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I just find it funny that the people that make up the vast majority of those calling Obama a "socialist" have no idea what the definition of "socialism" is. Of course, they live in the "Real America", y'know the truly patriotic places in America... <_<Wake up, people...

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Obama in his own words about how to redistribute the wealth.

Not whether, but how: Through the courts or through legislation?

A caller asks The Messiah to explain how he would do “reparative economic work.” Obama gives the legislative route two thumbs up as his preferred method of “breaking free of the constraints” placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution and then continues about the “actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change.”

Absolutley right, WAKE UP PEOPLE!

Rick

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Here is the first part of the transcription of the redistribution of wealth audio above.

If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court. I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed people, so that now I would have the right to vote. I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order as long as I could pay for it I’d be o.k. But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society. To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical. It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as its been interpreted and Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can’t do to you. Says what the Federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the Federal government or State government must do on your behalf, and that hasn’t shifted and one of the, I think, tragedies of the civil rights movement was, um, because the civil rights movement became so court focused I think there was a tendancy to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change. In some ways we still suffer from that.

Rick

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I am just relieved that this election is going to be determined by posters exchanging insults on the gomeangreen.com message board.

Kinda makes me proud to just be a part of it all.

---You never know.... the 2000 election was decided by decided by 700 votes (in Florida) .... or 350 if consider how many people it took to switch votes. ....LOL

--- I once was an election judge that once was part of a small committee [ loser requested a recount] that had to decide a county race that was decided by ONE vote.

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Rick..

Our auto insurasnce is the highest in the USA.... Please tell me why I should support him... don't just state he is conservative or GOP or whatever... give specific reasons. I stated some that say why I don't.

------I have a friend that works as an------ actuary for a large insurance company and the reason Texas' auto insurance is so high is ------because of the high # of uninsured ------illegal immigrants that get in accidents.---- That causes us all higher premiums.------

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------I have a friend that works as an------ actuary for a large insurance company and the reason Texas' auto insurance is so high is ------because of the high # of uninsured ------illegal immigrants that get in accidents.---- That causes us all higher premiums.------
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THANKS FOR THE CONFIRMATION of what I posted---

----And the same is true in New Mexico, Florida, California, and Arizona.. as well as a few others..... It explains why we are higher than SOME states but not the highest. I have read the same and with the explaination you just gave and with the comment I just made....

Note who they (insurance execs. etc.) tend to donate to in Texas campaigns. Ie. follow the money...

Got a good explanation for homeowners insurance...???.. don't mention hurricanes... other states have it a lot worse than we do especially when you consider the size of the state and how much of it is totally unaffected by hurricanes. Texas is one of the most profitable states (some say THE most) to be in insurance according to sourses I have read.

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Got a good explanation for homeowners insurance...???.. don't mention hurricanes... other states have it a lot worse than we do especially when you consider the size of the state and how much of it is totally unaffected by hurricanes. Texas is one of the most profitable states to do insurance in according to sourses i have read.

Texas' high cost of homeowners insurance is due to an alarming # of black mold claims (highest in the nation) and building on poor ground (lime), again, highest amount of claims in the nation. That causes very expensive foundation repairs.

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A quote from a website that quotes the Houston Chronicle and the Texas Dept. of Insurance.....

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Did you know that according to the Texas Department of Insurance and HoustonChronicle.com, providers only paid out 57% of the insurance premium they brought in 2005? In 2004, they only paid 27.8%?

Well it’s true. Even with all the hurricanes and tornados and hail storms and killer mold. Even with all this, they only paid out an average of .42 cents on the dollar over the last two years

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You be the judge if the high rates are necessary -- did not find a site with stats of later years... just general statements about how bad they are.

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A quote from a website that quotes the Houston Chronicle and the Texas Dept. of Insurance.....

Did you know that according to the Texas Department of Insurance and HoustonChronicle.com, providers only paid out 57% of the insurance premium they brought in 2005? In 2004, they only paid 27.8%?

Well it’s true. Even with all the hurricanes and tornados and hail storms and killer mold. Even with all this, they only paid out an average of .42 cents on the dollar over the last two years

You judge if the high rates are necessary--

The unnamed mystery Web site would be well-served to learn the difference between "brought" and "bought." Between that and misspelling "tornadoes," this sounds like one of those livejournal-esque sites that someone starts whenever a company screws them over. In other words, between the crappy format and grammatical mistakes, it's no different than TY Sports.

On a serious note, I'd be curious to see the same stats for 2006 and 2007. Anyone know a good Insurance Pro, preferably with Mean Green ties?

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The unnamed mystery Web site would be well-served to learn the difference between "brought" and "bought." Between that and misspelling "tornadoes," this sounds like one of those livejournal-esque sites that someone starts whenever a company screws them over. In other words, between the crappy format and grammatical mistakes, it's no different than TY Sports.

On a serious note, I'd be curious to see the same stats for 2006 and 2007. Anyone know a good Insurance Pro, preferably with Mean Green ties?

--Had not noticed the spelling errors...can't locate it again but it was some Homeowners Association site quoting the Houston Chronicle.

Try this... an insurance company in Plano... no stats just a general statement that we have the worse rates in the nation. The bill Perry signed was very ineffective... Why would an insurance company lie about the high rates.?? They wouldn't..

Since 2000 there has been home insurance reform that has affected the residents of Plano and all of Texas. In 2003 Gov. Perry signed a Comprehensive Homeowner Insurance Reforms Legislation. This legislation is to stabilize the auto and home insurance market and the insurance industry of fraudulent practices and ensure Texans have access to fair rates offered in a competitive market. Despite this legislation, five years later, Texans still pay the highest home insurance rates in the country.

There is hope, over the last three years strides have been made in the home insurance market in Texas .Statewide, homeowners in nine of the top ten insurance companies have seen rates cut by more than 15 percent, or about a billion dollars in three years. What has lead to this turn around? Homeowners insurance reforms and strong action by state regulators. Texas residents are still paying the highest rates but they are lower than when the legislation was started in 2003

http://www.homeinsuranceplanotexas.com/

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Below is an interesting collection of articles from various Texas sourses. It is from Texas Monthly site but articles are from "all over". Some even contain comments from those defending the high rates. In any case .... they confirm how high they are.

http://www.texasmonthly.com/textalk/article?sid=5200

Included in this article is this quote.... again no 2006, 2007 stats available...which were also omitted in my original post..

A spokeswoman for Gov. Rick Perry defended the 2003 reforms and noted that the study doesn't include 2006 and 2007 figures.

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