Well, This Is Bad News/good News

flyeater · July 17, 2008

College Confidential blog.

H-towngreen · July 17, 2008

This is bad news, worse news. We are in deep trouble in a spot where 2 weeks ago we had 2 potential All-Belt DE's. Wow!!

NorthTexan95 · July 17, 2008

Bad news for this season, good news for the future (stadium).

DeLoach definately will earn his pay this season.

BIG DAWG · July 17, 2008

Holy SH!T

I cannot believe all this is happening...is the sky truly falling? What did we do to deserve so much bad karma lately???

My head is spinning and I am feeling like vomiting!

UNTflyer · July 17, 2008

Very encouraging news on the stadium. At least we now know there is a serious effort to get a corporate sponsor.

BIG DAWG · July 17, 2008

We do not have ONE...game ready DE on the roster!

This is absolutely RIDICULOUS! I still cannot believe this is happening!

We went from having Horton and Gilmore, maybe the best tandem in the Sunbelt to having anyone's best guess at DE!

Yes, we have players that have the POTENTIAL to step up, but we know the story about POTENTIAL!

We have equally the same chance at them being inadequate at this stage in their careers as we do any of them being studs...in matter of fact I would say due to age and lack of experience at this level, we are closer to trouble with any of the DE's on our roster than we are to solid.

Words cannot say how disappointed and PISSED I am at our current situation...not jsut at DE, but the whole damned program! We are not even close to where 90% think we are, and we should be in a lot better situation!

I have never been so pissed when it wasn't directly tied to the outcome of a game than I am right now, and like I said, it isn't just the DE situation, but the direction of the whole damned thing!!! :angry: :angry: <_< <_< :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

Edited July 17, 2008 by BIG DAWG

UNT Mean Green · July 17, 2008

this is no beuno at D-End!

this is bueno on the Stadium.

eulessismore · July 17, 2008

Well, this article from CFN, written last May seems prescient, especially this line:

Player who has to step up and become a star: Sophomore DEs Sam Owusu-Hemeng & Marquis Sykes.

I am wondering if someone could give me a little insight on Owusu-Hemeng, I didn't even find him listed on the Roster at Meangreensports.

2008 North Texas Preview - Defense

SilverEagle · July 17, 2008

GEEZE LOUISE! :angry:

For a stadium sponsor to be found, we need to have a significant turnaround from last season. The defense was/is going to be the center of that tuirnaround. Gillmore and Horton were being counted on to help make that defensive turnaround happen.

Well, we are certainly going to find out what sort of character our current players, and coaches, have.... <_<

flyeater · July 17, 2008

Quite an opportunity out there now for some DE or DEs...provided they're willing to take and run with it. Anyone with a realistic shot at contributing at DE who needs kick to the ass for motivation need not apply.

Taco Bueno-Fouts Stadium.

GoMeanGreen1999 · July 17, 2008

I am not exactly sure how you get to the point of stating that what is said in this blog is actually "Good" news concerning our stadium. I would actually say this is bad news. RV would like all of us to think that it is good news by simply telling us something we didn't know, but they are not even going to address the student fee until all other options are exhausted?

island eagle · July 17, 2008

We do not have ONE...game ready DE on the roster!
This is absolutely RIDICULOUS! I still cannot believe this is happening!
We went from having Horton and Gilmore, maybe the best tandem in the Sunbelt to having anyone's best guess at DE!
Yes, we have players that have the POTENTIAL to step up, but we know the story about POTENTIAL!
We have equally the same chance at them being inadequate at this stage in their careers as we do any of them being studs...in matter of fact I would say due to age and lack of experience at this level, we are closer to trouble with any of the DE's on our roster than we are to solid.
Words cannot say how disappointed and PISSED I am at our current situation...not jsut at DE, but the whole damned program! We are not even close to where 90% think we are, and we should be in a lot better situation!
I have never been so pissed when it wasn't directly tied to the outcome of a game than I am right now, and like I said, it isn't just the DE situation, but the direction of the whole damned thing!!!

If I fault TD for one thing it is this. It was obvious that this was a big need area when he took the job. It hasn't been addressed and now will take a miracle for us to pull it out. Maybe some of the unproven returning players will suddenly blossom and maybe our current crop of signees (on the defensive line, both inside and out) will turn out to be real surprises and MAYBE I will win the mega-lotto, but I don't base my financial planning on it. There are some indications that this next recruiting class will focus more on defense. Unfortunately, it is about 2 years too late.

H-towngreen · July 17, 2008

Kyle Russo???

mean green d · July 17, 2008

We need some belief here guys. Cole will fill one side and another player will fill the void. Perhaps there is time for another late signee. There is alot

of untapped youngsters. I still believe in the Mean Green.

GMG

UNTflyer · July 17, 2008

I agree. Expectations were kinda low for this season. We had some surprises last year in Vizza and Fitzgerald. Hopefully someone can step up and fill in at DE.

greenminer · July 17, 2008

Show me the money.

Also caught this:

Thomas Moreland, last year's starting kicker, is gone.

Zeke · July 17, 2008

This is a huge loss. I predict we won't give up 45 points a game like we did last year though. The defense will be better than last year. You can't sugar coat losing these 2 guys though.

BIG DAWG · July 17, 2008

I still believe in the Mean Green.

You are a better man than I...

I am still going to back this team just like i did on that freezing...rainy day against Western Ky, but I am finding less to fire me up and more to cringe about than I have in a lot of years

FirefightnRick · July 17, 2008

Kyle Russo???

:ph34r:

Rick

SUMG · July 17, 2008

This sucks. I too, am tired of bad news.

But I will leave with this encouraging thought: When we beat Tennessee in 1975....we did it with our 3rd string quarterback. (Glen "Joe Willie" Ray).

eulessismore · July 17, 2008

We need some belief here guys. Cole will fill one side and another player will fill the void. Perhaps there is time for another late signee. There is alot
of untapped youngsters. I still believe in the Mean Green.
GMG

You know, you have a good point, as did H-towngreen in mentioning Russo. Honestly, Russo was a first team all state selection as a senior on a state championship team; were we just planning on using him as a backup, and what of Marquis Sykes, first team all-district as a senior, and his team's defensive mvp and leading tackler, another reserve? We need to start looking at the players we do have, many of whom were highly recruited. Honestly, just looking at the bios of players like Draylen Ross, I have to wonder if in fact, the Dickey regime didn't have some pretty good defensive players who ended up not being well used by our DC Mendoza last year. The local high school here, Euless Trinity, has offensive and defensive linemen that are highly praised, but they won a state championship last year with an o-line that was patched up due to injuries early on, leading to a rotation scheme which became a strength in the playoffs. On the defensive side, Mao Leota and Robert Griffin hardly played any significant time in the state championship game. I'll never forget reading what Coach Lineweaver said, that rotating players frequently was a good morale builder.

greenminer · July 17, 2008

This hurts. It'll be interesting to see how DeLoach compensates.

...reiterating: we have someone who knows how to compensate. FWIW, our influx of DB talent puts us in a position to be pretty creative behind the line.

GoMeanGreen1999 · July 17, 2008

Well, how many more decades do we need to wait before they admit those options are exhausted?
And even with, best case scenario here, they find that elusive naming sponsor, can you imagine the P.O.S. stadium that they may want built? Remember that krap stadium design where the fans were all stuck on upper decks while the stadium was designed to cater to the non-existant fans of mystery company by placing the corporate boxes at field level? If you guys think Fouts was a shitty design.....this new stadium would guarantee fans wouldn't want to attend games and would knock the program back into the 1AA ranks.
Be careful what you hope for, you may get it. That stadium would never be replaced and North Texas would eventually lose football because of it.
On the other hand, the university administration could decide to do what's long overdue and Fix The Problem.

Where I have I been - has this design been out there for a while? This has to be one of the dumbest ideas I have seen for a D1 football stadium. We would definately be the talk of stadiums right up there with that blue field in Boise.

Dodge2007 · July 17, 2008

The Mean Green D can't get a break. Deloach is going to have to be superman and two or three players will have to come out of nowhere.

This is borderline ridiculous.

UNTflyer · July 17, 2008

Where I have I been - has this design been out there for a while? This has to be one of the dumbest ideas I have seen for a D1 football stadium. We would definately be the talk of stadiums right up there with that blue field in Boise.

That drawing is so old... there is no way that will be the final design.From what I understand, they are looking at a single tier horseshoe design, kinda like SMU.

Edited July 17, 2008 by UNTflyer