Football Stadium

UNTflyer · January 9, 2008

to cut the guy some slack, in printers terms M is commonly used to reference thousands...a gift to us from the Romans.

Yeah, but we're not Romans... or printers.

NCMeanGreen · January 9, 2008

Parking's going to be a nightmare!
Keith

Yes...but would that not be an AWESOME problem to have???? I would gladly walk 5...2...1...MILE to watch a sold-out NT game!!!

Censored by Laurie · January 9, 2008

Yes...but would that not be an AWESOME problem to have???? I would gladly walk 5...2...1...MILE to watch a sold-out NT game!!!

Beer tents every quarter mile would make the walk even better

Cowtown · January 9, 2008

But if we were it would settle our font/identity crisis.

All Times...all the time.

Yeah, but we're not Romans... or printers.

forevereagle · January 9, 2008

But with a stadium of that size, wouldn't you be far from the action? And wouldn't you feel disconnected from the game? And wouldn't it be hard for cameras to get good angles for TV?

If that's the case, then we should keep what we have and avoid the ~54,984,000 empty seats every game.

yyz28 · January 9, 2008

DeepGreen · January 9, 2008

Wait until you see the plans for the new tailgating area! Just about both sides of 35W, almost to the Texas Motor Speedway. Beer Man will need new high octane speakers.

UNT_playmaker · January 9, 2008

Thank you

houstonmeangreen · January 9, 2008

Thank you

The pics of the stadium are in the album with the UFO's and alien pics...a friend of a friend's brother's boss has the pics.

NT80 · January 10, 2008

A source has told me that the firm has been selected to build the stadium, and should be announced soon.
We're one step closer to getting a stadium at least.

Isn't this first selection just for the firm that will design the stadium to specs and give us what options could be available? Then construction bids will be taken for our final wish-list stadium to see what the build-price is, what we need to trim out, and a construction firm retained after that phase? Maybe I have the process mixed up, anyone in construction know the sequence?

BTW, I am still available to be selected for the volunteer "this is what I want" stadium fan design team.

Edited January 10, 2008 by NT80

trud1966 · January 10, 2008

Isn't this first selection just for the firm that will design the stadium to specs and give us what options could be available? Then construction bids will be taken for our final wish-list stadium to see what the build-price is, what we need to trim out, and a construction firm retained after that phase? Maybe I have the process mixed up, anyone in construction know the sequence?
BTW, I am still available to be selected for the volunteer "this is what I want" stadium fan design team.

You dont have it mixed up, youre pretty close. The process is:

1. Select an architect, negotiate a DESIGN contract, NOT a construction contract. (According to the timeline THIS was to be completed this week)

2. Design Development = Architect meets with UNT to gather ideas, info. Architect produces schmatic ideas, concepts, models, identifies and solves problems. (could be 8-10 weeks)

3. Construction Drawings ("Blueprints") are produced from the Architect, Civil Engineer, Structural Engineer, Mechanical, Electrical and Plumbing Engineer. These drawings will be used for both to submit to Denton for permit and for general contractors to bid from. (Constrcution Drawing phase could be 3-5 months for a project this size)

4. Drawings are submitted to Denton for permit, which will probably take several weeks. Possibly at the same time, General Contractors will be bidding on those same drawings. (roughly 4 weeks)

5. General Contractor is selected/awarded the project - - construction contract is finalized - 2 weeks.

6. Construction begins.....

UNTFan23 · January 10, 2008

Beer Man will need new high octane speakers.

<_<

Quoner · January 10, 2008

Yeah, but we're not Romans... or printers.

Speak for yourself.

NorthTexan95 · January 10, 2008

Speak for yourself.

S P E A K . . . F O R . . . Y O U R S E L F . . .

S H A L L . . . W E . . . P L A Y . . . A . . . G A M E ? . . .

NT91 · January 10, 2008

I want pics!!!

NT80 · January 10, 2008

You dont have it mixed up, youre pretty close. The process is:
1. Select an architect, negotiate a DESIGN contract, NOT a construction contract. (According to the timeline THIS was to be completed this week)
2. Design Development = Architect meets with UNT to gather ideas, info. Architect produces schmatic ideas, concepts, models, identifies and solves problems. (could be 8-10 weeks)
3. Construction Drawings ("Blueprints") are produced from the Architect, Civil Engineer, Structural Engineer, Mechanical, Electrical and Plumbing Engineer. These drawings will be used for both to submit to Denton for permit and for general contractors to bid from. (Constrcution Drawing phase could be 3-5 months for a project this size)
4. Drawings are submitted to Denton for permit, which will probably take several weeks. Possibly at the same time, General Contractors will be bidding on those same drawings. (roughly 4 weeks)
5. General Contractor is selected/awarded the project - - construction contract is finalized - 2 weeks.
6. Construction begins.....

Thanks for outlining the process.

How is the overall cost predicted or is it not known for sure until construction bids come in? I mean does UNT go in saying what can we get for $xx million? Or does the architect just ask what UNT wants, then he gives ideas and draws it based on estimates, then both see what the bids are?

A 35-40,000 seat stadium would have to have a lot of variables that could affect cost. % of chairbacks vs. bench seating, size of logo at midfield, those type decisions. Whatever the design, I hope for a grass-sloped endzone with few seats, more on the sidelines!

Edited January 10, 2008 by NT80

ADLER · January 10, 2008

Speak for yourself.

You're all different.

You're all individuals.

Texas Stranger · January 10, 2008

So the next time we play Navy, the pre-game flyover will require a KC-10 for refueling ?

Way to think big, RV !

January 10, 2008

to cut the guy some slack, in printers terms M is commonly used to reference thousands...a gift to us from the Romans.

Oh, because in business terms, M is usually used to reference millions. K is used to reference thousands. But the Roman numeral for 1,000 is M without question.

Green Crazy · January 10, 2008

S P E A K . . . F O R . . . Y O U R S E L F . . .
S H A L L . . . W E . . . P L A Y . . . A . . . G A M E ? . . .

Funny!

I think a big stadium announcement from little ole' NT would help swing a little bit of the momentum back towards our way.

good_ken · January 10, 2008

Parking's going to be a nightmare!
Keith

I can't wait to see the Denai residents protest a stadium that can hold 55M.

Thanks for outlining the process.
How is the overall cost predicted or is it not known for sure until construction bids come in? I mean does UNT go in saying what can we get for $xx million? Or does the architect just ask what UNT wants, then he gives ideas and draws it based on estimates, then both see what the bids are?
A 35-40,000 seat stadium would have to have a lot of variables that could affect cost. % of chairbacks vs. bench seating, size of logo at midfield, those type decisions. Whatever the design, I hope for a grass-sloped endzone with few seats, more on the sidelines!

The athletic department probably showed their model / concept to some design firms and asked for an engineering estimate; which would give them an idea of roughly how it would cost (plus/minus 10%). That way they would know about how much cash to go raise. Once the construction drawings are complete, they will have constructions firms quote building the stadium that is depicted in the construction drawings. That will be the cost.

GreenAlums · January 10, 2008

I can't wait to see the Denai residents protest a stadium that can hold 55M.
The athletic department probably showed their model / concept to some design firms and asked for an engineering estimate; which would give them an idea of roughly how it would cost (plus/minus 10%). That way they would know about how much cash to go raise. Once the construction drawings are complete, they will have constructions firms quote building the stadium that is depicted in the construction drawings. That will be the cost.

This is exactly what was described to me by the Development office. We are in the planning phase of fund raising and will soon move in to the quite phase. We have to know what the price tag is before we know how much money to pickup I was told we have a little over $5M already in hand (in the Development department) for the stadium. I believe there is more money to be added to the total that comes from the state through the budget. We have some money but we also have a ways to go.

DeepGreen · January 10, 2008

We are in the planning phase of fund raising and will soon move in to the quite phase.

Haven't we been in the quite phase for something like the past 6-7 years? :blink: At this rate I'll be 85 years old before the first shovel of dirt is turned for the new stadium. Please, just be sure the stadium has elevators.