Affidavit: Southlake Man Keyed More Than One Hummer

[SilverEagle]

Sounds like to me that several members of the media from different outlet listened to what the police had to say and the "environmentalist" issue obviously was part of his motive. Surely the reporters main issue when questions were allowed was..."WHY"?

But you can expect more of this. Channel 5 reported that a DBU student and Iraqi War Veteran had his Jeep vandalized on campus yesterday for fighting for this country's freedom. And now that hack Al Gore is calling for Civil Disobedience against coal-fired plants then the sky is the limit. I suppose us

will continue clinging to our guns as there seems to be more of a need than ever these days.

Rick

Since he didn't elaborate on what he meant by "civil disobedience", and since I'm part of that generation, I'd guess that he meant the same sort of disobedience that was most popular with my generation. Holding protest rallys and/or attempting to block the construction crews with their bodies.

And the next time your Union (created by gasp! liberals, not conservatives) supports better pay and benefits for you and your fellow Fire Fighters....you be sure and turn them down.

This quote is often attributed to Thomas Jefferson "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism", but sadly no one can find that he said it. He did however, say this..

]"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?

[KRAM1]

SilverEagle...great Jefferson quote! Well done...but you do realize that Jefferson favored a Republic and not a Democracy as he did not feel everyone should be allowed to vote! He favored the vote for the "elite"...not all us "common folk".

Anyway, in some professions you have to be a memebr of a union or you cannot get work. AND, Unions are not always fighting for better pay and wages...they fight often for their own self preservation and the salaries of their leadership!

My son, a graduate of the US Merchant Marine Academy, was REQUIRED to join a union in order to work on a Merchant Ship as an officer. He was REQUIRED to pay union dues whether he wanted to or not in order to be employed. They forced him to turn over a decent bit of pay in the form of Union Dues to have the opportunity to seek merchant seaman employment! NICE!

Thank goodness Texas is a right to work state. In Texas at least Rick gets to choose whether he wants to join the union and pay the dues if he so chooses.

I do realize that there are many professional unions out there that do very good work, so don't rip me for being 100% anti-union. I just don't favor "forced membership and forced salary reductions in the form of union dues".

[SilverEagle]

SilverEagle...great Jefferson quote! Well done...but you do realize that Jefferson favored a Republic and not a Democracy as he did not feel everyone should be allowed to vote! He favored the vote for the "elite"...not all us "common folk".

Anyway, in some professions you have to be a memebr of a union or you cannot get work. AND, Unions are not always fighting for better pay and wages...they fight often for their own self preservation and the salaries of their leadership!

My son, a graduate of the US Merchant Marine Academy, was REQUIRED to join a union in order to work on a Merchant Ship as an officer. He was REQUIRED to pay union dues whether he wanted to or not in order to be employed. They forced him to turn over a decent bit of pay in the form of Union Dues to have the opportunity to seek merchant seaman employment! NICE!

Thank goodness Texas is a right to work state. In Texas at least Rick gets to choose whether he wants to join the union and pay the dues if he so chooses.

I do realize that there are many professional unions out there that do very good work, so don't rip me for being 100% anti-union. I just don't favor "forced membership and forced salary reductions in the form of union dues".

Yes, I knew that Jefferson was an elitist, but considering how smart and talented he was, he kind of had a right to feel that way....certainly moreso than today's political leaders. He was also (like many of our founding fathers) a slave owner, who (sadly) took advantage of some of the slaves.

Firemen are not required to join the union (there is strong peer pressure to do so however). But join it or not, you still get the benefits that the Union gets for you. And are Unions more corrupt than those arrogant bastards on wall street that are coming to the tax payers to bail them out?

And they would be the same arrogant bastards that have helped errode the Unions, and much of the middle class in America.

[KRAM1]

I would place union executives/bosses in exactly the same catagory as those executives on Wall Street who did, in fact, take advantage of the situation for their personal gain. Not all Wall Street executives fall into that catagory as not all union exceutives fall into that catagory. Both, however, seem to have only the continuation of their own greed and pleasure at the core of their being! Union executives, like those on Wall Street who did such damage to the financial system, will do most anything to stay in power...sort of like the idiots we have in Congress these days on BOTH sides of the aisle.

I ask you...what in the world were they doing 6-7 years ago when this problem was beginning to develop???? Asleep at the wheel...that's where. Throw the bums out...all of them and start over!!!!

[SilverEagle]

I would place union executives/bosses in exactly the same catagory as those executives on Wall Street who did, in fact, take advantage of the situation for their personal gain. Not all Wall Street executives fall into that catagory as not all union exceutives fall into that catagory. Both, however, seem to have only the continuation of their own greed and pleasure at the core of their being! Union executives, like those on Wall Street who did such damage to the financial system, will do most anything to stay in power...sort of like the idiots we have in Congress these days on BOTH sides of the aisle.

I ask you...what in the world were they doing 6-7 years ago when this problem was beginning to develop???? Asleep at the wheel...that's where. Throw the bums out...all of them and start over!!!!

Is that an endorsement for Obama?.....

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

The environmentalists need to go live in the wilderness and leave us city folk alone. The sad thing is, you'd probably get maybe 5% of environmentalist who could even survive in the wilderness. Patsy-faced bed-wetters.

Anyone with TV ties, suggest this to network execs as a "Reality TV" show: Environmentalist Forced To Live Without The Stuff They Say We Shouldn't Have. I'd watch it every week to see the skinny, soap-averse wimps cringing for shelter and heat...and since they won't kill animals, real food.

Go ahead, envirodorks, show us the way. Lead. Get your boney little butts out of the city and live amongst your friends, the animals and trees.

[FirefightnRick]

Since he didn't elaborate on what he meant by "civil disobedience", and since I'm part of that generation, I'd guess that he meant the same sort of disobedience that was most popular with my generation. Holding protest rallys and/or attempting to block the construction crews with their bodies.

And the next time your Union (created by gasp! liberals, not conservatives) supports better pay and benefits for you and your fellow Fire Fighters....you be sure and turn them down.

So with this line of reasoning, Al Gore told a Liberal Labor Unionist to Key Hummers and vandalize war veteran's cars,

Or is it,

All Labor Union members who work at Coal Fire plants need to lay down in front of their own cars they vandalized themselves, thusly putting themselves out of work and no way to get home that night? Wait? Nevermind.

Rick

Edited September 26, 2008 by FirefightnRick

[JesseMartin]

The environmentalists need to go live in the wilderness and leave us city folk alone. The sad thing is, you'd probably get maybe 5% of environmentalist who could even survive in the wilderness. Patsy-faced bed-wetters.

Anyone with TV ties, suggest this to network execs as a "Reality TV" show: Environmentalist Forced To Live Without The Stuff They Say We Shouldn't Have. I'd watch it every week to see the skinny, soap-averse wimps cringing for shelter and heat...and since they won't kill animals, real food.

Go ahead, envirodorks, show us the way. Lead. Get your boney little butts out of the city and live amongst your friends, the animals and trees.

Aaron Dolson, the multicolored-dreadlock-former-Denton-mayoral-candidate, moved to Oregon or Washington or something to live in some enviro-haven. That's the last I (and anyone I've talked to that knew him) heard.

[KRAM1]

SilverEagle...I guess you do not know that Obama is a current member of the US Senate. Where have you been? He would be in the group to be THROWN OUT!

Gee, can I introduce you to TV, radio, the newspaper? I thought everyone knew Obama was a current senator although he does seem to not be able to make a decision when votes are taken in the senate..... loves that "present vote". Too bad the President cannot vote "present".

OK, SilverEagle just kidding you a bit.....

[SilverEagle]

NC

Edited September 26, 2008 by SilverEagle

[KRAM1]

So, how does Rick benefit from the union? Just wondering what they do for him that he would not be able to do without paying union dues if there were no union????? Just asking? Maybe back in the 1930's there was a vaild point to this union "stuff", but today? Seems to me the fat cat union executives just want to keep the unions going to fatten their own pockets. Seems to me unions are losing members nationwide and giving more and more "concessions" just to "stay alive".

OK, since I am not a union member, and not overly favorable of them...I think I'll back off and out of this thread...anyone is welcome to reply/rebutt...no problem...go ahead. I am "out of here"....but it is an interesting thread....

[SilverEagle]

SilverEagle...I guess you do not know that Obama is a current member of the US Senate. Where have you been? He would be in the group to be THROWN OUT!

Gee, can I introduce you to TV, radio, the newspaper? I thought everyone knew Obama was a current senator although he does seem to not be able to make a decision when votes are taken in the senate..... loves that "present vote". Too bad the President cannot vote "present".

OK, SilverEagle just kidding you a bit.....

Yes, I know that he's a senator, although he's been keeping his distance from that group. Congress has had such a sterling record in the last 8 years, maybe he wants to distance himself from that.....and hope that no one has noticed that he's officially been a part of it.

If he did nothing else in the Senate, this speech makes up for it....

Remarks of Illinois State Sen. Barack Obama

Against Going to War with Iraq

Chicago, IL | October 2, 2002

Good afternoon. Let me begin by saying that although this has been billed as an anti-war

rally, I stand before you as someone who is not opposed to war in all circumstances. The

Civil War was one of the bloodiest in history, and yet it was only through the crucible of

the sword, the sacrifice of multitudes, that we could begin to perfect this union, and drive

the scourge of slavery from our soil. I don't oppose all wars.

My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in

Patton's army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories

of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a

larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not

fight in vain. I don't oppose all wars.

After September 11th, after witnessing the carnage and destruction, the dust and the tears,

I supported this administration's pledge to hunt down and root out those who would

slaughter innocents in the name of intolerance, and I would willingly take up arms myself

to prevent such tragedy from happening again. I don't oppose all wars. And I know that in

this crowd today, there is no shortage of patriots, or of patriotism.

What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am

opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other

armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas

down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from

a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income - to distract

us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month

since the Great Depression. That's what I'm opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war

based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.

Now let me be clear -

I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man

who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN

resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons,

and coveted nuclear capacity. He's a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be

better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or

to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of

its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be

contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of

undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that

an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will

only fan the flames of the middle east, and encourage the worst, rather than best,

impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of Al Qaeda. I am not

opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars.

So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a

clear message to the president today. You want a fight, President Bush? Let's finish the

fight with Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, through effective, coordinated intelligence, and a

shutting down of the financial networks that support terrorism, and a homeland security

program that involves more than color-coded warnings. You want a fight, President

Bush?

Let's fight to make sure that the UN inspectors can do their work, and that we vigorously

enforce a non-proliferation treaty, and that former enemies and current allies like Russia

safeguard and ultimately eliminate their stores of nuclear material, and that nations like

Pakistan and India never use the terrible weapons in already in their possession, and that

the arms merchants in our own country stop feeding the countless wars that rage across

the globe. You want a fight, President Bush?

Let's fight to make sure our so-called allies in the Middle East, the Saudis and the

Egyptians, stop oppressing their own people, and suppressing dissent, and tolerating

corruption and inequality, and mismanaging their economies so that their youth grow up

without education, without prospects, without hope, the ready recruits of terrorist cells.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to wean ourselves off Middle East oil,

through an energy policy that doesn't simply serve the interests of Exxon and Mobil.

Those are the battles that we need to fight. Those are the battles that we willingly join.

The battles against ignorance and intolerance. Corruption and greed. Poverty and despair.

The consequences of war are dire, the sacrifices immeasurable. We may have occasion in

our lifetime to once again rise up in defense of our freedom, and pay the wages of war.

But we ought not -- we will not -- travel down that hellish path blindly. Nor should we

allow those who would march off and pay the ultimate sacrifice, who would prove the

full measure of devotion with their blood, to make such an awful sacrifice in vain.

Both reasonable, and prophetic.

[SilverEagle]

NC

Edited September 26, 2008 by SilverEagle

[Green Mean]

The environment is overrated.

[KRAM1]

Silver Eagle... to all who think "words" are all it takes to be President, I give you the motto of the United States Merchant Marine Academy..."ACTA NON VERBA". Pretty speeches are fine, but I vote to send my elected reps to Washington to actually do something, to represent me and all citizens and to actually VOTE on the important issues of the day!

I can see it now....Iran attacks Isreal and Congress is voting on sending troops and aid to Isreal and President Obama votes...PRESENT! He was too busy making a pretty speech! PRICELESS!!!!

[Eagle1855]

The environment is overrated.

Comments like these are like cool drinks of water on a hot summer day.

[Censored by Laurie]

Comments like these are like cool drinks of water on a hot summer day.

You know why its so hot...right?

[Green P1]

You know why its so hot...right?

[Censored by Laurie]

God...I'd love to key the shit out of that thing.

Oh dear...did we just come full circle?

[Eagle1855]

Oh dear...did we just come full circle?

Well done, gents. Now let's get back to a very important topic of discussion: the fact that liberals are commie pigs who hate freedom.

[Green P1]

Well done, gents. Now let's get back to a very important topic of discussion: the fact that liberals are commie pigs who hate freedom.

Somebody sounds like a dirty lib making fun of a conservative making fun of dirty libs.........

[Eagle1855]

Somebody sounds like a dirty lib making fun of a conservative making fun of dirty libs.........

if it makes you feel any better, conservatives hate poor people.

I don't have a party- i am a party.

[Censored by Laurie]

i am a party.

So was Godwin's muse...

[SilverEagle]

Silver Eagle... to all who think "words" are all it takes to be President, I give you the motto of the United States Merchant Marine Academy..."ACTA NON VERBA". Pretty speeches are fine, but I vote to send my elected reps to Washington to actually do something, to represent me and all citizens and to actually VOTE on the important issues of the day!

I can see it now....Iran attacks Isreal and Congress is voting on sending troops and aid to Isreal and President Obama votes...PRESENT! He was too busy making a pretty speech! PRICELESS!!!!

Well, words are a pretty good start. Especially when the words say that invading Iraq was dumb. I don't know about you, but I don't vote for people to start wars when they can't figure out anything else to do.

[FirefightnRick]

Well, words are a pretty good start. Especially when the words say that invading Iraq was dumb. I don't know about you, but I don't vote for people to start wars when they can't figure out anything else to do.

Who would ever vote for Osama Binladen?

Rick