Biden Speaking

[UNTflyer]

Whoa. Ummm...you're either calling the exiting administration liberal or you've missed the last 8 years.

Point #5 is a position embraced by both parties.

[Censored by Laurie]

Point #5 is a position embraced by both parties.

And they say there is no bi-partisanship these days

[JesseMartin]

I actually feel the same about the Democratic Party as a whole...they keep the poor dependent on programs they (Dems) support, thus nearly mandating their (poor people's) votes. Again, that's an overall view. There are some Democrats-both voters and candidates/office holders that I respect. It's kind of like the Republicans' dependence upon the religious right to keep them in-not all R's are a part of he religious right, and not all R candidates/office holders pander to them, but there are enough that make it a problem.

As for Libertarians, they'd have more of a chance if all of their public figures/spokespeople/officers (at least that I've seen/met) weren't freaking insane.

[emmitt01]

Why is the response to criticism of the Democratic Party usually snide or full of anger?

Because most criticism of the Democratic Party is full of fear mongering and straw men. Tit for tat.

Nobody said either side was truly rational.

[UNTFan23]

Don't all political candidates promise change?

[Green P1]

You've noticed that as well. It's because they (particularly their leadership) are elitist and feel like they are superior to working class Americans.

So you're saying Democrats/Republicans = SMU/UNT?

Edited August 29, 2008 by Green P1

[Coffee and TV]

It's because they (particularly their leadership) are elitist

talking point.

and feel like they are superior to working class Americans.

talking point.

They are the liberal rich who pander to the poor

talking point.

and will not abide anyone who dares to challenge their empty suit candidate.

talking point.

Thought you always bragged about being a 'free thinker'?

[Censored by Laurie]

Please tell me someone is listening to Muse discuss politics...I heart Gordon and Jub so hard right now...probably falling on deaf and dumb ears.

[Cerebus]

Don't all political candidates promise change?

Not the guy I'm voting for: Cthulhu.

He promises to quickly devour those who vote for him. Those who vote against him are slowly devoured.

Cthulhu 2008: Why vote for a lesser evil?

Vote Cthulhu: No More Years!

[Quoner]

Not the guy I'm voting for: Cthulhu.

He promises to quickly devour those who vote for him. Those who vote against him are slowly devoured.

Cthulhu 2008: Why vote for a lesser evil?

Vote Cthulhu: No More Years!

I see your Cthulu and raise you a Robot Nixon:

[JayDub]

I'm getting annoyed with the back and forth between 3 people...so I'm shutting down the threads that have got the the point of borderline personal.

I'm good with political discussion of both sides...but I think we all need a time out for a bit. I have left a couple of them open because those threads are (as of now) still in the realm of civil discourse.