Hands Down! Worst Season

UNT_playmaker · November 2, 2007

Don't think this season can get any worst......

Coaches, Players, and now the race card of all things are in question..

Let's hope this goes away quickly before the major news networks take hold of this and things really get out of hand.

The sooner this goes away the better, we can finish the season out and work on recruiting which I think took alot of major blows because of our current record and now this mess...Which I think might get worst as more players are coming out

Let's hope the truth comes and out and we move on...

shaft · November 2, 2007

Sure can, the players can get got stealing VCRs from hotels like Simon used to let'em do. Or RV could bring in Dog the bounty hunter to conduct an investigation.

They sky isn't falling. Its the worst Defense is school history, but the offense has some zip.

Edited November 2, 2007 by shaft

VideoEagle · November 2, 2007

Don't think this season can get any worst......

Never challenge “worse.”

UNTLifer · November 2, 2007

Don't think this season can get any worst......
Coaches, Players, and now the race card of all things are in question..
Let's hope this goes away quickly before the major news networks take hold of this and things really get out of hand.
The sooner this goes away the better, we can finish the season out and work on recruiting which I think took alot of major blows because of our current record and now this mess...Which I think might get worst as more players are coming out
Let's hope the truth comes and out and we move on...

Yep, and now a hurricane off the east coast will probably wash out the NT/Navy game. Son of a B!*&ch!

OldTimer · November 2, 2007

Don't think this season can get any worst......
Coaches, Players, and now the race card of all things are in question..
Let's hope this goes away quickly before the major news networks take hold of this and things really get out of hand.
The sooner this goes away the better, we can finish the season out and work on recruiting which I think took alot of major blows because of our current record and now this mess...Which I think might get worst as more players are coming out
Let's hope the truth comes and out and we move on...

At least for NT, it was a home game....NT didn't take buses in which "some" team members "borrowed" blankets from the motel they stayed in and the police had to stop the buses and retrieve the articles.

Green to the Bone · November 2, 2007

Yep, and now a hurricane off the east coast will probably wash out the NT/Navy game. Son of a B!*&ch!

Not unless Navy is coming to Denton by ship.

PlummMeanGreen · November 2, 2007

I am going to politely agree to disagree that this will be our worst season yet and here is why:

Back in the mid-to-late 1960's North Texas was very fortunate to have had some very good athletes (most black by the way and some who I consider friends); anyway, the Mean Joe Greene Era at North Texas featured such stars as Cedric Hardman (former SF 49'er All Pro & UNT Hall of Famer; also, the late great Ron Shanklin who was catching Terry Bradshaw's passes before Bradshaw realized he was no longer at La Tech :rolleyes: ; also, Steve Ramsey, a very formidable NCAA D1 QB who set a few NCAA records while in Denton and went on to play for the Denver Broncos; also, Chuck "The Hatchett" Beatty, who oldtimers :blink: tell me was quite a college football player in Mean Green Country.

I have left some names out of the above paragraph, but out of that North Texas Mean Green football era came several NFL #1 draft choices and a team that was playing of such quality at one point that it almost beat a national championship contending Frank Broyles-coached Arkansas Razorback team in 1968. Shanklin told me over some Mexican food at Fort Worth's Dos Gringos that not only did UNT think it (basically) got robbed of a winning touchdown, but years later Ron (Shanklin) told me that even a Razorback from that 1968 team told him the Mean Green got robbed that day.

Well, long story short....Those Rod Rust team's had all but been to the pinnacle of college football royalty with all the future NFL'ers during that era, but in 1972, the North Texas coach who led those high quality UNT football team (perhaps our best teams in our history); anyway, Coach Rod Rust had gone to the penthouse to the outhouse as he won "1" game his last year as Mean Green football coach, circa 1972. So I am not ever going to say that this has been our worst ever, but I would bet North Texas fans from the Mean Joe Greene era had thought the sky had fallen down upon them with Rod Rusts last season.

Now to present day at UNT..............Todd Dodge is hardly following a Mean Green football program that had several NFL #1 draft choices and with all those teams playing in some pretty tall cotton back in the day, but rather Todd Dodge was our choice to (basically IMO) bottom-out DD's football program; a football program with many discipline problems on & off the field that hardly anyone could say DD's last 2 seasons would give any new UNT coach any semblance of momentum--even at the Sun Belt Conference's present standards.

I would easily go out on a limb and bet that Coach Dodge himself may have thought after he took this job that in his inaugural season that it could be highly probable that this season may very well go just as it has to this point. I don't think he expected all the discipline problems, though, and I'm not just referring to the events of this week, either.

I feel more than comfortable with what Todd Dodge is doing at our school & from all accounts I've heard since his hiring (from both black & white voices for what its worth) he is a fair and honest man. I personally hope the good officials of the Texas Chapter of the NAACP will come to Denton, Texas, be President "B's" honored guest for the Navy game in her presential suite and they all get to meet some of the very UNT black athletes that helped North Texas become the first traditional caucasian university in the Lone Star State to (and I quote Spike Lee)................"do the right thing" and integrate our alma mater back in the mid-1950's. I know we could go over-board with all this, but might not be too bad an idea to tell their fine committee that UNT may have very well been the last university to bestow an honorary doctorate to the late Coretta Scott King less than a year before she passed as I recall. That was a proud moment for all races that make up our most diversified UNT community.

To My Fellow Caucasians: We cannot begin to know what all our black friends (both male & female) of any age level have had to put up with or endure in this country of ours. Yet I feel very few of us (if any) will have ever been any of their stumblingblocks as far as racism is concerned, though, and I really do feel that way.

Most anyone I have ever known as a friend who attended North Texas (no matter what era, either), I can honest-to-goodness say that I don't know of a single one of that group that I got to know to some extent that I've ever heard any kind of hateful, racial remark whatsoever.

I think part of all our pride of being college educated is that racism becomes something that only someone quite uninformed and, quite frankly, blatantly ignorant would consider having as one of their personal traits.

Edited November 3, 2007 by PlummMeanGreen

UNT_playmaker · November 3, 2007

I am going to politely agree to disagree that this will be our worst season yet and here is why:
Back in the mid-to-late 1960's North Texas was very fortunate to have had some very good athletes (most black by the way and some who I consider friends); anyway, the Mean Joe Greene Era at North Texas featured such stars as Cedric Hardman (former SF 49'er All Pro & UNT Hall of Famer; also, the late great Ron Shanklin who was catching Terry Bradshaw's passes before Bradshaw realized he was no longer at La Tech ; also, Steve Ramsey, a very formidable NCAA D1 QB who set a few NCAA records while in Denton and went on to play for the Denver Broncos; also, Chuck "The Hatchett" Beatty, who oldtimers tell me was quite a college football player in Mean Green Country.
I have left some names out of the above paragraph, but out of that North Texas Mean Green football era came several NFL #1 draft choices and a team that was playing of such quality at one point that it almost beat a national championship contending Frank Broyles-coached Arkansas Razorback team in 1968. Shanklin told me over some Mexican food at Fort Worth's Dos Gringos that not only did UNT think it (basically) got robbed of a winning touchdown, but years later Ron (Shanklin) told me that even a Razorback from that 1968 team told him the Mean Green got robbed that day.
Well, long story short....Those Rod Rust team's had all but been to the pinnacle of college football royalty with all the future NFL'ers during that era, but in 1972, the North Texas coach who led those high quality UNT football team (perhaps our best teams in our history); anyway, Coach Rod Rust had gone to the penthouse to the outhouse as he won "1" game his last year as Mean Green football coach, circa 1972. So I am not ever going to say that this has been our worst ever, but I would bet North Texas fans from the Mean Joe Greene era had thought the sky had fallen down upon them with Rod Rusts last season.
Now to present day at UNT..............Todd Dodge is hardly following a Mean Green football program that had several NFL #1 draft choices and with all those teams playing in some pretty tall cotton back in the day, but rather Todd Dodge was our choice to (basically IMO) bottom-out DD's football program; a football program with many discipline problems on & off the field that hardly anyone could say DD's last 2 seasons would give any new UNT coach any semblance of momentum--even at the Sun Belt Conference's present standards.
I would easily go out on a limb and bet that Coach Dodge himself may have thought after he took this job that in his inaugural season that it could be highly probable that this season may very well go just as it has to this point. I don't think he expected all the discipline problems, though, and I'm not just referring to the events of this week, either.
I feel more than comfortable with what Todd Dodge is doing at our school & from all accounts I've heard since his hiring (from both black & white voices for what its worth) he is a fair and honest man. I personally hope the good officials of the Texas Chapter of the NAACP will come to Denton, Texas, be President "B's" honored guest for the Navy game in her presential suite and they all get to meet some of the very UNT black athletes that helped North Texas become the first traditional caucasian university in the Lone Star State to (and I quote Spike Lee)................"do the right thing" and integrate our alma mater back in the mid-1950's. I know we could go over-board with all this, but might not be too bad an idea to tell their fine committee that UNT may have very well been the last university to bestow an honorary doctorate to the late Coretta Scott King less than a year before she passed as I recall. That was a proud moment for all races that make up our most diversified UNT community.
To My Fellow Caucasians: We cannot begin to know what all our black friends (both male & female) of any age level have had to put up with or endure in this country of ours. Yet I feel very few of us (if any) will have ever been any of their stumblingblocks as far as racism is concerned, though, and I really do feel that way.
Most anyone I have ever known as a friend who attended North Texas (no matter what era, either), I can honest-to-goodness say that I don't know of a single one of that group that I got to know to some extent that I've ever heard any kind of hateful, racial remark whatsoever.
I think part of all our pride of being college educated is that racism becomes something that only someone quite uninformed and, quite frankly, blatantly ignorant would consider having as one of their personal traits.

Plumm, you make good points in your post....but unfortunately there is still alot of racism that is conducted today, mostly by educated college students. I hear more racial slurs by my fraternity than ever did by uneducated people I see on a day to day basis.... It's sad.

UNT_playmaker · November 3, 2007

Yep, and now a hurricane off the east coast will probably wash out the NT/Navy game. Son of a B!*&ch!

Not unless Navy is coming to Denton by ship.

Man I wish that hurricane comes this way. Alot of people don't know that it is very rare to have a storm much less a hurricane in the atlantic now, hurricane season ended on Nov.1 but we had a hurricane in december back in 2005.

Noel is a nice name for a hurricane since it's close to christmas.....

NT80 · November 3, 2007

Man I wish that hurricane comes this way. Alot of people don't know that it is very rare to have a storm much less a hurricane in the atlantic now, hurricane season ended on Nov.1 but we had a hurricane in december back in 2005.
Noel is a nice name for a hurricane since it's close to christmas.....

Actually hurricane season goes until the end of November...

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/G1.html

Edited November 3, 2007 by NT80

UNT_playmaker · November 3, 2007

Actually hurricane season goes until the end of November...
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/G1.html

Oh snap your right....lol Good call....

PlummMeanGreen · November 3, 2007

Plumm, you make good points in your post....but unfortunately there is still alot of racism that is conducted today, mostly by educated college students. I hear more racial slurs by my fraternity than ever did by uneducated people I see on a day to day basis.... It's sad.

2 Things:

(1) Racism is against the law

(2) Racism will get your fraternity kicked off the UNT campus for an indefinite amount of time (if not permanently).

Your fraternity best heed the advice of one other fraternity at UNT that was kicked off campus a few years ago because of the racist outburst of just one of its members; in fact, that person may not have been a member at all but was at a function sponsored by that particular UNT fraternity. It is a serious matter and it only takes one person to screw up things for an entire group.

Seriously, you might want to ask for a meeting with your frat's leaders to go over our main campus by-laws concerning the consequences of racism if what you are saying is the absolute truth.

Edited November 3, 2007 by PlummMeanGreen

UNTLifer · November 3, 2007

Man I wish that hurricane comes this way. Alot of people don't know that it is very rare to have a storm much less a hurricane in the atlantic now, hurricane season ended on Nov.1 but we had a hurricane in december back in 2005.
Noel is a nice name for a hurricane since it's close to christmas.....

Yep, lots of hurricanes hit the Denton area.

football fan · November 4, 2007

Don't think this season can get any worst......
Coaches, Players, and now the race card of all things are in question..
Let's hope this goes away quickly before the major news networks take hold of this and things really get out of hand.
The sooner this goes away the better, we can finish the season out and work on recruiting which I think took alot of major blows because of our current record and now this mess...Which I think might get worst as more players are coming out
Let's hope the truth comes and out and we move on...

As ugly as this situation seems, it is not that bad. Rather, we have some bad apples that are being removed from the barrel so as not to ruin any more. This Team is still a Team and the good apples are committed to improvement. The color of the apple is not important to the majority. My opinion, the bad apples crying racism are the true racist. Isnt that usually the case?! Bottom line is the majority are working hard to improve. All are trying to row in the same direction. All rowing in their own/or another direction must be removed from the Team. This is plain and simple. OK, lets get to rowing.......in the same and proper direction. Thank you!

shaft · November 5, 2007

ssshhhh. We try not to bring up the frat racism thing around here.

After DD had some of these boys frat bounced, they never had very nice things to say about him on this message board.

Let's face it, Dodge is probably ready for prime time, but his assistants aren't.

They're not getting it done on the feild and they're not getting it done with the players off the feild.

foutsrouts · November 5, 2007

Yeah, my opinion is that anyone who is a racist is an ignorant punk. And when I say that, I'm talking about white, black, brown, yellow, red, purple, pink, and every other possible color, race, religion, or creed imaginable. That includes football players and coaches as well as frat boys. This is getting very old guys and gals. You've got decent people and jerks in all of the above, and I am truly starting to believe that the guys who started this are simply jerks. Let's just put this obvious BS behind us and quit feeding this ridiculous frenzy. Have a good evening and let's beat Navy!!!