Tulsa World - Cusa Rumored To Lose Ecu, Memphis

[MeanGreen61]

Agreed there is a pure hate relationship with SMU, but theirs is more by refusing to acknowledge that NT is even a player on the college scene. Rolling over when we play them only reenforces this public image, and now with June Jones why do they want to even entertain the idea of lowering their vision for their programs by playing us? Our leaders either need to step up to the plate with a D-! athletic budget or get back to the Southland like they are now funding for.

It ain't doom & gloom Where exactly have we rolled over for them ? The last 4 games have been 2 UNT wins, 2 SMU wins.

'90 UNT 14 SMU 7

'92 SMU 28-14

'06 UNT 24 SMU 6

'07 SMU 45 UNT 31

Edited June 8, 2008 by MeanGreen61

[DallasGreen]

Four games played with a school 30 minutes away in the last two decades--that in itself shows how little they think of NT. As I recall last year was a two touchdown loss, it wasn't that close, and I find it embarrassing that that was SMU's ONLY win. Guess you have much lower expectations. Personally I'm very weary of all the "potential, rebuilding, false stadium rumors, and general propaganda" we are fed as the program continues its downward spiral.

Edited June 8, 2008 by DallasGreen

[DallasGreen]

It ain't doom & gloom Where exactly have we rolled over for them ? The last 4 games have been 2 UNT wins, 2 SMU wins.

'90 UNT 14 SMU 7

'92 SMU 28-14

'06 UNT 24 SMU 6

'07 SMU 45 UNT 31

overall record 4-28-1, a win percentage of 12.5% BTW 2007 'STANGS WERE NOT EXACTLY A COLLEGE FOOTBALL POWERHOUSE CONSIDERING UNT WAS THEIR ONLY WIN.

[MeanGreen61]

overall record 4-28-1, a win percentage of 12.5% BTW 2007 'STANGS WERE NOT EXACTLY A COLLEGE FOOTBALL POWERHOUSE CONSIDERING UNT WAS THEIR ONLY WIN.

Means ZIP. All but 5 games were played over 20 years ago.

[untjim1995]

Is there really a rift in conferences between public schools vs. privates? I don't hear this as a problem in the Big12 or MWC. I think the Big East issue is mostly all-sports schools vs basketball only schools which just happen to also be private catholic schools. I believe SMUt hates us because we are a public school in their territory but I don't think we get the same hate from TCU or Baylor.

There is no rift in the Big XII because there is a quid pro quo relationship betewwn Baylor (who gets the great majority of their revenue from the large public schools who fill up their stadium each year and give them all of the bowl revenue that their program hasn't added to since the Clinton administration) and the Big XII gets a team that gives the other teams a win toward becoming bowl-eligible. Of course, it helps that Baylor also has good academics to make the conference look better, too. The MWC needed a new market to tap into with TCU, who has a program that fit their league well and also knew that TCU wanted NOTHING to do with SMU or Rice as far as being conference mates again. Obviously, both of these schools have always had terrific support from their students, alumni, and communities. I don't remember SMU being that fortunate with support--which makes their disdain for UNT even more unbelievable. I will say this, if we take off like we all want to see us to, then I may be in the group that says no to playing SMU anymore. When they need a game to get some local interest going because they continue to suck, that nice crowd they got in Dallas last year when we visited should serve as a nice memory for what they could have continued enjoying for years if they weren't so snooty.