Racism In Football

[JesseMartin]

I don't see why using examples from my life invalidates the arguments at all. If it's going on in my family, it's probably going on in lots of others. I don't remember anyone in my family ever showing respect to a person of color unless they were scoring a touchdown, basket, or home run.

I don't need any validation from a jerk like you, Insurance. I did what needed to be done to distance myself from very negative people. The point of this thread was to, again, use examples from my experiences to discuss the racial issues in life, especially as they relate to perceptions of athletes and people in general. Quite a few others have done a good job at realizing that and providing coherent points, many also from their lives.

You want to talk about therapy? How about dealing with the fact that your insecurities, aggression, or whatever it may be render(s) you incapable of discussing an issue instead of being obnoxious?

Aside: I should have posted in the Non-UNT Sports section, sorry, guess we should stop reading/posting here until it is moved.

Edited January 2, 2008 by JesseMartin

[UNTflyer]

And for our next UNT football topic... ABORTION!

[JesseMartin]

Haven't we talked about Mendoza enough already?

[Bryan316]

I think what was originally racism that has shifted to prejudice is a generational mindset. Up through the 40s and 50s, everything was segregated and there was an actual belief that whites were a superior race and didn't want to be "tainted" by blacks, giving rise to the "separate but equal" facilities. Those born in the 50s grew up and went to schools that were being integrated. They were, more or less, "forced" to face blacks instead of simply ignoring or looking around them. Some whites maintained the earlier mindset of white supremacy while others found out that black kids had the same goals and interests that they had. For those born in the 80s and since, most have had "mixed" classrooms and find that it's just how life is. I think many of the youth today see that racial prejudice shouldn't be an issue, and hopefully it'll burn out.

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

I think what was originally racism that has shifted to prejudice is a generational mindset. Up through the 40s and 50s, everything was segregated and there was an actual belief that whites were a superior race and didn't want to be "tainted" by blacks, giving rise to the "separate but equal" facilities. Those born in the 50s grew up and went to schools that were being integrated. They were, more or less, "forced" to face blacks instead of simply ignoring or looking around them. Some whites maintained the earlier mindset of white supremacy while others found out that black kids had the same goals and interests that they had. For those born in the 80s and since, most have had "mixed" classrooms and find that it's just how life is. I think many of the youth today see that racial prejudice shouldn't be an issue, and hopefully it'll burn out.

---As I said, todays youth really don't understand what was happening. I was one of those being "forced" as you called it. Not everyone felt as you seem to think they did. I was a bit different I suppose because the minorities where I lived were fairly small (less than 10% each). Many in my class understood things weren't as they should be because as we were graduating, the blacks in the class could not even attend our local college (Baptist). No court action forced our HS to integrate but instead the year after Brown vs. Topeka occured the local board took action... I think many of them had for years wanted to shut down the black school but could not due to pressure of "some" of the community.

---The problem then as it is now some that extremes existed on both sides and a few felt we owed them (as some do now)...as did a few on one side felt threatened by the other groups. It always seem funny to me that the most uneducated whites were/are the most predjudiced... guess they fear(ed) they would lose jobs and also realized that they would be heading for the bottom ranks of society. The somewhat educated middle and wealthy class rarely felt that way. My mom particularly set my attitudes and her family had raised cotton until the 1930's and had often hired minorities to help pick cotton.. She very much treated them as poeple who loved their kids and was just trying to make a decent living.

---"No doubt parts of the Deep South was a bit different where whites were actually in the minority".. They feared losing control of everything, local government, etc. to those who really were not educated enough to take charge of much.

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