Incoming Players?

[THOR]

So? Lots of other students get their education paid too, that's such a cop out reason. I'm not quite sure if you are ashamed to offer up that tid bit, but you should be. My education was paid for, and there was no public message board with jack assery announcing to the world when I slipped out of class to use the bathroom.

you're right, there wasn't....but you didn't play a high profile sport. it comes with the territory. nobody cares about rhodes and merit scholars...no message board will ever be around to talk about that type of stuff! college sports are not amateurish anymore...the kids know that...everyone knows that....it's part of the territory. if you're going to play major d1 sports, you've got to learn to deal with criticism....it's time to grow up...you're in college now...deal with it and learn from it. if you can't accept the criticism, then why should you get to accept the accolades???

Edited February 14, 2008 by radiogreen

[LAZER]

Roman and Ealey leaving were posted in the FWST blog.........FWST BLOG

[nautique]

I guess I was wrong about some players leaving. My bad. 4 or 5 have now left. Some of you said I was full of crap but not on this deal. And when I'm wrong I'll admit it.

[NTPhiKap99]

I guess I was wrong about some players leaving. My bad. 4 or 5 have now left. Some of you said I was full of crap but not on this deal. And when I'm wrong I'll admit it.

You really can't take credit or contribute it to your anonymous source when the the FWST blog was posted before your thread.

[MeanMag]

you're right, there wasn't....but you didn't play a high profile sport. it comes with the territory. nobody cares about rhodes and merit scholars...no message board will ever be around to talk about that type of stuff! college sports are not amateurish anymore...the kids know that...everyone knows that....it's part of the territory. if you're going to play major d1 sports, you've got to learn to deal with criticism....it's time to grow up...you're in college now...deal with it and learn from it. if you can't accept the criticism, then why should you get to accept the accolades???

I know what you are saying, but what kind of a fan are you when you do that? Just because it's high profile doesn't make it okay! This is your team. With players going to your school. These are the players you should care about and empathize with because they chose to come here to play for your school, in this case from California - miles from anything familiar. When they don't perform are you going to kick them to the curb? You going to tell your brother off the bball court, then when he quits say "thank god he's gone" on a message board where not only he, but every friend, acquaintance and family member can know what the "fans" think? You might expect getting heckled or booed from an opponent, but to have it from your own fans is like a stab in the back. They aren't having a completely different experience from when you or I went to school. They walk the same hallways, and may have the same professors and major! The only difference is they add working out, and playing football where you, like I, might have had a job. I'm not saying they are doing more or less work than you or I, just a different set of challenges.

This isn't run of the mill criticism about a player making a dumb decision or playing bad. This is cheering and saying good riddance to a student-athlete whom to my understanding did nothing but give his best out there on the field when if there was someone else out there who was better, decided to go elsewhere. That's borderline evil. Think that type of stuff if you want to, but save it to tell someone around a water cooler, a friend, or even say it under your breath.

In my opinion, even if they were pros it takes a very horrible fan and mean spirited person to rejoice when a player on your team leaves. These are usually the same fans who complain about alumni loyalty...Just drop it and move on is all I am saying. Take the high road. I'm not trying to lecture people on what it means to be a fanatic. I'm just asking you to support your guys, because your opponent isn't going to.

Edit: RadioGreen, this isn't specifically directed at you, you weren't even the one who said anything, so don't take it personal. Talking to members of this board is like preaching to the choir usually. It kind of runs along that old adage - If you don't have anything good (or funny) to say don't say anything at all... I took a few liberties with that, but it's necessary... right Tina Yothers?

Edited February 14, 2008 by MeanMag

[greenminer]

there are those who claim to be fans and fall into one of the following (disclaimer: not meant to be end-all-be-all):

1) The cheerleader who's always waiving the pompoms and yelling. They don't even care what's going on the field. If things are in an ugly tailspin, they will be there no matter what, cheering the crowd on and showing the "We're #1" attitude. They don't question why things are good/bad. Just wear the school colors and smile.

2) The chair fans. They aren't there to cheer. They are there to see their program succeed big time, and thus aren't afraid to call things like they are. If bad play is happening on the field, they want change.

I think I posted something this like a year ago? The off-season is a vicious loop

[MeanMag]

there are those who claim to be fans and fall into one of the following (disclaimer: not meant to be end-all-be-all):

2) The chair fans. They aren't there to cheer. They are there to see their program succeed big time, and thus aren't afraid to call things like they are. If bad play is happening on the field, they want change.

I think I posted something this like a year ago? The off-season is a vicious loop

your second type of fan is the only type I am. I call things like they are, but I don't berate our players on a public forum with the intent to belittle/humiliate after they have left a team. And I will always support our team and our guys.

Edited February 15, 2008 by MeanMag

[Green Gas]

there are those who claim to be fans and fall into one of the following (disclaimer: not meant to be end-all-be-all):

1) The cheerleader who's always waiving the pompoms and yelling. They don't even care what's going on the field. If things are in an ugly tailspin, they will be there no matter what, cheering the crowd on and showing the "We're #1" attitude. They don't question why things are good/bad. Just wear the school colors and smile.

2) The chair fans. They aren't there to cheer. They are there to see their program succeed big time, and thus aren't afraid to call things like they are. If bad play is happening on the field, they want change.

I think I posted something this like a year ago? The off-season is a vicious loop

The best fans are a good mix of both of your categories, not blind, but don't get critical enough to turn negative or not see the big picture do to a couple of problems.