Buckley love. My friend LOVES(D) him..

She played her favorite all time song of his "Satisfied Mind." I can understand her feelings for the song, probably sentimental.

She was blown away that it was the late great Porter Wagoner's song and not an original. Then I played her the Flying Burrito Brother's cover, and she was blown away again.

As an example, Gram Parsons even wore a Nudie Suit like Porter..

Country music has a pretty good tradition of covering music, it becomes a hit again, then 7 years later, someone else will do it and then it is a hit again. Artists see it as paying respect to the original and fans know it is a cover... I mean damn, 90% of Johnny Cash's catalog is someone elses. His genius cover of Cocaine Blues is the native Okie Woodie Gutrie.

Rock and other genres, do a cover, and try to hide the fact that it wasn't thier song. And fans will deny the original.. but I digress. It is has always annoyed me.

Mr. Smith on the other hand? I didn't really get into him alive or dead, but I respect his desire to bring the waltz back to pop music. It is a shame it is gone from modern music...

Censored by Laurie · December 5, 2008

I never got the Buckley love. My friend LOVES(D) him..
She played her favorite all time song of his "Satisfied Mind." I can understand her feelings for the song, probably sentimental.
She was blown away that it was the late great Porter Wagoner's song and not an original. Then I played her the Flying Burrito Brother's cover, and she was blown away again.
Country music has a pretty good tradition of covering music, it becomes a hit again, then 7 years later, someone else will do it and then it is a hit again. Artists see it as paying respect to the original and fans know it is a cover... I mean damn, 90% of Johnny Cash's catalog is someone elses. His genius cover of Cocaine Blues is the native Okie Woodie Gutrie.
Rock and other genres, do a cover, and try to hide the fact that it wasn't thier song. And fans will deny the original.. but I digress. It is has always annoyed me.
Mr. Smith on the other hand? I didn't really get into him alive or dead, but I respect his desire to bring the waltz back to pop music. It is a shame it is gone from modern music...

Satisfied Mind is a great song...I like the Flying Burrito Bros. so I'll definently have to look up that version...I've got a great southern gospel version by The Blind Boys of Alabama that I really dig.

I haven't really noticed the trend of trying to shy away from the orignal...for most artists its a way for them to honor the people who inspired them and with whom they hold a deep regard. I think the only problem that can arise is when the cover is vastly superior to the original...I like Leonard Cohen, but his Hallelujah can't hold a candle to Jeff Buckley's. Jeff's influences were all over the place, covers of Nina Simone, Edith Piaf, Van Morrison, Dylan, Jay Hawkins, Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, The Smiths...and he was always apt to talk about the artist and what they meant to him.

Elliott's Waltz #2 might be my all time favorite song...he really brought about the whole concept of quiet as the new loud...just on the surface his voice seems calm and soothing, belying lyrics of addiction, heartache, suicide and pain. Despite all that...he was still a very playful and often happy guy.

Chrisattsu · December 5, 2008

THE COUNTRY OF TEXAS

Please note that Texas is the only state with a legal right to secede from the Union . (Reference the Texas-American Annexation Treaty of 1848.)

We Texans love y'all, but we'll probably have to take action since B. Hussein Obama won the election. We'll miss you too. Here is what can happen:
#1: Barack Hussein Obama becomes President of the United States , Texas immediately secedes from the Union .

#2: George W. Bush will become the President of the Republic of Texas ??? (Please, is this a joke?)
So what does Texas have to do to survive as a Republic?
1. NASA is just south of Houston , Texas . We will control the space industry.
Federal. We lose it.
2. We refine over 85% of the gasoline in the United States .
Great. We can sell gas, but they can buy somewhere else or boycott us like Cuba
3. Defense Industry--we have over 65% of it. The term "Don't mess with Texas ," will take on a whole new meaning.
Federal troops gone. How many of these corporations sucking the federal tit are going to be around after we separate from the union?
4. Oil - we can supply all the oil that the Republic of Texas will need for the next 300 years. Yankee states?
I can't contest that, so I will give it to you
5. Natural Gas - again we have all we need and it's too bad about those Northern States. John Kerry will have to figure out a way to keep them warm....
I can't contest that, so I will give it to you
6. Computer Industry - we currently lead the nation in producing computer chips and communications--small companies like Texas Instruments, Dell Compu ter, EDS, Raytheon, National Semiconductor, Motorola, Intel, AMD, Atmel, Applied Materials, Ball Miconductor, Dallas Semiconductor, Delphi, Nortel, Alcatel, etc, etc. The list goes on and on.
How many stay after separation? How much staff is relocated 'back to the United States'?
7. Medical Care - We have the largest research centers for cancer research, the best burn centers and the top trauma units in the world, as well as other large health centers. Dallas has some of the best hospitals in the United States .
Research is funded by Federal Dollars right?
8. We have enough colleges to keep us going: University of Texas , Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Rice, SMU, University of Houston , Baylor, UNT ( University of North Texas ), Texas Women's University, etc. Ivy grows better in the South anyway.
Ehh.. The value of your degree is based on accreditation right? How much value do you put into an international degree that is not accredited by the same criteria as US institutions (aside from certain UK schools), is a Canadian, Mexican, or Latin American degree worth to your company today?
9. We have a ready supply of workers. We could just open the border when we need some more.
Aren't we xenophobic anyways?
10. We have essential control of the paper industry, plastics, insurance, etc.
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11. In case of a foreign invasion, we have the Texas National Guard and the Texas Air National Guard. We don't have an Army, but since everybody down here has at least six rifles and a pile of ammo, we can raise an Army in 24 hours if we need one. If the situation really gets bad, we can always call the Department of Public Safety and ask them to send over Chuck Norris and a couple of Texas Rangers.
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12. We are totally self-sufficient in beef, poultry, hogs, and several types of grain, fruit and vegetables, and let's not forget seafood from the Gulf. Also, everybody down here knows how to cook them so that they taste good. Don't need any food.
Excellent Point.
This just names a few of the items that will keep the Republic of Texas in good shape. There isn't a thing out there that we need and don't have.
Now to the rest of the United States under President Obama:
Since you won't have the refineries to get gas for your cars, only President Obama will be able to drive around in his big 9 mpg SUV. The rest of the United States will have to walk or ride bikes.
You won't have any TV as the Space Center in Houston will cut off satellite communications.
You won't have any natural gas to heat your homes, but since Mr. Obama has predicted global warming, you will not need the gas as long as you survive the 2000 years it will take to get enough heat from Global Warming.
Signed, The People of Texas

I looked at this list, and started to think -

If Texas left the Union, the United States would try to put a fight. Now, pretending that we do have this so called right, and the US let us go. They would likely be similar to a spiteful ex-girlfriend who breaks your shit, and doesn't give you back your favorite tshirt. A vindictive United States could impose trade embargoes, making it difficult for Texas to sell products back to the United States. If this occurred, you could see many of the above listed corporations (and industries) leave Texas so they can continue to support the American economy.

DAMN, I have too much time on my hands.

Edited December 5, 2008 by Chrisattsu

Censored by Laurie · December 5, 2008

I looked at this list, and started to think -
If Texas left the Union, the United States would try to put a fight. Now, pretending that we do have this so called right, and the US let us go. They would likely be similar to a spiteful ex-girlfriend who breaks your shit, and doesn't give you back your favorite tshirt. A vindictive United States could impose trade embargoes, making it difficult for Texas to sell products back to the United States. If this occurred, you could see many of the above listed corporations (and industries) leave Texas so they can continue to support the American economy.
DAMN, I have too much time on my hands.

Sir, we've managed to turn this asinine thread into an agent of good...please stop trying to derail this by going back to the original topic

UNT_playmaker · December 5, 2008

This was sent to me this morning by a friend of mine who is in the Navy...I ireally liked what was said in it and knew that there were alot of people on the board who shared my feelings that Texas is a one of kind state that didnt deserve to be with states like Louisana, Mississippi, and others...

Which state is always there to help the still corrupt state of Louisana and others when there is a major disaster. We never hesitate to open our doors and wallets.

Texas would make a great country of its own and it did before...

Green P1 · December 5, 2008

Featuring the official voice of Mean Green Athletics: The greatest cover of all time.

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