Nt Daily- Dodge Addresses Athletes Accusations

rcade · November 2, 2007

It tells me all I need to about a person's character when they run to a racist organization like the NAACP. It shows that they themselves are racist and it shows there character.

The characterization of the NAACP as a racist organization is idiotic and offensive. It's one of the oldest and most influential civil rights organizations in the United States and has 400,000 members. The group offers scholarships, supports education and health care, and fights discrimination -- all worthy causes.

When you consider the fact that blacks were denied education in our not-distant past -- North Texas didn't admit its first black student until 1954 -- the need for African-Americans to work together to protect their civil rights should be beyond question.

Edited November 2, 2007 by rcade

untbowler · November 2, 2007

99% of the athletes at North Texas have no idea what the University has to offer outside of academics and where they need to be for practice and meetings. Maybe DG wouldn't have gone to the NAACP if he had known there was an office in the University system he could have gone to with his complaint. Once again, posters are passing judgement on players on this board without all the facts or knowing the entire story. I don't know about ya'll but all my life I have been told you can't believe everything you read in the newspaper, hear on the radio or see on TV.

I blame this on the students for not looking at these oppotunities available to them. You can lead a horse to water but not make them drink. If the kids would take 2 seconds to read stuff posted everywhere they would know that there are a ton of outreach programs available for them at all levels.

Most students are clueless to the world around except to find out where their next beer or joint will come from, pretty sad fact. Do not blame the administration b/c the students are to lazy to seek out these opportunities available.

meangreendork · November 2, 2007

The characterization of the NAACP as a racist organization is idiotic and offensive. It's one of the oldest and most influential civil rights organizations in the United States and has 400,000 members. The group offers scholarships, supports education and health care, and fights discrimination -- all worthy causes.
When you consider the fact that blacks were denied education in our not-distant past -- North Texas didn't admit its first black student until 1954 -- the need for African-Americans to work together to protect their civil rights should be beyond question.

Thank you for this. I am where I am now because of what the NAACP has done. None of it has been directly in my favor, but it's what they did for my parents. Sadly, racism still exists and that's why, as often as I might disagree with the occasional NAACP or ACLU case, I like their presence.

As for those of you placing so much blame on the media for what's wrong with America's youth. I'll tell you what's wrong with America's youth...America's parents. It's up to them to set the pattern for their kids, monitor what they do, watch, eat, and listen to. No amount of media restrictions, government intervention or anything from anywhere else is as effective as good parenting.

Edited November 2, 2007 by meangreendork

GreenMachine · November 2, 2007

Well since we all seem to love to make generalizations, how about the reality that college football is dominated by african-american athletes, yet we're the only university "lucky" enough to have 3 players on the same team accuse the coaching staff of racism? I can't remember any program within the last 5 years having such serious accusations thrown at it.

I seriously doubt that many people beyond the DFW area has even heard about any of the allegations. I am fairly sure that this same situation has happened on numerous campus' nationwide through out the years.

rcade · November 2, 2007

Thank you for this. I am where I am now because of what the NAACP has done. None of it has been directly in my favor, but it's what they did for my parents. Sadly, racism still exists and that's why, as often as I might disagree with the occasional NAACP or ACLU case, I like their presence.

When I was attending UNT in the late '80s, they had a display in the administration building with pictures of those first black students going to school. It was shocking to see, because they were only a little younger than my grandparents would've been at the time.

One of the strongest reasons people attend college is because their parents went to school and valued the experience. The question I had then, seeing those pictures: If my grandparents had been denied a college education, would my parents have pursued one? And if they hadn't, would I?

rcade · November 2, 2007

I seriously doubt that many people beyond the DFW area has even heard about any of the allegations. I am fairly sure that this same situation has happened on numerous campus' nationwide through out the years.

The story hasn't broken out of DFW yet. I figure it's only a matter of time before AP or ESPN takes it national, unfortunately.

Got5onIt · November 2, 2007

I seriously doubt that many people beyond the DFW area has even heard about any of the allegations. I am fairly sure that this same situation has happened on numerous campus' nationwide through out the years.

I hope you're right. In the day and age of the media knowing when Britney Spears has a hershey highway on her panties, I fear we may be in for some harsh national publicity.

Edited November 2, 2007 by Got5onIt

SilverEagle · November 2, 2007

The allegations came as a shock to UNT junior defensive lineman Joseph Miller, who is black, and several area coaches and athletic directors who have worked with Dodge over the years. Dodge spent the 2000-06 seasons at Southlake Carroll and won four state titles in his last five years at the school.
"I heard about it this morning and was shocked," Miller said. "I have not been a victim of anything like that. Hopefully this will pass over."
OK Lifer, I've posted the comments from Joseph Miller. What was missed or purposely ignored? Joseph Miller has not and did not allege anything! He also didn't offer up anything regarding in this story. Maybe you missed the portion of my post where I stated that not all black or anglo individuals can speak for everyone else. You might also find another post where I referenced that no other African-American players (past or present) had alleged discrimination over the 32 years (to my knowledge) that I have followed the program. If I'm not mistaken, Miller is from Pflugerville which does not create an image of an inner-city kid. I also didn't mention (or chose to ignore) the quotes from other black teammates who felt that Green was a good guy and teammate.
Anyway, please enlighten me, as I can always count on your consistent biased opinions regarding race relations and the african american athlete.

Well, go back a little further than 32 years to the 1970 (or 71) season, and there was some unrest on the North Texas team that ran across racial lines. There was a call by some of the black athletes on that football team for a general walk-out. The issue seemed to be very similar to what is being alleged this week. They didn't like some of the attitudes/policies/rules of the (then) head coach Rod Rust. They felt that there was favoritism by the coaching staff, and they felt misunderstood and/or put-upon because of their race.

I have no idea if the NAACP was called in on the matter, but the situation was reported in the NT daily.

I don't know how it all ended up. But it could be that once it was pointed out to the disgruntled athetes that Rod Rust irritated everyone (black or white), they might have said "Oh, well, nevermind then".