Archie Candidate For Coaching Staff

[Daddy Dumpsalot]

Not to be the negative one but do we really need another defensive coach with little to no college experience? If anything I think we have enough former high school coaches on staff. On the flip side I do like that he played for us and would be passionate about getting our defense up and running.

[Dodge2007]

Not to be the negative one but do we really need another defensive coach with little to no college experience? If anything I think we have enough former high school coaches on staff. On the flip side I do like that he played for us and would be passionate about getting our defense up and running.

Big Daddy, I am right there with you. But Emmitt keeps breaking my chops, wow that hurts.

[UNTLifer]

Not to be the negative one but do we really need another defensive coach with little to no college experience? If anything I think we have enough former high school coaches on staff. On the flip side I do like that he played for us and would be passionate about getting our defense up and running.

Ramone played here and coached here. What else do you want from a position coach? HS coaches move up to take position coach opportunities all the time.

[FirefightnRick]

My two cents.

To me, I give a hell of a lot of weight to the thought of someone "working from the heart". Many people go to work, do their job the best of their abilities and go home. But some "work from the heart". They have a passion that leads them to take their jobs personally, sometimes they even take it home with them mentally and I'm sure many here on GMG.com do this and know what I'm talking about. One person who did this in regards to North Texas athletics who I witnessed doing it while I attended there was our very own "drex" who always seemed to "work from the heart" when he was working for our athletic department back in the 80's. He had absolutely nothing in means of a budget compared to today's current budget to get hardly anything accomplished but he did it from "working from the heart" because he loves North Texas, so very much. He took it home with him each night and on the weekends. Sometimes this kind of working yourself to death isn't good for people. But this was "drex", his work was his passion because he is a product of North Texas and he's proud of it and it's accomplishments. He couldn't stand the thought of the bigger schools getting anything over on us, he took it personally and was always coming up with something somewhat innovative. He was responsible for coming up with one of our oldest current symbols, the "NT BATTLE FLAG". He also came up with innovative promotionals like the "Taste of North Texas" that would occur the day of and DURING a home basketball game that resulted in some of our largest, best BB crowds of that time. For those newbies think similar to the Ok State crowd that showed up, but instead saw us play UTA Somehow, and I still don't know how he pulled it off, but after NT made it's first trip to the NCAA's in '88 he managed to get us a Billboard on I-35E just to remind those passing by who we were. It was freaking great. Everyone driving by each day to work and back saw it and this was even better later that year when we were ranked #1 nationally in 1-AA football following the win over Tech that season as you can imagine how many Tech alumni who travel that road each day. Someone like "drex" took it personally as a slap to the face that any school looked down their nose at us and he worked tirelessly to improve things he could control. And I'm sure this is the same passion that led him(as an alumnus, not an employee mind you) to help get Fouts it's new face lift this past summer, which was perfect timing to start off the Todd Dodge era.

So it is for me as to why I'm willing to give a Greenblood a chance here at North Texas over someone who may have more experience because I think RA will no doubt take it personally as an alumnus. He will take it not just as another job, not just as another pay check, but also a job in which he will "work from the heart" to help our DC right this ship.

Rick

Edited January 17, 2008 by FirefightnRick

[stebo]

Wow, I don't think that I have ever got to do this...

[eulesseagle]

IMHO, I would not be opposed to him being a graduate assisant coach so he can learn a "new system" but not a FT paid Offensive or Defensive assistant. Just about everyone was screaming last year about Coach Mendoza (Coach Mendoza played college football and was the DC at the "most" sucessful HS football program in the state and he had about 25-30 coaching experience).

Many of us want us to be like TCU, Boise State or Hawaii who fields a consistant winner every year. Can you afford to take chances on someone who was an assistant college coach one year and a few years as a high school coach? Personally, I am thrilled that RA wants to apply for the job but I also think that there are better qualified coaches "out there" who know all the various systems without going through a learning curve. UNT went through a "learning curve" last year with a HS coach that had a better football coaching "resume" than RA. I have never personally met RA and I am sure he is an outstanding individual and coach but this is not the time to experiment on former players who want to try their hand at coaching when UNT is in a "serious" effort to rebuild a program into national prominance and good enough to jump to a better conference.

Only TD knows what he is looking for on the two vacancies and what we know about Coach Dodge he will not tell us, for obvious reasons.

I will support whoever Coach Dodge gets to fill the two positions if RA is included in the program or not. Heck we should all know how hard the coaching profession is......just look at the turnover every year......

[UNTLifer]

Man, quit selling Archie short. The man played ball here and is now a football coach. We aren't taking a chance on him. If DeLoach is hired, Ramone played for him and knows his system. He doesn't need to learn TD's only DeLoach's, a system he played in for two years. Coaching DB's is coaching DB's.

[EagleMBA]

Eulesseagle and others have legitimate viewpoints; IMO RA doesn't fall into that category, however, and shouldn't be tarred with that brush. If Ramone and TD have rapport, he should be given every consideration. He has the intangibles that I would like to see in our coaches and he is a known quantity. My only regret is that I somehow missed meeting him personally during tailgating last fall. I understand the concerns expressed by some, and I know they truly want the best for the program. As for me, if TD hires GD and RA I would feel very confident that he has covered his area of need quite well.

[UNTLifer]

Eulesseagle and others have legitimate viewpoints; IMO RA doesn't fall into that category, however, and shouldn't be tarred with that brush. If Ramone and TD have rapport, he should be given every consideration. He has the intangibles that I would like to see in our coaches and he is a known quantity. My only regret is that I somehow missed meeting him personally during tailgating last fall. I understand the concerns expressed by some, and I know they truly want the best for the program. As for me, if TD hires GD and RA I would feel very confident that he has covered his area of need quite well.

Well said.

[Got5onIt]

The guy obviously knows DeLoach's system, played at the D1 level (which is more that what many high school/college coaches have done), & already has coaching experience. He sounds more than qualified in my book. As a position coach, his job is to translate the DC's overall gameplan to his specific group. I think he's more than qualified to do that.

[Cerebus]

I think RA deserves the job.

[Monkeypox]

BIG difference between being a DC and being a position coach. And RA was already a college assistant, at this particular college, which makes him a fine candidate for the position, IMO. And don't forget that he's been coaching in this area, and could possibly bring some local recruiting from some very good football schools that have historically evaded us.

[Guest GrayEagleOne]

IMHO, I would not be opposed to him being a graduate assisant coach so he can learn a "new system" but not a FT paid Offensive or Defensive assistant. Just about everyone was screaming last year about Coach Mendoza (Coach Mendoza played college football and was the DC at the "most" sucessful HS football program in the state and he had about 25-30 coaching experience).

Many of us want us to be like TCU, Boise State or Hawaii who fields a consistant winner every year. Can you afford to take chances on someone who was an assistant college coach one year and a few years as a high school coach? Personally, I am thrilled that RA wants to apply for the job but I also think that there are better qualified coaches "out there" who know all the various systems without going through a learning curve. UNT went through a "learning curve" last year with a HS coach that had a better football coaching "resume" than RA. I have never personally met RA and I am sure he is an outstanding individual and coach but this is not the time to experiment on former players who want to try their hand at coaching when UNT is in a "serious" effort to rebuild a program into national prominance and good enough to jump to a better conference.

Only TD knows what he is looking for on the two vacancies and what we know about Coach Dodge he will not tell us, for obvious reasons.

I will support whoever Coach Dodge gets to fill the two positions if RA is included in the program or not. Heck we should all know how hard the coaching profession is......just look at the turnover every year......

Graduate assistant, my ass! You try supporting a family of five on what a graduate assistant might make.

As far as his learning the system, it'S unlikely that it will vary much from the first time that DeLoach coached defensive backs (when he was a player). Or that he has taught the last six or seven years. I'd rather have someone with passion and heart than a 20 year veteran that just shows up.

[SilverEagle]

Graduate assistant, my ass! You try supporting a family of five on what a graduate assistant might make.

As far as his learning the system, it'S unlikely that it will vary much from the first time that DeLoach coached defensive backs (when he was a player). Or that he has taught the last six or seven years. I'd rather have someone with passion and heart than a 20 year veteran that just shows up.

Speaking of passion and heart.........

[MeanGreen61]

Graduate assistant, my ass! You try supporting a family of five on what a graduate assistant might make.

As far as his learning the system, it'S unlikely that it will vary much from the first time that DeLoach coached defensive backs (when he was a player). Or that he has taught the last six or seven years. I'd rather have someone with passion and heart than a 20 year veteran that just shows up.