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I like that some of you guys mentioned more about Biden...I haven't the patience to see if anyone else mentioned this in the X# posts I haven't read, but who saw the clip of him going off on gun activists about what he'd do if Obama came for his shotguns?! That was HIGH-larious!

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Maybe I missed it. Is Hastings someohow in Obama's campaign staff? Or, is it that he is just a democrat and therefore Obama can be demonized for his every flaw? Why should he need to "distance" himself from him? Can I then hold McCain responsible for every Republican who makes a stupid comment or gaff? Isn't McCain trying to distance himself from the leading Republican (the president) as we speak?

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The Associated Press is nothing but a Socialist mouthpiece for the left. The only credible source for news these days is Fox...and its online counterpart Storm Front. I promise you all those words would be in a real journalistic story...plus others like "Marx", "mainstream media", "vast socialist left-wing conspiracy" and without question "Hussein."

Really any article that DOESN'T have atleast 7 of those 10 words or phrases just isn't reliable.

You totally forgot "unpatriotic", "hates Jesus" and "clubs baby seals".

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Why should he need to "distance" himself from him?

Maybe because he's a crook and even though he was a co chairman for Hillary's campaign and gave his full support to her during the primary, he's now making embarrasing comments like those above in support for him? He's not on his staff, but he was campaigning for him. But now that I think of it, the very fact that Obama's spokeperson refused to give ABC a comment about the statements made wednesday pretty much lends to the fact that they will ignore it and hope it goes away. Just a guess?

Rick

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Oh come on Rick, even some conservatives are trying to distance themselves from Palin (too).

http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q...WMyYTUxZDkwNTE=

That's a stretch at best. Questioning someone's experience is a bit different from trying to claim you had little to no connections to someone or state that you no longer share their beliefs or converse or be seen with them publicly. When I said "distance himself" I mean to do so as he has tried to do in regards to his relationships with the terrorist Bill Ayers and convicted felon and business partner Tony Rezko and his 20-year personal associations with the hate monger Jeremiah Wright and from his own church bestowing an award to the anti-semite Louis Farrakhan. Obama realizes that any connection with these individuals hurts his campaign, and it's my oppinion that any support from Hastings would also.

Rick

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Well golly gee...

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/06/23/black/

In a recent interview with Fortune magazine, Charlie Black, a senior advisor to John McCain, said something he shouldn't have. Asked about the political impact of a hypothetical terror attack on U.S. soil between now and the general election, Black told the magazine's David Whitford that an attack would be a boon to McCain's political fortunes. "Certainly it would be a big advantage to him," Black said. Black also said the assassination of Benazir Bhutto had helped McCain politically.
McCain moved to distance himself from his advisor, saying, "I cannot imagine why he would say it. It's not true ... If he said that, and I do not know the context, I strenuously disagree."

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008...hining-america/

Via The Washington Times and TPM comes yet another embarrassment for John McCain's campaign. This time, McCain's "top economic adviser," Phil Gramm had the following to say about the lousy economy and its effects on American working men and women:
"We have sort of become a nation of whiners," he said. "You just hear this constant whining, complaints about a loss of competitiveness. America in decline" despite a major export boom that is the primary reason that growth continues in the economy, he said.

I could go on but I won't. I won't because I realize that neither of the men mentioned in the articles above are named John McCain and neither should be used to form my opinions of who he is as a man...or would be as a leader.

I mean, who would dare think of attacking the people that a candidate keeps close to them? That should be totally out of bounds. Concentrating on those who advise a candidate is downright silly...I mean, it's not like you're actually attacking the person they chose as their running mate and possible eventual President of the U.S. right? You know, since attacking a VP candidate is a sign of sheer desperation...way way different that attacking a former pastor or someone who supports a candidate. Oh wait....

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Apples to Oranges.

I could go on but I won't. I won't because I realize that neither of the men mentioned in the articles above are named John McCain and neither should be used to form my opinions of who he is as a man...or would be as a leader.

Character and what each candidate stands for counts for quite a bit to me. And leadership is important also and McCain wins in that category hands down, to me.

Rick

Rick

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Character and what each candidate stands for counts for quite a bit to me. And leadership is important also and McCain wins in that category hands down, to me.

Why, Example please!

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Character and what each candidate stands for counts for quite a bit to me.

Yup. cheating on your wife and ignoring your "sacred vows" for someone 20 years younger and hotter...now THAT is character.

Trivial, eh? So is attempting to link every semi-radical left winger to Obama is too...

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Yup. cheating on your wife and ignoring your "sacred vows" for someone 20 years younger and hotter...now THAT is character.

Trivial, eh? So is attempting to link every semi-radical left winger to Obama is too...

so is getting a real estate deal from a con Tony Rezko. I work in the mortgage industry so don't even try to act like Tony wasn't known among the industry big wigs. Obama knew what he was doing.

Disclaimer: I am NOT an industry big wig.

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Why, Example please!

For one, how about refusing offers for release that would have helped him to escape torture during his imprisonment in the Hanoi Hilton?

JayDub

Yup. cheating on your wife and ignoring your "sacred vows" for someone 20 years younger and hotter...now THAT is character.

Apparantly that's a great quality in a president if we are to go by the last liberal example who held the top office? By the way, are you married yet?

Rick

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For one, how about refusing offers for release that would have helped him to escape torture during his imprisonment in the Hanoi Hilton?

JayDub

Apparantly that's a great quality in a president if we are to go by the last liberal example who held the top office? By the way, are you married yet?

Rick

You still didn't address McCain's infidelity. Besides, no one's saying Clinton was a man of character, which is why we're not saying that now. And furthermore, why are you asking him if he's married yet?

So...yeah, how about that answer? You know, the one where you tell us how you handle McCain being unfaithful to his wife? That answer, where you actually apply yourself and tell us all how McCain's infidelity fits into that picture of character? Going to let us know how it is that McCain's character is somehow still impeccable? That the way he treated his wife is still acceptable and still makes him this shining beacon of morality?

Well, you do that and let me know how that works out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIc0EKvwJkQ

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You still didn't address McCain's infidelity. Besides, no one's saying Clinton was a man of character, which is why we're not saying that now. And furthermore, why are you asking him if he's married yet?

So...yeah, how about that answer? You know, the one where you tell us how you handle McCain being unfaithful to his wife? That answer, where you actually apply yourself and tell us all how McCain's infidelity fits into that picture of character? Going to let us know how it is that McCain's character is somehow still impeccable? That the way he treated his wife is still acceptable and still makes him this shining beacon of morality?

Well, you do that and let me know how that works out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIc0EKvwJkQ

Obama is a previous coke user and has run with some of the foulest, despicable characters we know of.

As for McCain's infadelity, even though he and his wife were separated at the time when he was 40, I'd say it's unacceptable and probably something he has to deal with personally. It's not the first time he's done wrong that's for sure. But a better arguement for you would be to mention his connection to the Keiding 5 scandal, of which he greatly regrets according to his biography and the write up about him in Time this summer. But when it comes to running this country for the betterment of this country he will have our best interest in mind, not his own. He loves this country and has paid a great and dear sacrifice for it. Something your candidate can't even come close to knowing anything about. McCain is hands down the better choice between the two.

Rick

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Obama is a previous coke user and has run with some of the foulest, despicable characters we know of.

As for McCain's infadelity, even though he and his wife were separated at the time when he was 40, I'd say it's unacceptable and probably something he has to deal with personally. It's not the first time he's done wrong that's for sure. But a better arguement for you would be to mention his connection to the Keiding 5 scandal, of which he greatly regrets according to his biography and the write up about him in Time this summer. But when it comes to running this country for the betterment of this country he will have our best interest in mind, not his own. He loves this country and has paid a great and dear sacrifice for it. Something your candidate can't even come close to knowing anything about. McCain is hands down the better choice between the two.

Rick

Ummm...Rick...I'm a previous coke user. As are half the people I know. Just because you use the stuff once or twice in college doesn't make you a crack addict that is willing to sell your first born for a fix. Also, I used to regularly run around with Stebo, Shane, and LoRo (none of which fall into that "half the people I know"). Does these facts make me a despicable person?

Waiting...waiting...

OK then. At least he admitted to the past indiscretions, said that he learned something, and didn't try to cover them up (*cough*Bush*cough*).

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Ummm...Rick...I'm a previous coke user. As are half the people I know. Just because you use the stuff once or twice in college doesn't make you a crack addict that is willing to sell your first born for a fix. Also, I used to regularly run around with Stebo, Shane, and LoRo (none of which fall into that "half the people I know"). Does these facts make me a despicable person?

Waiting...waiting...

OK then. At least he admitted to the past indiscretions, said that he learned something, and didn't try to cover them up (*cough*Bush*cough*).

Of course not, unless you also committed war on this country by bombing the Pentegon, Capital Building and Police stations, relished when it was attacked in '01 and wished you had done more harm when you tried to bomb it, or teaching hate of other races to all those who will listen to you or been convicted on 24 counts of fraud and money laundering?

Rick

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Of course not, unless you also committed war on this country by bombing the Pentegon, Capital Building and Police stations, relished when it was attacked in '01 and wished you had done more harm when you tried to bomb it, or teaching hate of other races to all those who will listen to you or been convicted on 24 counts of fraud and money laundering?

Rick

Rick, I've done things in my day that would make you cringe.

We all know that nutjob that just ain't right...that has probably done things we don't want to know about.

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Ummm...Rick...I'm a previous coke user. As are half the people I know. Just because you use the stuff once or twice in college doesn't make you a crack addict that is willing to sell your first born for a fix. Also, I used to regularly run around with Stebo, Shane, and LoRo (none of which fall into that "half the people I know"). Does these facts make me a despicable person?

Waiting...waiting...

OK then. At least he admitted to the past indiscretions, said that he learned something, and didn't try to cover them up (*cough*Bush*cough*).

my $.02 but it sure seemed to be a main issue with Bush back in 2000 if I remember, but I could care less what people are putting up their nose, butt, eyes, or other orficies so I'll shut up now.

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