Lamar Football Scheduling

DeepGreen · November 17, 2008

From Bob West's column in the PA News....

"New Lamar University football coach Ray Woodard is not only a big man at 6-6, 290, he also thinks big. Woodard, in the process of putting future schedules together, called Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Michigan and Oklahoma State, among others. His first taker was Texas A&M. Although the contracts have not been signed, Lamar is tentatively schedule to play the Aggies at Kyle Field Sept. 8, 2012. Tentative dates have also been made with Oklahoma State and TCU in 2013. Asked about a possible game with Texas, Woodard said he was told the Longhorns weren’t interested in playing a 1-AA team. The LU coach wouldn’t say what the school’s payout will be for playing at A&M, but I’m betting it’s in excess of $500,000 . . ."

Gee, already a tentative date with OSU and TCU. I thought TCU was booked up? Guess not. <_<

And to think Lamar won't play until 2010.

Board moderators can move this thread if needed. I just wanted everyone to read what others are getting done.

NT03 · November 17, 2008

I guess since we helped out that program this summer they were nice enough not to call us and try to schedule a WIN

DeepGreen · November 17, 2008

I guess since we helped out that program this summer they were nice enough not to call us and try to schedule a WIN

Maybe Lamar is looking for actual competition. :disgust:

stebo · November 17, 2008

TCU would probably agree to play us as a one game series like that but why would we do that? There are plenty of teams that will play us home and home (SMU, Tulsa, Rice, Army, NAVY, half the MAC, etc...) I am surprised that A&M would give $500K for a FCS team but Waters has asked Belt schools to take no less than a million for canned hunt games in the future.

NT80 · November 17, 2008

His first taker was Texas A&M.

Could have guessed that move. Aggies are becoming the new Baylor in football.

November 17, 2008

Could have guessed that move. Aggies are becoming the new Baylor in football.

I don't believe that I'd go there yet. After all, Sherman was the head coach of the Green Bay Packers and I can't believe that he'll stay down long.

wardly · November 17, 2008

t.c.u. won't play us period. we need to develope an intrastate rival. my choice is texas state.

Chrisattsu · November 17, 2008

t.c.u. won't play us period. we need to develope an intrastate rival. my choice is texas state.

We'll be rivals again in a couple of years.

The Bobcats played Baylor in 04

Aggies in 2005

Kentucky 06

Baylor 07

SMUt 08

and we will play TCU in 09

Lamar appears to be coming on strong. They are getting their new stadium, athletic donations are coming in, and the rumors that I am starting to hear indicate that they want to move to FBS shortly after starting their program. There is one poster in the conference realignment world who has speculated that you could see a "Southland-Four" moving up right around the same time--

Texas State, UTSA, Lamar, and Sam Houston. Sam Houston has not mentioned moving up just yet, but you can bet they will attempt to follow if Texas State and Lamar move up.

Edited November 17, 2008 by Chrisattsu

DeepGreen · November 17, 2008

Complaining just to complain.

Seriously, for years there have been discussions on this board about playing Oklahoma State and also having a continueing series with TCU, our Metroplex neighbor. Our chances of a 1 for 1 with TCU is much better. Instead, we line up with the likes of LSU, Oklahoma, and Texas, etc. for our annual pastings. OSU is having a great year, but it has not always been that way. We only need one money game a year and it sure doesn't have to be against the likes of LSU.

And no, I'd hate the thought of dropping to our knees and playing Lamar, a 1AA startup.

Green Dozer · November 17, 2008

I don't believe that I'd go there yet. After all, Sherman was the head coach of the Green Bay Packers and I can't believe that he'll stay down long.

And was fired by the Packers......these pro coaches, and I know he was at A&M before, for the most part don't seem to find success at the college level (Pete Carroll is an exception, Johnson & Switzer won Super Bowls, could argue Switzer's but a ring is ring). Callahan coached in a Super Bowl before taking over at Nebraska. I just do not see A&M getting enough of the great recruits to build much of a threat to OU and TX given the level those two programs are at right now. Trend and history seems to say coaches moving to different levels find the going tough. I will say, the Ags are showing great patience. (Anybody know of any other examples of coaches moving up or down, and having their setbacks? Hmmm.....D-O-D-G-E)

DeepGreen · November 17, 2008

Uh, Charlie Weiss at ND comes to mind.

shaft · November 17, 2008

A&M doesn't want to pay visiting D1/FBS more than $500,000, I doubt they will pay Lamar anything close to that.

There is a reason the SBC commissioner is advising teams to ask for a million dollars for a buy game.

(Footnote: The Austin Statesman article posted on the board about FAU getting a record pay out to play Texas.)

forevereagle · November 17, 2008

Haven't we complained about this type of "body bag game" in the past? Are we really envious of them? These teams are not jumping on to help out Lamar, they are seeing an easy win with against a new program. Why is this thinking big? Isn't this more like thinking $$?

November 17, 2008

And was fired by the Packers......these pro coaches, and I know he was at A&M before, for the most part don't seem to find success at the college level (Pete Carroll is an exception, Johnson & Switzer won Super Bowls, could argue Switzer's but a ring is ring). Callahan coached in a Super Bowl before taking over at Nebraska. I just do not see A&M getting enough of the great recruits to build much of a threat to OU and TX given the level those two programs are at right now. Trend and history seems to say coaches moving to different levels find the going tough. I will say, the Ags are showing great patience. (Anybody know of any other examples of coaches moving up or down, and having their setbacks? Hmmm.....D-O-D-G-E)

I believe that Mike Sherman is the most successful NFL head coach that has ever returned to the collegiate ranks. He had a 59-43 record at Green Bay, including five consecutive winning seasons. He was both head coach and general manager those five seasons and was fired by the man that replaced him at general manager partially due to three of his pro bowlers going on IR at the beginning of the season and his new general manager trading away another pro bowler.

There aren't many that move up to be a successful head coach in the pros and then move back down to colleges again. Pete Carroll was barely successful in the pros (33-31) and he's the only one that I can think of. Nick Saban and Steve Spurrier moved back with success but they had losing records in the NFL.

Sherman seems to be a pretty good judge of talent and there are still a lot of kids out there that would kill to be Aggies. He may not pan out but most of the Aggie faithful think that he will.

Green Dozer · November 17, 2008

I believe that Mike Sherman is the most successful NFL head coach that has ever returned to the collegiate ranks. He had a 59-43 record at Green Bay, including five consecutive winning seasons. He was both head coach and general manager those five seasons and was fired by the man that replaced him at general manager partially due to three of his pro bowlers going on IR at the beginning of the season and his new general manager trading away another pro bowler.
There aren't many that move up to be a successful head coach in the pros and then move back down to colleges again. Pete Carroll was barely successful in the pros (33-31) and he's the only one that I can think of. Nick Saban and Steve Spurrier moved back with success but they had losing records in the NFL.
Sherman seems to be a pretty good judge of talent and there are still a lot of kids out there that would kill to be Aggies. He may not pan out but most of the Aggie faithful think that he will.

Yea, and his firing really ticked Favre off. A lot of kids may kill to be Aggies, but not enough of the type of player it takes to win year in and year out (like ou and tx) who will pick College Station over Norman or Austin just to play in a pro system. Oh, they will get a few, win a Big XII title, but again not like OU or TX. Its a cultural thing for A&M unfortunately, even though College Station is a pretty special place as for as atmosphere. Most of the Aggies thought Fran would pan out to. Doesn't seem they want to pay the same player salaries they did under Sherrill either.

Speaking of Carroll, he also coached the Jets. Must be something in the water with the Jets, because their coaches, including Carroll, the guy at Virginia (Al ?) , and Brooks have gone on to be successful back in college as well. The college to the pros usually does not work, and most guys who were strictly pro coaches w/ no college experience are usually to technical and don't have the patience for the college level (Callahan was a good example).

Edited November 17, 2008 by Green Dozer