Unt / Smu Workin' On Deal

[good_ken]

UNT, SMU negotiate extension of series

12:07 AM CST on Wednesday, January 9, 2008

By BRETT VITO / Denton Record-Chronicle

DENTON – UNT and SMU are discussing a deal to continue their football series, Mean Green athletic director Rick Villarreal said Tuesday.

The schools have met 33 times but did not play from 1992 until the series was revived in 2006. The teams played in each of the last two seasons, with UNT winning in 2006 in Denton and SMU in 2007 in Dallas.

Both teams' schedules are full for next season, but talks are under way to ensure the area rivals play again in the next few years. SMU leads the series 28-4-1.

"We have talked and it is going to be in future years," Villarreal said. "Our schedule is full and so is theirs for next year."

So why is it that our schedule won't be released until after 2-a-days have started? And folks with season tickets won't receive their OOC tickets until the week prior to the game?

[MeanGreen61]

So why is it that our schedule won't be released until after 2-a-days have started? And folks with season tickets won't receive their OOC tickets until the week prior to the game?

Probably waiting on conference games/dates to be finalized. The schedule was released in January last year.

Edited January 10, 2008 by MeanGreen61

[drex]

I favor a bet between the mayors of Denton, Dallas and maybe Fort Worth. If the SMUTs win, they get a statue of people worshiping a tree with a treble cleff sign hanging from it, and if we win, we get a statue of a bunch of plastic people worshiping a BMW. The Fort Worth prize could be a bunch of people worshiping a styalized pile of cow dung. Just a thought.

[Got5onIt]

Here's where people's pride in Texas high school football goes overboard. The myth of Texas high school football and where players who don't go to UT and A&M end up.

He who has eyes and a functioning brain, let him read:

It is a little know fact that a close cousin to the Texas Douche is the Texas High School Football Recruiting Douche - longer name, same consistency of douche-ness. Texas High School Football Recruiting Douche (THSFRD for short) can't understand why a kid who went to high school in Texas would go play for another school in another state.

The obvious things THSFRD overlooks:

(1) Not every kid in Texas lives in a family with deep Texas ties. Texas is a big state. More people move in than move out. Hence, you've got tons of people here with no family in Texas other than their immediate family. This type of kid will have a desire to play his original home state's schools. If a kid made a move in high school, he's got more friends and history in State One than in Texas. This baffles THSFRD to no end.

(2) Many kids want to play for schools that are on television often. With cable, this increases the chances. So, if Kansas' Mark Mangino wedges his way through a kids' front door and explains to him that by going to his school, his family and friends from coast to coast can see him in action in huge stadiums (sometimes Arrowhead), it's unlikely the kid says, "Nah, screw it...I'm going to UTEP. It's in Texas." THSFRD believes being on the TV once in a great while should count just as much. As usual, THSFRD is wrong.

(3) Many kids just want to get away from home. Whether home life is bad, home life is boring, or they just have the yen to be in a different place while they're young, this type of kid won't be swayed by the "stay at home and be close to the family and neighborhood" bit. For many of these kids, home life is hell, and there are bad influences in their neighborhoods. For others, they're just bored with the scene and want a change. Others just want to get away. THSFRD cannot understand Category 3 kids either. You see, THSFRD is probably in his mid-20s to late 30s and still living and home, sponging off mom and dad. In no way can he see cutting apron strings. It's not on his radar.

(4) Many kids also have sports heroes that didn't go to Texas colleges. A speedy kid might have watched Ted Ginn, Jr. at Ohio State and become enthralled with the idea of playing at the Horseshoe. Who knows. His favorite pro player might be Peyton Manning, so he follows the Tennessee Volunteers as well. THSFRD cannot fathom putting anyone outside of a Texas college on a pedestal. Stubbornly clinging to the 557 Bucky Richardson cards in his collection, he refuses to believe anyone could ignore anything Texas college.

(5) Many kids are coached by guys who played football and have connections elsewhere. This really throws a monekywrench into THSFRD's works. Unbeknownst to THSFRD, there are high school coaches other than just the head coach. These "other" coaches, sometimes called "assistants", may have played college football outside of Texas. In fact, many may have friends in the coaching world outside of Texas. Guys they grew up with, or who were teammates in college, or who coached with them in the past. What THSFRD can't compute is that these "assistants" talk to one another, as well as to other coaches outside of Texas. These "assistants" may even be closer to the players than the head coach. It may make THSFRD throw up in his mouth a little to learn this, but...so be it. So, a kid may take advice from someone other than the head coach.

(6) Many kids want to win. This may be the toughest pill of all for THSFRD to swallow; but, swallow it he must. For if Oklahoma State's Mike Gundy invades some Texas kids' living room and says, "Hey! I'm 40! I'm a man! My teams win and go to bowl games every year! It's a crapshoot down there at Baylor and SMU. Why take your chances? Look at these rings? The rings don't lie and neither do I! I'm a man, yes I am, and I can't help but love you so! BOMP-WAAAH! BOMP-WAAAH! I'm a man, yes I am, and I can't help but love you so!"

(7) Many kids parents didn't go to school in Texas. They may have hauled junior and the bunch miles away to exotic locales such a Fayetteville, Arkansas, Norman, Oklahoma or Baton Rouge, Lousiana to watch their alma maters in the big stadiums filled to the brim with actual people who want to watch football and don't camp out half the game in the parking lot. THSFRD may still live with his mom, but he still can't register that a kid may want to go to school where his parents went.

(8) A kid's girlfriend may be at a school outside of Texas. THSFRD has never had a girlfriend, so this potential motivating factor for the normal 18- or 19-year old male would never occur to him.

There are dozens of other scenarios, but you get the picture. June Jones will be fine because he's been in the business for decades at the highest levels. It's doubtful that June Jones walks into to many homes or coaches offices in Texas or anywhere and gets brushed aside simply because he was never a head coach of a high school or college program here. Contrary to all THSFRD holds dear, Texas doesn't exist in a vacuum.

Although, THSFRD should occassionally put down the Dave Campbell's Football magazine, come out of the spankshed, and help his mom vacuum the house. It's the least he could do for leeching off her all these years.

LOL!!! I know we're only 2 weeks into 2008, but this is the post of the year, so far.

[Dodge2007]

A June Jones vs. TD game with last forever with 90 passing attempts and probably even more. That game might set an all-time record for combined passing attempts.

Edited January 10, 2008 by Dodge2007

[MeanGreen61]

I disagree. We're not jealous of the money, they just really feel that it makes them superior. Booster money is the ONLY reason they got JJ. Ticket sales alone couldnt pay for his monthly car allowance.

Here's the reason I want to play them. Simply because of their attitude. - Click below...

http://www.ponyfans.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=30222

ESPN pot shots at Jones & SMU

Gregg Easterbrook, ESPN.com, on June Jones: “Nine years ago, Hawaii took Jones in after he’d been fired repeatedly from NFL jobs, and was having trouble finding work. Yesterday Jones resigned to take more money at SMU, pausing to rip the University of Hawaii as a ‘Pop Warner‘ operation. Jones was liked in Hawaii; he could have stayed, won games and lived as a local hero, which seems a lot more important to satisfaction in life than the size or your paycheck or whether your office is fancier than the next guy’s. Instead he chose to stab Hawaii in the back and sit in a really impressive office at SMU, where the pressure will be relentless and it will surprise no one if Jones ends up fired yet again. And SMU, now you have the kind of coach who not only walks out, but as he walks out, insults those who helped him. The perfect fit for the SMU program!”

[UNTflyer]

Whatever... they can call us a community college all they want, but I don't know of too many community colleges where you can graduate as a physician. And soon we will have a law school as well.

With the growth of UNT and the level of education one can attain at this fine university, the "community college" and "commuter school" references are not only getting tired, they're getting stupid.

Edited January 10, 2008 by UNTflyer

[NT91]

I hope it's a 3 home 3 away!

[UNTflyer]

I hope it's a 3 home 3 away!

I'm almost certain it will be. To negotiate anything less than equal home/away games would be stupid.

[Mean Green 93-98]

ESPN pot shots at Jones & SMU

Gregg Easterbrook, ESPN.com, on June Jones: “Nine years ago, Hawaii took Jones in after he’d been fired repeatedly from NFL jobs, and was having trouble finding work. Yesterday Jones resigned to take more money at SMU, pausing to rip the University of Hawaii as a ‘Pop Warner‘ operation. Jones was liked in Hawaii; he could have stayed, won games and lived as a local hero, which seems a lot more important to satisfaction in life than the size or your paycheck or whether your office is fancier than the next guy’s. Instead he chose to stab Hawaii in the back and sit in a really impressive office at SMU, where the pressure will be relentless and it will surprise no one if Jones ends up fired yet again. And SMU, now you have the kind of coach who not only walks out, but as he walks out, insults those who helped him. The perfect fit for the SMU program!”

Sounds to me like Jones' comments were more directed toward a certain AD who failed to address problems he knew existed. And judging by Hawaii's firing of that AD, it sounds like they agreed with Jones' comments.

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

There is always the option of two home games, two at SMU and two at Safeway....!!

[Texas Stranger]

We could just stick to scheduling Safeway. They have better attendance.