Wac Teams Get Their '07-'08 Fiscal Year Payday

[MeanGreen61]

Hawaii $4,922,062

Boise State $1,672,056

Nevada $1,380,377

Fresno State $1,308,608

San jose State $971,747

Louisiana Tech $855,015

Utah State $800,247

Idaho $800, 247

New Mexico State $432,197

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbc.../807060362/1032

[LoveMG]

and what did unt receive from the sunbelt?

[MeanGreenBuzz]

What do you want to bet that LaTech made out worse in that deal after expenses than if it had been in the belt?

[MDH]

Fresno got less than Nevada how?? I guess UNR got more of a share in the @ss kicking they received from New Mexico in the New Mexico Bowl than Fresno State did handling Georgia Tech in the Roadys (LOL) Humanitarian Bowl...

[UNT_playmaker]

and what did unt receive from the sunbelt?

less recruits, fans, attendance, big money donors, and rivalry games.

The gift that will never stop giving.

[emmitt01]

and what did unt receive from the sunbelt?

Not flying our swimming and diving, women's soccer, both basketball teams, golf, tennis, and softball teams all over the country. More fuel money, especially given the current prices.

[UNTFan23]

less recruits, fans, attendance, big money donors, and rivalry games.

The gift that will never stop giving.

Rivalry games? The only team in the WAC we've played semi-regularly is New Mexico State. With the other WAC schools, unless they are former SBC or Big West schools, we might have played them all a handful of times.

"Your over-confidence is your weakness."

Edited July 8, 2008 by UNTFan23

[Quoner]

If I was a fan of another SBC school who had to listen to how NT owns the Belt for four years while simply bending over and taking it while the fans got cockier, I would be annoyed.

If I was a fan of another SBC school who had to listen to how NT owns the Belt for four years and then rose up and beat NT, I would be ecstatic.

If I was a fan of another SBC school who kept beating down an NT team that went 7-26 over a three year period while having their fans continue to explain how they deserve to be in a better conference, I wouldn't know whether to laugh, be pissed off, or just feel sorry for the people saying it.

Edited July 8, 2008 by Quoner

[MDH]

^^ As on outsider coming in, that is exactly how I feel.

How some people post on here you'd swear UNT was a top 10 team....not bottom 10. I think we've got some great potential but until it matures, sit back and relax-focus on winning the Belt again.

[Guest GrayEagleOne]

^^ As on outsider coming in, that is exactly how I feel.

How some people post on here you'd swear UNT was a top 10 team....not bottom 10. I think we've got some great potential but until it matures, sit back and relax-focus on winning the Belt again.

You are right in your assessment but after the last three years we have to think positive. If and when changes come we have to be ready for them. If we are not a Top 50 program by then we may be left in the cold.

Some do go a little overboard, both in assessing our program and in putting down others. They may be (jerks) but they are our (jerks). It's better to have misplaced enthusiasm than apathy.

Welcome to the Mean Breen Board. Hope that you enjoy your stay.

[UNT_playmaker]

Rivalry games? The only team in the WAC we've played semi-regularly is New Mexico State. With the other WAC schools, unless they are former SBC or Big West schools, we might have played them all a handful of times.

"Your over-confidence is your weakness."

Well at least someone is excited about being the Sun Belt. But really which team are you looking forward to UNT playing this season, FIU, FAU, or Western Kentucky...Huge rivalry potential in all three of those teams.

CUSA or bust for UNT........

[UNTLifer]

Well at least someone is excited about being the Sun Belt. But really which team are you looking forward to UNT playing this season, FIU, FAU, or Western Kentucky...Huge rivalry potential in all three of those teams.

CUSA or bust for UNT........

All of them, because North Texas is playing. I don't go to, watch on TV or listen to on the radio or internet because of our opponent.

[UNTFan23]

Well at least someone is excited about being the Sun Belt. But really which team are you looking forward to UNT playing this season, FIU, FAU, or Western Kentucky...Huge rivalry potential in all three of those teams.

CUSA or bust for UNT........

I'd say just as much rivalry potential as San Jose State, Idaho, and Fresno State.

[Travis]

If I was a fan of another SBC school who kept beating down an NT team that went 7-26 over a three year period while having their fans continue to explain how they deserve to be in a better conference, I wouldn't know whether to laugh, be pissed off, or just feel sorry for the people saying it.

which blows my mind why CUSA took such a crappy smu program.

[MeanGreen61]

which blows my mind why CUSA took such a crappy smu program.

Actually SMU and Rice weren't a shoo-in for membership. The Tulane Prez pushed for them to be in a package deal with Tulsa. President of a private school pushing membership for 3 private schools.

Edited July 8, 2008 by MeanGreen61

[Quoner]

Actually SMU and Rice wereen't a shoo-in for membership. The Tulane Prez pushed for them to be in a package deal with Tulsa. President of a private school pushing membership for 3 private schools.

Maybe SMU's overall program (for example, this year's #70 ranking in the directors cup) had something to do with it.

Oh, and Rice was #88.

[Arkstfan]

Actually SMU and Rice wereen't a shoo-in for membership. The Tulane Prez pushed for them to be in a package deal with Tulsa. President of a private school pushing membership for 3 private schools.

It was all about the money.

Tulane's threat was to defect to the WAC. If TCU were invited to the MWC (which we now know did happen, and would happen if SMU and Rice were invited), that defection would have caused CUSA to forfeit all of its NCAA basketball units and Marquette, Louisville, and Cincinnati had racked up a bunch. Those units would have gone to the school earning them rather than the conference. Without those units, Marshall is better off in the MAC. UCF might have still be interested but CUSA would have been Memphis, Southern Miss, Houston, UAB, and ECU and had less money than the Sun Belt though still with some TV deals assuming they weren't canceled or renegotiated. That assumes Houston wouldn't have headed to the WAC with Tulane, which they might well have done.

If Tulane and Houston had defected CUSA would have been down to four, five with UCF. The question would have been do those schools join the Sun Belt where they can have an automatic NCAA berth or do they work with 7 of the Sun Belt to form a new league and wait the 5-6 years for an auto berth. Idaho and Utah State probably get cut loose. FAU probably doesn't get an invite. Football only member ULM maybe gets full membership, maybe gets cut loose. Non-football members possibly get cut loose including FIU.

Could have been a very interesting scenario.

Likewise, if Tulane doesn't throw a snit, SMU, Rice, Tulsa and later UTEP stay put in the WAC and the Memphis plan is followed where CUSA adds only Marshall and UCF to get to 9. TCU insiders claim they were set to turn down MWC if CUSA sticks at nine but found SMU & Rice untenable. That means MWC ends up staying put or adding either Boise, Fresno or Hawaii but only one. That leaves the WAC at 9 and likely either adding no one or adding USU.

Tulane really reshaped the game.

[badgerwolf]

Saw this on the Tech Board and thought it might be of interest to some:

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.d...337/1001/SPORTS

Tech's WAC check decreases

BY JIMMY WATSON • JIMWATSON@GANNETT.COM • JULY 10, 2008

Not that anyone in the Louisiana Tech athletic department is complaining, but the 2008 disbursement check from the WAC was down compared to last year, despite the league getting a football team in a BCS bowl game for a second consecutive season.

Tech's WAC dividend check was for $855,015 and it included $410,555 in BCS monies, down from $1.1 million ($559,222 BCS) in 2007. Tech received $667,000 from the WAC in 2006 without a BCS bowl game.

"It certainly helps, but it's not the solution. It won't pay the bills and won't put food on the table," Tech athletic director Derek Dooley said, speaking figuratively. "We're in a different situation from a lot of schools in that we've made a commitment to move our athletic department forward. And we needed that money.

"But it wasn't the windfall for us that is was for other schools. We're doing our best to raise all revenue streams."

"The decline in revenue was due to Boise and Hawaii not playing in the bowl games in their hometowns. Neither game sold out without them," Benson said. "Expenses were up due to sending Hawaii to the Sugar Bowl and sending Boise to Hawaii. That left each team with a smaller payout. But we did generate more money this year."

In addition to the BCS dollars and the WAC tournament payout, Tech's WAC stipend came from the NCAA men's basketball tournament pool and from entry fees paid by Utah State, NMSU and Idaho to join the conference.

[VideoEagle]

Saw this on the Tech Board and thought it might be of interest to some:

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.d...337/1001/SPORTS

In addition to the BCS dollars and the WAC tournament payout, Tech's WAC stipend came from the NCAA men's basketball tournament pool and from entry fees paid by Utah State, NMSU and Idaho to join the conference.

Usually when a school joins a conference, their “fee” is to forgo the revenue sharing from the conference for a year or two. So the three schools don’t actually pay cash, they just don’t get any of the revenue and the other schools in the conference get a bigger cut for a year or two. In any case, at some point the three schools will either stop paying or just start sharing in the revenue which will further reduce the conference payout per school.