Taking It To A New Level!

[runt96]

With TCU's capacity they have a bowl. Granted, we'll probably never get one. But, in the event a few other bowls do not make it, the Peterbilt Bowl could be a possibility. Neutral sites for HS football games is another use. A 40k stadium in Denton at a state university could draw better than either of the other private universities.

[ADLER]

What Division 1 school has a stadium seating capacity that doesn't even exceed it's enrollment?

Do we really want to be the only school that fits that desciption?

Fact is, most Division 1 schools have stadium seating capacity around twice their enrollment figure.

We shouldn't want to start at 70 to 80 thousand seats, but if the plan is to be truly successful, those figures should realistically be the end goal.

The issues that have caused low attendance are being addressed. I hope we build the stadium accordingly, and build it correctly for the future.

[NT91]

How about Peterbilt Stadium!

[ADLER]

How about Peterbilt Stadium!

There should be a new student referendum which would guarantee the revenue necessary for bonds. It's not impossible, the stadium will cost roughly twice what the Student Recreational Facility did.

In October 2000, the same month Dr. Pohl took up his duties as UNT's 13th president, the student body approved a referendum to institute a $75 per semester fee to finance a new recreation center.

There would also need to be a concerted alumni fund raising drive combined with some creative athletics packaging. To raise revenue, SMU sold season ticket packages for the first 3 seasons before Ford Stadium was built.

And then, we can continue to look for that corporate sponsor or big donor. I think it will come easier than anyone believes possible. UCF which has virtually no football heritage has donors tripping all over themselves trying to get naming rights to different parts of the stadium. All UCF needed was to show that they are truly serious about Division 1 athletics. Their new stadium makes that statement, and they open that stadium by hosting the Texas Longhorns.

[PlummMeanGreen]

What Division 1 school has a stadium seating capacity that doesn't even exceed it's enrollment?

Do we really want to be the only school that fits that desciption?

Fact is, most Division 1 schools have stadium seating capacity around twice their enrollment figure.

We shouldn't want to start at 70 to 80 thousand seats, but if the plan is to be truly successful, those figures should realistically be the end goal.

The issues that have caused low attendance are being addressed. I hope we build the stadium accordingly, and build it correctly for the future.

Edited August 9, 2007 by PlummMeanGreen

[mean green d]

I'm ok with the 32,000 planned seats and expansion later. If we see we're doing well attendance wise, we can expand later. Lets just get into a nice new building. Fouts has served its purpose.

[Guest GrayEagleOne]

Guys, you need to do a little figuring before just picking a figure.

You can only get about 200 seats per row after allowing for several aisles. Now if you could get 70 rows per side (which wouldn't be possible for press box, club and luxury boxes) that would give you only 28,000 seat capacity. If you could go up another ten rows, that would increase the capacity to 32,000. Add to that another 4-5,000 seats in the arc of the horseshoe and you could conceivably have about a 34,000 seat stadium. But, you would have to elevate each row by two feet and also extend (from the playing field) two feet for each row. That would make the height 150 feet and I'm not sure that you could squeeze that in and enter at ground level.

As I see it, the only way to have a 40,000 seat stadium would be to double-deck at least one side. I'm not sure how much that would add to the cost but it wouldn't be cheap. Unless you can find a big donor, it would likely add another two years to the opening date.

I believe that is why Phase 1 only calls for a seating capacity in the low 30s. The second phase includes the double-decking which increases the capacity to 50,000.

Since the cost seems to be rising exponentially, I hope that we can get the project going soon or face an additional $10-20M to raise above the current estimate.

[NTPhiKap99]

The cost and feasibility of building the upper deck to initially is just way too high and being able to fit 40k plus in just the lower bowl causes way too many design issues. I don’t like the idea of building something we hope is obsolete upon completion but a new 32k seat stadium will help put us on the map. If we can have a new stadium by 2009 or 2010 and long as fund raising continues throughout construction and attendance increases like we think it will the increased revenue from tickets and donations alone will allow us to expand by 2015.

[UNT_playmaker]

We need to start at least 37,500 seats and shoot for 40,000, it is very important for our program's future.

Anything less than 40,000 is a disappointment. Fouts is already over 30,000 seats and that hasnt taken us anywhere.

[greenminer]

We need to start at least 37,500 seats and shoot for 40,000, it is very important for our program's future.

Anything less than 40,000 is a disappointment. Fouts is already over 30,000 seats and that hasnt taken us anywhere.

Losing has gotten us nowhere. Lack of alumni connection has gotten us nowhere. Hypothetically, if those 30K seats were rearranged in a nice, trackless facility we wouldn't be complaining much about its capacity. Just building toward the future.

[NTPhiKap99]

Losing has gotten us nowhere. Lack of alumni connection has gotten us nowhere. Hypothetically, if those 30K seats were rearranged in a nice, trackless facility we wouldn't be complaining much about its capacity. Just building toward the future.

That’s the biggest issue. Fouts isn’t the reason we are where we are right now. It’s the lack of money and support for the program over the past 100 years. We need some success and support before we can even imagine filling a 40k plus stadium regardless of who we are playing. Lets build what we can and then prove to the university and the nation we need and deserve more.

[UNTflyer]

Let's switch gears and point to the economics of the number of seats.

It has been suggested that we must build to meet future demand. No way!

I want the stadium to always be a sell out. And I want the school to be able to charge $275 for season tickets, $50 for single game tickets.

[NTPhiKap99]

Let's switch gears and point to the economics of the number of seats.

It has been suggested that we must build to meet future demand. No way!

I want the stadium to always be a sell out. And I want the school to be able to charge $275 for season tickets, $50 for single game tickets.

That’s my theory I don’t look forward to paying the extra money but I do look forward to the benefits what will come from having extra money in the program.