I Think Enough Time Has Elapsed

Censored by Laurie · September 8, 2008

According to the game notes:

On offense UNT started - 1 senior, 3 juniors, 5 sophmores and 2 freshmen...with our leading rusher and third leading receiver being two additional freshmen

On defense UNT started - 3 seniors (1 was Ryan Davenport in his 1st season at DE), 3 juniors, 3 sophmores and 2 true freshmen

This means 12 of 22 starters were underclassmen...with quite a few others as major contributors. The reason your expectations for these players is so high is that they're at a talent level that we really haven't seen here in a considerable amount of time...atleast since I've been following NT football...but they are also 18 and 19 year olds playing in their first or second college football games. I am by no means saying I'm satisfied or happy with our play and results...but to say there hasn't been improvement...or that the future does not look bright is to me just flat wrong.

The defense thus far has been decimated by defections and injuries...Draylon Ross cracked the DL rotation this weekend, and hopefull Adryan Adams can come in and help the secondary soon. Also not sure why Kartay Agbottah was out this weekend. Despite this they made the same number of negative yardage plays (8) as the Tulsa defense...it may be grasping...but it is something

On Riley...if he's the best option, get him on the field. The same people who are complaining that his playing now means he can't start at QB in 2012 are the same people most upset that we're not more competitive now.

On Vizza...I think he needs to throw a pick. We liked the gunslinging mentality last season...before this year he made a defined effort to cut down on the mistakes, but I think its left him overthinking rather than reading and reacting.

Oh...and lets not forget...we played a very good Tulsa team who's biggest test of the season will probably be against Arkansas...a team that just snuck past ULM.

Quoner · September 8, 2008

According to the game notes:
On offense UNT started - 1 senior, 3 juniors, 5 sophmores and 2 freshmen...with our leading rusher and third leading receiver being two additional freshmen
On defense UNT started - 3 seniors (1 was Ryan Davenport in his 1st season at DE), 3 juniors, 3 sophmores and 2 true freshmen
This means 12 of 22 starters were underclassmen...with quite a few others as major contributors. The reason your expectations for these players is so high is that they're at a talent level that we really haven't seen here in a considerable amount of time...atleast since I've been following NT football...but they are also 18 and 19 year olds playing in their first or second college football games. I am by no means saying I'm satisfied or happy with our play and results...but to say there hasn't been improvement...or that the future does not look bright is to me just flat wrong.
The defense thus far has been decimated by defections and injuries...Draylon Ross cracked the DL rotation this weekend, and hopefull Adryan Adams can come in and help the secondary soon. Also not sure why Kartay Agbottah was out this weekend. Despite this they made the same number of negative yardage plays (8) as the Tulsa defense...it may be grasping...but it is something
On Riley...if he's the best option, get him on the field. The same people who are complaining that his playing now means he can't start at QB in 2012 are the same people most upset that we're not more competitive now.
On Vizza...I think he needs to throw a pick. We liked the gunslinging mentality last season...before this year he made a defined effort to cut down on the mistakes, but I think its left him overthinking rather than reading and reacting.
Oh...and lets not forget...we played a very good Tulsa team who's biggest test of the season will probably be against Arkansas...a team that just snuck past ULM.

The real problem is that there is no middle ground between frustrated and bat-shit crazy mad on the board anymore.

You either follow Dodge to hell and back or you break out the pentagram and try to resurrect the Dickey-monster with an elaborate ceremony involving animal sacrifice.

We need a good, balanced approach - perhaps like the offense Tulsa runs.

filmerj · September 8, 2008

According to the game notes:
On offense UNT started - 1 senior, 3 juniors, 5 sophmores and 2 freshmen...with our leading rusher and third leading receiver being two additional freshmen
On defense UNT started - 3 seniors (1 was Ryan Davenport in his 1st season at DE), 3 juniors, 3 sophmores and 2 true freshmen
This means 12 of 22 starters were underclassmen...with quite a few others as major contributors. The reason your expectations for these players is so high is that they're at a talent level that we really haven't seen here in a considerable amount of time...atleast since I've been following NT football...but they are also 18 and 19 year olds playing in their first or second college football games. I am by no means saying I'm satisfied or happy with our play and results...but to say there hasn't been improvement...or that the future does not look bright is to me just flat wrong.
The defense thus far has been decimated by defections and injuries...Draylon Ross cracked the DL rotation this weekend, and hopefull Adryan Adams can come in and help the secondary soon. Also not sure why Kartay Agbottah was out this weekend. Despite this they made the same number of negative yardage plays (8) as the Tulsa defense...it may be grasping...but it is something
On Riley...if he's the best option, get him on the field. The same people who are complaining that his playing now means he can't start at QB in 2012 are the same people most upset that we're not more competitive now.
On Vizza...I think he needs to throw a pick. We liked the gunslinging mentality last season...before this year he made a defined effort to cut down on the mistakes, but I think its left him overthinking rather than reading and reacting.
Oh...and lets not forget...we played a very good Tulsa team who's biggest test of the season will probably be against Arkansas...a team that just snuck past ULM.

I gotta admit, after Saturday I was really pissed, I mean really pissed, sometimes it hurts more when you know what you have invested, time and money (A lot of money). So when you get a performance like that it makes it that much harder to take. It took me all weekend to get over it. I, like most people am tired of the jokes, and want to be able to play with the big boys. That being said, I have to agree with you... We all need to take a breath. give TD some time, but most of all give these kids some time.

GMoney · September 8, 2008

Good post.

e-bone ver2.awesome · September 8, 2008

I've been wondering, and the FWST mentioned it for me: there are of the 101 players on the team, 43 are freshmen. Another 19 are sophomores. What does everyone really expect when Dickey took his last 2-3 years off from recruiting and left Dodge to not only find players to fit his system, but D1A level players in general?