Bcs Games

GoMeanGreen1999 · January 2, 2008

Illinois proved they shouldn't have been in one, and now Hawaii is proving they shouldn't be in one.

FirefightnRick · January 2, 2008

Illinois proved they shouldn't have been in one, and now Hawaii is proving they shouldn't be in one.

Your gonna have to define blowout to us North Texas fans I'm afraid.

Rick

FirefightnRick · January 2, 2008

oh, and I forgot. OU didn't deserve to be in one when USC beat them by 35 that year too.

Rick

oldschoollefty · January 2, 2008

There are a couple of BCS teams that Mizzou could have replaced. :angry:

How'd that flamebroiled hog taste?

FirefightnRick · January 2, 2008

There are a couple of BCS teams that Mizzou could have replaced.
How'd that flamebroiled hog taste?

Exactly, and there's only one way to settle: A 12 to 16 team playoff.

Rick

oldschoollefty · January 2, 2008

Exactly, and there's only one way to settle: A 12 to 16 team playoff.
Rick

No arguement from me on that subject.

Now if I can just live long enough to see it happen. <_<

CMJ · January 2, 2008

Hardly a new thing.

BCS Blowouts(18 points or more)

1998-99 season

Orange Bowl

Florida 31

Syracuse 10

2000-2001 season

Fiesta Bowl

Oregon State 41

Notre Dame 9

2001-2002 season

Fiesta Bowl

Oregon 38

Colorado 16

Orange Bowl

Florida 56

Maryland 23

Rose Bowl

Miami 37

Nebraska 14

2002-2003 season

Rose Bowl

Oklahoma 34

Washington State 14

Orange Bowl

USC 38

Iowa 17

2004-2005 season

Fiesta Bowl

Utah 35

Pittsburgh 7

Orange Bowl

USC 55

Oklahoma 19

2006-2007 season

Sugar Bowl

LSU 41

Notre Dame 14

BCS National Championship

Florida 41

Ohio State 14

stebo · January 2, 2008

A playoff system would certainly be great for the auto-bid conferences; but would kill conferences like the Belt and CUSA and MWC. At most, we would each get one team included. As it is, we can negotiate a second or even third bowl. CUSA has 6. MWC has 3 or 4. Even WAC has 2 with a secondary tie in to a 3rd. MAC has quite a few as well. Take away all of that exposure for all of those non-auto-bid conferences and the big guys win again. The only way to have a playoff where we all don't lose out is through the actual BCS formula. Have the 4 (soon to be 5) BCS bowls fight it out - re-poll/re-vote, have a second round, and then a championship game. We would be excluded unless we (the non-auto-bid teams) had a bubble burster... however, the NO Bowl would still take place and would not be devalued as much because we would be in the same boat as everyone else.

A playoff is great for college football; but the set-up would kill conferences like MWC, CUSA, WAC, and MAC if done right (or wrong)... I just don't see them ever giving us an equal seat in such a small playing field.

The current system works and fans like it... the lowest attended bowl had 25K (NO Bowl) and most had record breaking years. The fledgling Texas Bowl had 60K plus. Fort Worth finally got a good crowd with Cal and Air Force. I just don't see how getting rid of these money making bowl games that are getting a lot of fans out to them would do any good. You can't include them all, or even a third of them - in a true playoff field. This year they would have Georgia moving on to play USC and LSU actually playing Ohio State this week.

You hold off on the "Championship game" and then you add two more bowl like the Cotton to make it a total of 6 bowls with the 7th being the Natl Chmp Game... So you take the 6 winners and then you have the 4 winners play each other in the next round of bowls.. go from 12 teams down to 6 after the first round, have the three winners left standing. That is when you re-poll (which will satisfy the pollsters for getting their say in the Natl Championship Teams)... it wouldn't hurt a bubble burster, they would have won two games by this point and proven that an "easy schedule" didn't get them there nor did an easy first round opponent. The team left over could be considered the 3rd place team, which would be nice - to have a true 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place team. It would keep the current system, give a playoff, and make everyone happy in my opinion.

Edited January 2, 2008 by stebo

DeepGreen · January 2, 2008

Anyone catch the Gator Bowl, Texas Tech vs Virginia? The listed attendance was 60,243. There may have 35,000-40,000 at most-from the TV shots there were no fans sitting in the upper decks nor the end zones. What was once a top tier bowl game has now been reduced to an afterthought.

Eagle1855 · January 2, 2008

I think there will be more BCS blowouts this year than any other. OU is gonna roll on WVU and I don't see Ohio State staying within 10 if LSU plays their game. Kansas is in for a world of hurt facing off against VT's defense.

Not surprisingly, the Big 12 South has been impressive thus far.

The Sun Belt should get another bowl tie-in. After seeing what Georgia did to Hawaii, Im convinced Troy was by far the best team left at home this post season.

Edited January 2, 2008 by Eagle1855

Quoner · January 2, 2008

I think there will be more BCS blowouts this year than any other. OU is gonna roll on WVU and I don't see Ohio State staying within 10 if LSU plays their game. Kansas is in for a world of hurt facing off against VT's defense.
Not surprisingly, the Big 12 South and the SEC has been impressive thus far.
The Sun Belt should get another bowl tie-in. After seeing what Georgia did to Hawaii, Im convinced Troy was by far the best team left at home this post season.

I think the Big 10 speed gap to the SEC - of which I am a frequent booster of, seems less pronounced in recent years. Michigan went up and down the field against Florida and the Vols rode a late pick to glory against Wisconsin in a very close game. If I was Ohio State, I would find two inferior conference mates hanging with teams LSU should have lost to very encouraging.

Mean Green 93-98 · January 2, 2008

Illinois proved they shouldn't have been in one, and now Hawaii is proving they shouldn't be in one.

I don't think Illinois proved any such thing--there are maybe three teams in the country that could even have given this USC team that showed up a game.

Eagle1855 · January 2, 2008

I think the Big 10 speed gap to the SEC - of which I am a frequent booster of, seems less pronounced in recent years. Michigan went up and down the field against Florida and the Vols rode a late pick to glory against Wisconsin in a very close game. If I was Ohio State, I would find two inferior conference mates hanging with teams LSU should have lost to very encouraging.

yeah, I agree. Didn't mean to include SEC when I said impressive. They have been far from it, which is why I edited it out of my post.

I was surprised to see Michigan beat Florida, surprised to see Colorado almost come back on Bama, and I was really surprised to see Arkansas get manhandled.

GoMeanGreen1999 · January 2, 2008

There are a couple of BCS teams that Mizzou could have replaced.
How'd that flamebroiled hog taste?

Most hog fans knew it would be bad....if they where honest with themselves. Mizzou should have been in the Rose Bowl with Illinois in the Cotton, though I really didn't think the Hogs deserved to be in the Cotton. With that said, I wish we could just return back to the "old" conference tie-ins to the bowls if we are not going to have a playoff. I don't see us doing either, but they way it is set up now, we are going to get more and more of these BCS games that are blowouts. I would have loved to have seen GA/USC, and OU/VaTech.....oh well.

GoMeanGreen1999 · January 2, 2008

and I was really surprised to see Arkansas get manhandled.

Not so shocking though when you consider that Mizzou was a very good team this year, 2nd in Big 12 with their two losses to OU, facing what one could argue the SEC's 6th or 7th best team.

Eagle1855 · January 2, 2008

Not so shocking though when you consider that Mizzou was a very good team this year, 2nd in Big 12 with their two losses to OU, facing what one could argue the SEC's 6th or 7th best team.

so what does that say about LSU? I mean, they lost to an average-at-best Arkansas team and a Kentucky team that could barely beat an FSU team that was missing 36 players.

Maybe the 2 best teams in the nation have already played. Give me OU, USC, and Georgia over either of them.

Edited January 2, 2008 by Eagle1855

GoMeanGreen1999 · January 2, 2008

so what does that say about LSU? I mean, they lost to an average-at-best Arkansas team and a Kentucky team that could barely beat an FSU team that was missing 36 players.
Maybe the 2 best teams in the nation have already played. Give me OU, USC, and Georgia over either of them.

Could not agree with you more. If you go simply by the rankings and people vote the way they had all season long before the BCS announcement, we would have Georgia in the title game. This year the team that would probably be better suited for the title game won't get to play in it.

Quoner · January 2, 2008

Could not agree with you more. If you go simply by the rankings and people vote the way they had all season long before the BCS announcement, we would have Georgia in the title game. This year the team that would probably be better suited for the title game won't get to play in it.

Georgia shouldn't have gotten killed by a slightly above average Vols squad then. USC had the worst loss of any of the top 10 teams to Stanford. There was just no one who deserved the title champion this year - at least the way we have viewed them for the past 60 years. I think it is best for everyone to just ignore this season and move on with our lives.

Mean Green 93-98 · January 2, 2008

There was just no one who deserved the title champion this year - at least the way we have viewed them for the past 60 years. I think it is best for everyone to just ignore this season and move on with our lives.

I have not heard anyone say it better!

GoMeanGreen1999 · January 2, 2008

Georgia shouldn't have gotten killed by a slightly above average Vols squad then. USC had the worst loss of any of the top 10 teams to Stanford. There was just no one who deserved the title champion this year - at least the way we have viewed them for the past 60 years. I think it is best for everyone to just ignore this season and move on with our lives.

Rest assurred, I will lose NO sleep over it

KingDL1 · January 2, 2008

A true playoff system as good as it sounds will never happen simply because of logistics and money period ever!

Most of the time people talk about a 8 regular season games, then the playoffs. Besides the money fans bring in and there inability to plan for for games that are determined by wining. Also what if your team does not make the playoffs only 8 games that would suck, a losers bracket maybe? If you team gets eliminated in the first round 9 games for a season that would suck also.

Maybe I understand it wrong, but between the money home games bring in and the ability for fans to plan ahead for games other then a one Bowl game a year I don't ever see it happening.

Steve's idea is the closest I have heard but I still don't think it could happen.

greenjoe · January 2, 2008

And let's say your team is in the playoff tournament. And this team wins the first round. Do you ask off next week as well ? And then what do you do the third week ? Did you team win again and if so, do you have the money to keep following them all over the country ?

I think the playoff system is a good idea on paper. However, under the current system, half the teams get to be the XYZ Bowl Champions. Half the teams win their last game. And all 36 or 40 or whatever it is get a bowl game trip to celebrate a winning season.

As for me, I'd be pleased to go back to New Orleans next December. And the next.

GO MEAN GREEN

Eagle1855 · January 2, 2008

And let's say your team is in the playoff tournament. And this team wins the first round. Do you ask off next week as well ? And then what do you do the third week ? Did you team win again and if so, do you have the money to keep following them all over the country ?

This is a good point. Which is why I think you would have to play the first round or two on school's home fields. I don't think it's practical to have a game at a diff bowl site every week.

GreenAlums · January 2, 2008

This is a good point. Which is why I think you would have to play the first round or two on school's home fields. I don't think it's practical to have a game at a diff bowl site every week.

Eagle1855, you just gotta change your personal photo! :lol: Just teasing but she/it really does give me the heebie jeebies!! If that is your point....mission accomplished! :lol:

KingDL1 · January 2, 2008

This is a good point. Which is why I think you would have to play the first round or two on school's home fields. I don't think it's practical to have a game at a diff bowl site every week.

That really doesn't change anything, you still have to plan. Who is the away team who gets home field advantage how far do you have to travel. Is Hawaii in the picture?