Ap/coach's Poll Released

[UNTflyer]

USC is ranked 7th in the coach's poll. Tell me there isn't a West Coast bias among the coaches!

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

Edited October 7, 2007 by UNTflyer

[CMJ]

Your bias against USC would be your bias. There are many things I consider suspect in the polls this week. And for you my Florida friend, I would submit being ranked so far ahead of Auburn...with the same record...after losing to them....is pretty suspect. The biggest issue I would say though is Oklahoma. They were ranked #4 TWO WEEKS AGO, lost to unranked Colorado, and now sit at 5 and 6. So basically the loss didn't hurt them at all. At least with USC, it'd take more than a week to climb up from 7(or 10) to number 3 or 4.

ASU and Cincinnati are pretty underanked this week.

Edited October 7, 2007 by CMJ

[meangreendork]

USF...these guys are incredible this season. They're really cleaning up all over the place and I have to say I'm incredibly jealous of them, but I also think we're finally sitting down with the right head coach to get us to move in that direction. USF fans, especially the die-hard ones, should be very, very proud of their team.

[GoMeanGreen1999]

USC is ranked 7th in the coach's poll. Tell me there isn't a West Coast bias among the coaches!

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

The polls are a joke. Let's see - Michigan at #5 loses to App State, who has won back to back D1AA titles and they fall COMPLETELY out of the top 25. USC ranked #2 loses to a horrible Stanford team who was an underdog by 41 points, playing without their starting QB at home, and they fall 4 spots?

And Florida? They are 4 - 2, with Auburn who is 4 - 2, and they lose to Auburn and they are ranked 10 spots higher?

Edited October 8, 2007 by GoMeanGreen1999

[CMJ]

The polls are a joke. Let's see - Michigan at #5 loses to App State, who has won back to back D1AA titles and they fall COMPLETELY out of the top 25. USC ranked #2 loses to a horrible Stanford team who was an underdog by 41 points, playing without their starting QB at home, and they fall 4 spots?

And Florida? They are 4 - 2, with Auburn who is 4 - 2, and they lose to Auburn and they are ranked 10 spots higher?

Michigan losing to a team in a different division(even if they were National Champs) is a worse loss than USC losing to a Pac 10 rival. Not to mention any school that loses in the 1st week of the season should fall out of the Top 25 IMHO - because you're basically voting on the body of work. Well if your only game is a loss you can't really make the argument that you're in the top 25.

USC also fell more than 4 spots btw. In the AP they fell 8(2 to 10) and the Coaches poll they fell 6(1 to 7).

I already made the Auburn argument.

[GoMeanGreen1999]

Michigan losing to a team in a different division(even if they were National Champs) is a worse loss than USC losing to a Pac 10 rival. Not to mention any school that loses in the 1st week of the season should fall out of the Top 25 IMHO - because you're basically voting on the body of work. Well if your only game is a loss you can't really make the argument that you're in the top 25.

USC also fell more than 4 spots btw. In the AP they fell 8(2 to 10) and the Coaches poll they fell 6(1 to 7).

I already made the Auburn argument.

We will just have to disagree on this one - If you are a 41 point favorite, at home, playing a team that has yet to win, ranked #1 in one poll, you SHOULD fall out of the Top 10.

[GoMeanGreen1999]

I already made the Auburn argument.

I guess you never make arguments that other people have already made?

[CMJ]

We will just have to disagree on this one - If you are a 41 point favorite, at home, playing a team that has yet to win, ranked #1 in one poll, you SHOULD fall out of the Top 10.

Point of fact...Stanford had won a game previously(San Jose State). They entered the game at 1-3. And conference games are always shaky propositions. I'm not saying USC shouldn't have fallen more than 6 to 8 spots, but pollsters have always shown a reluctance to drop schools significant amounts(or move them up significantly) once the season is more than a month or so old. Before then you're more likely to have the radical jumps in either direction, because things are more fluid - no one knows how good anyone truly is.

And yes, people do make the same arguments(re: to Auburn), but seeing as how the you were responding to the original post and didn't mention any other flaws in the poll that I saw I wasn't sure if you'd read my post to begin with.

[GoMeanGreen1999]

Point of fact...Stanford had won a game previously(San Jose State). They entered the game at 1-3. And conference games are always shaky propositions. I'm not saying USC shouldn't have fallen more than 6 to 8 spots, but pollsters have always shown a reluctance to drop schools significant amounts(or move them up significantly) once the season is more than a month or so old. Before then you're more likely to have the radical jumps in either direction, because things are more fluid - no one knows how good anyone truly is.

And yes, people do make the same arguments(re: to Auburn), but seeing as how the you were responding to the original post and didn't mention any other flaws in the poll that I saw I wasn't sure if you'd read my post to begin with.

Oh, sorry about that, I meant to reference you in the Auburn post...I had read your post. I can see your point. It just drives me crazy when South Florida (albeit they are good) goes from 18 to 6 by beating a top 5 team, then OU drops 4-6 spots (I can't remember how many to be sure) when they lose to unranked Colorado, then jumps up 5 spots to where they are now just by beating the #19 team by 7 points. They basically are at now where they were, and their loss is to an unranked team. Back to the South Florida thing - so they jump up 12 spots by beating WV, yet they get leaped this week by teams and they still won. If they were good enough to jump all the way up to where they are now, from where they were, why not move them up when they win? Drives me crazy.